State officials report Massachusetts will start joining the rest of the country late next summer with a program that will renumber highway exits from the current sequential system to one based on mileage.
The readjustment will start in the western part of the state and head east, until finally there are no more exits to renumber. The current exit numbers will then stay up alongside the old ones for at least two years.
The federal government, which wants the exit numbers changed, will pick up 90% of the cost. The state had initially planned to start the renumbering in 2015.
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Small nitpick: The DC Beltway
By DTP
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 9:25am
Small nitpick: The DC Beltway is 495, not 395. And the eastern half of it also carries 95, after it was cancelled through the District.
It will always be 128 to me. Also, I refer to
By MC Slim JB
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 8:05am
The Seaport as "down by Anthony's Pier 4", the North End as "the Irish neighborhood", and the South End as "Roxbury". Call me old-fashioned!
now I know I am officially old.
By cat
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 5:40pm
It will always be 128 to me.
We don't accept change well. After more than 20 years; folks still think Rte 1 runs thru the City...rather than around it.
Well, it does run through the
By Rob
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 6:03pm
Well, it does run through the City - just not the same way it used to.
I don't remember the numbers
By anon
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 4:21pm
I don't remember the numbers at all - I just say "the Medford Square exit" or "the Leverett Connector exit".
In Troy Michigan, exit 69 off
By Beaver tail
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 3:11pm
In Troy Michigan, exit 69 off I-75 is Big Beaver Rd.
That couldn't happen in Massachusetts. Just because.
I-75 is special like this
By JJ
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 6:35pm
Despite having lived in that area for a long time, it wasn't until recently that I learned of the exit number. Know of the road, of course.
If you head south on I-75 into Kentucky, you can see signage for Big Bone Lick, which is conveniently located (you can't make this up) near Beaverlick.
Exit 69
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 9:43pm
The Warren Toll Gantry on the MassPike is at 69.78 miles. Not an exit, though.
New numbers (assuming that rounding matters):
Exit 1 - Stockbridge will now be Exit 3
Lee Service Plaza - Exit 9
Exit 2 - Lee ... Exit 11
Blandford Service Plaza - Exit 29
Exit 3 - Westfield ... Exit 40
Exit 4 - West Springfield - Exit 46
Exit 5 - Chicopee - Exit 49
Exit 6 - I-291 - Exit 51
Exit 7 - Ludlow - Exit 55
Exit 8 - Palmer - Exit 63
Exit 9 - Sturbridge I-84 - Exit 78
Exit 10 - I-290/I-395 - Exit 90
Exit 10A - Millbury - Exit 94
Exit 11 - Millbury - Exit 96
Exit 11A - I-495 - Exit 104
Exit 12 - Framham Southborough - Exit 111
Exit 13 - Natick Framham - Exit 117
Exit 14 - Weston I-95 - Exit 123A
Exit 15A/B - I-95 and US 30 - Exit 123B/123C
Etcetera.
Logan Armpit will be Exit 137
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Turnpike
No more
By Marco
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 3:31pm
Universal Exit 37 I guess. Always knew no matter what N_S road you were on that 37 meant you were in Woburn and could connect to the OTHER major interstate. Now it'll be different on each road.
Consider my mind melted.
Exit 25 = Route 128 exit scheme
By Cleary Squared
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 9:46am
When Route 128 was considered the main highway in Boston, all exits on other highways leading to Route 128 were numbered with Exit 25 as the main exit. Three highways - MA 3 to Cape Cod, MA 24 to Rhode Island, and US 3 to New Hampshire - used that scheme until the late 1970s/early 1980s.
US 3 still uses the Exit 25 = Route 128 scheme today, with exits increasing northbound. MA 3 and MA 24 were peculiar in that their exit numbers increased, rather than decreased, southbound from Route 128; then they changed to the current scheme of exits increasing northbound (MA 3 from Sagamore, MA 24 from the state line at Fall River).
All of Route 128 had exits from 9 in Gloucester to 69 in Braintree (then the Southeast Expressway/Pilgrim's Highway split, now I-93/MA 3) but had those exits changed wholesale in the mid-1980s when I-95 was rerouted onto Route 128 from Canton to Peabody; the I-95 exits superseded the Route 128 exits. I-93 found the same fate - they were renumbered once I-93 was extended southward to Canton. The only exits that weren't touched are from Gloucester to Peabody (exits 9 through 28).
Not only that
By Jethro
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 5:00pm
As far as I can tell, it was exit 37 on 128 before renumbering as well.
BUT, it looks like, if they fudge the rounding a little bit, it could be exit 28 (or 29) on both roads
Just an aside
By ElizaLeila
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 4:09pm
I suspect this will go better than the renumbering that was done in the 70's. I'm pretty certain that's when it was, but I don't remember if it was just on 128/95 or on 93 as well. I just recall cousins from the western part of the state commenting on it when they came for the annual family Christmas get together.
Anyone else remember that effort?
That renumbering was actually done
By roadman
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 4:33pm
in 1985 and 1986, and replaced the original Route 128 exit numbers between Braintree and Peabody with appropriate numbers for I-95 and I-93.
As memory serves, there wasn't and major confusion about the change after the first couple of weeks, especially as signs indicating the old exit numbers were posted.
Got it
By ElizaLeila
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 4:38pm
Thanks!
It was an issue for people who didn't drive in the area that often and were working off of directions from previous years. That's all.
(duplicate comment)
By roadman
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 4:35pm
(duplicate comment)
Wasn't that the (Exit) "25 is
By anon_wd
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 12:33am
Wasn't that the (Exit) "25 is 128" idea?
Finally!
By ScottB
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 4:25pm
This is pretty much how the entire rest of the country, outside the Northeast, numbers exits today. It is exceedingly helpful to be able to tell, at a glance, about how far it is to your exit -- even without GPS. If you're at Exit 40 and plan to get off at Exit 69 ;) then you know you've got about 30 miles to go.
On the Pike, the next exit could be in a mile or it could be in 30 miles. Numbering sequentially isn't a helpful system for drivers who aren't familiar with an area.
And despite all the hue and cry, after a couple of years (and there will be "Old Exit XX" signs) even the locals will be used to the new numbers.
Exit 128?!
By Ahab
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 4:38pm
The fact that Exit 17 off the Pike (Newton/Watertown) will now be Exit 128 is sure to cause endless confusion for new-to-towners. Nice work.
No.
By Rob
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 11:21am
No.
"New-to-towners" don't have unresolved issues about 128. They'll do better than you.
Exit 128
By Pablo
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 11:45am
Be of good cheer, on Route 2 exit 128 will be for I-95.
Solves one other problem too
By Gary C
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 10:09am
On the rare occasion when a new exit is added, we don't have exit 14A that is five miles up the road from Exit 14B.
Saves money too!
By cybah
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 10:10pm
It saves money too in the long run. When you add a new exit, you just make a sign for the mile marker, vs trying to 'fix' numbering every decade
That's fine
By Kaz
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 7:23pm
It's still 128 though, right?
Always!
By mg
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 9:12pm
.
It’s about time!!
By MassMikMouse
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 8:12pm
Most every other state uses this system. And, shockingly, it makes SENSE!
Slippery Slope
By HRyan
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 9:46pm
Next thing you know, our major thoroughfares will be able to accommodate box trucks.
Don't be ridiculous
By Don't Panic
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 2:00am
Why would you want box trucks on the Emerald Necklace? Next thing you know we'd be driving on driveways and parking on parkways. Somethings make too much sense to change.
This is DUMB.
By u-hub-fan
Tue, 11/19/2019 - 10:55pm
Yes, it's a standard. It's a DUMB standard.
As of now, there are two frames of reference: if you want miles, there are mile markers every 2/10ths of a mile. The other frame of reference is the number of exits before yours.
I would much rather know I'm taking the third exit than some unknown number of miles before that exit. The number of miles means nothing to me, and is hard to keep track of. The number of exits is very easy. (4 being easier to keep track of, than say, 37) In doing this, they are reducing two ways of keeping track of your location down to one.
Talk about solving a problem you don't have.
(And do NOT get me started on that awful replacement for Highway Gothic...)
Amazing
By perruptor
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 4:52am
This is the most completely ass-backward way of looking at the question of "how far to the exit" that I can imagine.
Really? You'd rather know how many arbitrarily-spaced features will pass than exactly how many miles are left? 4 is not easier to keep track of than 37, if #s 2 and 3 are right on top of each other, or share an off-ramp. Miss one, and you're likely to be stuck driving to the next one, however far down the road it is, then driving back. If you know your exit is 37, and you're at Exit 25, you can relax for 10 miles. I have to believe you like the current system because you're familiar with all the routes you use, so you don't actually use the exit-number relationships at all.
Roadside mile markers are no use in determining how far to your exit, unless you know what mile the exit is at. You can find that out in various ways, but the only convenient and safe way to do that while you're driving is if the exit number is the mile number.
This is one of the stupidest
By Scratchie
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 8:17am
This is one of the stupidest arguments I've ever encountered and I would have been extremely disappointed if it hadn't turned up in the comments here.
Thanks for not letting me down.
(PS: It's not "unknown". It's the number of miles between where you are and the exit number. There are signs that tell you the mileage where you are every 1/10 of a mile.)
You'll be OK
By ElizaLeila
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 10:29am
Humans are pretty adaptable. You'll get used to it, grumbling all the way of course. But you won't have any choice.
Talk about solving a problem
By Rob
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 11:34am
Yeah!
After all - when you get on the Pike, you stop at the toll booth and ask the friendly clerk what exit you'll need for whatever your destination. He'll tell you the exit number, how far it is, how much the toll will be, point it out on the little oaktag toll ticket where it says all of that, AND smile & say "have a nice day"
Don't forget to check the air in your whitewall tires before setting out and drain the water from your car radiator at night (it's getting down close to freezing in the hills these nights).
Happy Motoring!
+1
By Scratchie
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 2:13pm
For "oaktag".
Oh, and while you're at it
By roadman
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 10:42pm
Say 'Hi" to the cashier at the First National for me the next time you stop in to buy groceries.
(And do NOT get me started on
By roadman
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 10:57pm
Not the same. Although FHWA did issue an Interim Approval allowing states to use Clearview, which was later rescinded and then reinstated (thanks to the Texas Congressional delegation), the Federal Government has never mandated that states switch from Highway Gothic to Clearview for highway signs.
And to put your mind at ease, the current Massachusetts Amendments to the MUTCD expressly forbid the use of alternative fonts such as Clearview on highway signs in this state.
I'd prefer Comic Sans myself
By Rob
Thu, 11/21/2019 - 4:51am
I'd prefer Comic Sans myself
I'm cool with it. It'll last
By anon
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 4:22pm
I'm cool with it. It'll last us until we switch to metric.
So, how do they handle multiple exits at once (A/B/C?) or non-whole mileage (e.g. exits 1/4 mile apart)?
Letter suffixes. An exit at
By DTP
Thu, 11/21/2019 - 8:57am
Letter suffixes. An exit at mile 10.00 and another at mile 10.25 would be numbered 10A and 10B.
A web site for the exit renumbering project
By roadman
Wed, 11/20/2019 - 11:26pm
is now up and running
http://www.newmassexits.com/
all this drama for exit
By anon
Thu, 11/21/2019 - 8:12am
all this drama for exit numbers.... am I the only one who uses the OTHER information on the sign (crossroad names?)
What would the Pilgrims do?
By anon
Thu, 11/21/2019 - 2:28pm
What would the Pilgrims do?
Late comment prior to divorce
By Gary C
Mon, 11/25/2019 - 2:59pm
I know this post was 6 days ago, but I just mentioned the upcoming exit changes to my wife and said I thought it was a good idea. She lost it and after about 10 minutes of my trying to explain why I thought it was fine, she just told me to stop talking about it because it was making her furious.
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