By adamg on Tue., 8/18/2020 - 10:22 am
Cambridge Police report that around 9:40 a.m., "there was a fatal motor vehicle crash involving a tractor-trailer and bicyclist" on Massachusetts Avenue at Dunster Street. Police are now investigating.
Police say the bicyclist, a man in his 50s, was pronounced dead at the scene. The truck driver remained at the scene, police say.
Last September, a pedestrian died while crossing the street near the T stop.
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Pedestrianize Harvard Square.
By Kinopio
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 10:33am
Pedestrianize Harvard Square. Only those on foot and bike should be allowed. Motor vehicles, especially large trucks, do not belong in areas with high levels of pedestrians. This is done in cities all over the world so why not here? How many more people must be brutally killed before we stop prioritizing vehicles over people?
The priority in Harvard Sq.
By anon
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 10:39am
The priority in Harvard Sq. seems to be eliminate all local business and replace them with bank branches and fast food chains. You think anyone in charge in Cambridge gives a damn about pedestrians in Harvard Sq.? Elected officials have been destroying neighborhoods in Cambridge for decades now.
"Elected Officials" of Cambridge
By Pete X
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 12:38pm
One of the problems in Cambridge is that elected officials aren't really in charge. The city manager is in charge, subject to the hiring of the council. In practice this means the city manager makes the decisions and the council are left acting much like everybody else in the city:complaining about the banks and fast food chains and occasionally holding hearings but never really able to take concrete action to effect change. You'll find almost all of the council at least claims to support and some of them actively push for better protections for pedestrians and cyclists, but their effectiveness is limited. The city manager tends to openly ignore council requests he disagrees with, yet the council keeps reupping his contract.
Long way of saying, we need to get rid of the city manager system and just have an elected mayor and council like most other cities.
I'm fine with a city council and separate manager
By anon
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 1:45pm
so long as the manager does what the council says.
Otherwise, it's a way for politicians to say one thing and do another, with deniability of "gosh darn it, this manager who reports to us didn't do what we said, what can ya do."
Well
By Pete X
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 11:41am
You've put the nail on the head of the problem right there.
Pedestrianize! Excellent
By Kelstos
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 10:39am
Pedestrianize is immediately appealing -- to me, atleast -- because it sounds like a kind of fancy pastry made from leftover pasta. And the term is far more friendly than "Ban Autos!" a policy declaration which most people in the US would deem a threat to their civil rights.
But YES, agreed! Automotive vehicles have no place in Harvard Square.
In fact, most dense urban cores should ban autos.
Why can we not learn from what they've done in several European cities?
Why can we not learn?
And we all thought Harvard was for ....
By Lee
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 1:40pm
... smart people.
I guess until we learn something from the School of Hard Knocks, pedestrians, cyclists and etc will continue to be knocked down in Harvard Square.
O'Connell Street Dublin, Times Square in NYC
By John Costello
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 11:02am
Oxford Street London, downtown Budapest, Market Street San Francisco, Michigan Avenue in Chicago.
Those are cities all over the world.
All high pedestrian areas, all have high vehicle traffic, some like Harvard Square and Times Square have restrictions to plan for the inevitable mistakes of participants in the human stew.
If you want to turn Cambridge into Ecotpoia get off your arse and run for office but your again extremism for your point of view is unproductive owing to your sole position that everyone should be on two feet or two wheels.
Wow
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 1:18pm
Man who spends all his time in a car complains that he might have to get out of it and walk through an area laid out 300 years before cars mattered.
The horrors.
When was the last time you went to/through Harvard Square?
When was the last time you were in London? Was it after the congestion charging scheme cut down the traffic in the locations you noted?
Having been up and down
By Milwaukee Mike
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 4:02pm
Having been up and down Oxford Street in London within the last couple of years, and O'Connell Street in Dublin for that matter, I can assure you that both were still jam-packed with traffic. Oxford Street, in particular, left me disgusted. Hordes of shoppers from abroad (enough to push you off the sidewalk or up against a building) mobbing the high-end department stores for $500 track pants while buses and black London taxis sit in gridlock, idling and pumping out exhaust. Loud, dirty, and obnoxious. Perhaps that place should go pedestrians-only. It took multiple G&Ts to wash the taste of that street out of my mouth--thank God London has that part figured out.
Sure thing...
By John Costello
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 5:21pm
I spent $1,470 on the T last year, while working from home 3 days a week, but I guess I spent all my time in that car.....
I don't go to Harvard Square anymore because it is full of banks, CVS locations, clothing stores owned by Republicans, and people who take the 96 who scream and yell a lot without knowing what they are talking about.
No tractor trailers allowed in Times Square.
By Lee
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 1:42pm
Not for a long time. I guess you don’t get out much.
I Don't Get Out Much?
By John Costello
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 5:04pm
I do, I live in Massachusetts, not New York.
You on the other hand see to fail to realize I said vehicles, not trucks.
Here is the Bunker Hill Community College reading comprehension test. See how you do.
https://www.bhcc.edu/cptpractice/readingcomprehens...
Do you know a lot about Times Square? I know it is full of bright lights and people mindlessly staring up at bright lights, or is it you like people dressed up in costumes of all your favorite comic book characters? That's it, isn't it? Bright lights and comic book characters. You are special.
Looks like you get out a bit too much.
By Lee
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 5:15pm
Like out of your mind.
The Bunker Hill CC set has more dignity and better reading skills than you, Mighty Great World Traveler.
What does that have to do with tractor trailers
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 12:36pm
Trucks are responsible for most of the crashes.
Have. Should.
By u-hub-fan
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 1:46pm
Two different things.
Market Street in SF was
By Ian Reynolds
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 2:24pm
Market Street in SF was permanently closed to private vehicle traffic earlier this year. Even our peer cities in the US are figuring this stuff out.
Michigan Avenue? Really? You
By Scratchie
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 4:05pm
Michigan Avenue? Really? You want to compare an extra-wide, straight-as-an-arrow street with wide sidewalks to anything in Boston or Cambridge?
Michigan Ave is not pedestrianized
By Ari O
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 8:17pm
It serves far more people by bus than car, of course (as does Lake Shore Drive) but the sidewalks are far too narrow. It should be buses only with wider sidewalks, and maybe a couple of lanes of traffic in one direction.
CDOT/IDOT are as backwards as BTD/MassDOT, alas.
Politicians can't do anything
By anon
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 8:24pm
Politicians can't do anything. They're not rich. It's whoever owns the land and structures in Harvard Square who decide. They run the show. And if you want to know who They are, simply pick an address, get the deed reference from the assessor's website, go to Middlesex South Registry of Deeds website and type in the book and page of deed. Go from there. If the owner is an entity which more than likely it is, then you go to MA Corporations Division website to look it up to see who the individuals are. And there is your answer.
Easy to usurp land for you
By myname
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 12:37pm
Easy to usurp land for you needs, but where do the cars and busses go?
Is your plan to make JKF, Mass Ave, Cambridge St., and Harvard all dead ends?
When you look at DTX as a pedestrian model, it's not great. Yes, tourists can walk around and take photos, sit and relax, but the businesses suffer tremendously.
What?
By DrewD
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 12:59pm
You made a good point about the difficulty of redirecting traffic and then you said this.
The businesses suffer tremendously? In DTX? Because of people... walking instead of driving? Have you not been there since the 80's?
I'm there all the time. Have
By myname
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 2:54pm
I'm there all the time. Have you not noticed the store closings and vacancies? Long gone are button shop, watch dr, camera store, and what remains is empty storefronts, corp food, cheesy corp flagship stores, and banks that keep their location for advertising.
Again, if you want to just hang out and not buy anything other than some food, it's great for people. It just sucks for retail. The mom and pop shops of Harvard Square can't afford to lose customers that want to drive.
Windsor Button was a
By lisar
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 3:13pm
Windsor Button was a profitable business that got kicked out by a greedy landlord who wanted to open something more trendy. Their storefront sat empty for 5+ years because the landlord had no real plan.
Are you saying that failing
By JJ3
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 3:18pm
Are you saying that failing DTX businesses would be saved if... cars could drive more closely past them? Or if current pedestrian space was reallocated to something like 25 parking spaces?
I'm saying that DTX is the
By myname
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 4:56pm
I'm saying that DTX is the corp wasteland that is today because of people that said things like, "these businesses will do fine if they don't have the customers that insist on driving." Once you take that away, there's no putting it back. You can't recreate these historic shops after they go belly up.
RENT INCREASES, not lack of
By anon
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 7:37pm
RENT INCREASES, not lack of parking, killed small and family businesses in DTX. There's plenty of parking around Downtown Boston. There isn't plenty of reasonable rent.
to be fair
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 12:45pm
Rent increases because of the housing crisis. If the businesses were very profitable then they should be able to keep up. However, it isn't that easy to create housing in Boston, so the place stays empty.
These shops are all ground level. Who is renting the upper floors? How much do they pay?
Boston is full of 20 to 50 year old offices that can't attract modern business. These spaces aren't zoned for living though. I wonder what the process would be? It would be a great area for micro apartments.
How far back are you going, old-timer?
By lbb
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 8:38am
There was NEVER room for sufficient nearby parking to provide a base for those businesses. People took public transit to get there.
There were lots you can hand
By myname
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 2:09pm
There were lots you can hand someone some cash and park in then get in and out. Before they put the haymarket garage in many people drove to haymarket.
And I know it's hard to imagine, but it wasn't that long ago you could actually park on the street!
Got numbers?
By lbb
Thu, 08/20/2020 - 8:52am
I'm adding up the number of parking spaces in all the streets around dtx, if every single one were open to parking, and I'm not so sure they'd make the difference. Where do your numbers come from, since you're very sure that this would fix the problem?
It ain't rocket science
By Scratchie
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 4:06pm
Just to echo prior comments, the lack of businesses in DTX has nothing to do with automobile access. I worked down there in the late 80s/early 90s (when cars were banned) and DTX was packed and vibrant every day.
As with Harvard Square, the problem has much more to do with landlords who would rather let their businesses sit empty (and write off the lost rent at inflated "market" prices) than rent them out at "below-market" rates, which would depress the paper values of all their properties.
It ain't rocket science.
Car traffic being banned
By myname
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 5:05pm
Car traffic being banned around DTX didn't just happen overnight. It's been chipped away at for years. Initially the police didn't care if you wanted to drive down Washington to pick up something at a store--it was tolerated. Same with Winter to Sumner. And not long ago you could still drive up Franklin to Broomfield and then when the tower went up Franklin was reserved to go to the tower only. THEN, no so coincidentally a lot of shops on Broomfield closed.
Commercial real estate landlords holding out for big corp clients is nothing new. Frankly they know these mom and pop stores are going to starve and they'd rather go fishing for a bigger tenant than sit idle and watch their tenants starve.
So basically, you're saying
By Scratchie
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 5:22pm
So basically, you're saying that the landlords are doing their mom & pop tenants a favor by kicking them out! OK, got it. You sound smart.
No, I'm just saying your
By myname
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 8:46pm
No, I'm just saying your theory that these business will do better with less customers after they block off vehicle access to their shops is nuts.
It's not a "theory", Einstein
By Scratchie
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 8:30am
It's not a "theory", Einstein. I worked in that neighborhood for years, long after traffic was already blocked off, and the businesses were doing fine. If you think that the small number of assholes who were willing to break the law and drive through the pedestrian zone were crucial to keeping those businesses afloat, you're delusional.
Again, you act like traffic
By myname
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 2:12pm
Again, you act like traffic stopped on a particular day. It didn't. Just in the last couple weeks they removed even more public parking and ripped out car lanes.
If you like sucking from the corp teet coffee stores then DTX is the place for you--just stay there please and don't mess with Harvard Square!
Again, you act like traffic
By Scratchie
Thu, 08/20/2020 - 12:15pm
No, I'm acting like traffic was almost entirely stopped 30 years ago when I worked there, and the business district was thriving.
If you don't like corporate retail stores, I have some bad news for you about Harvard Square.
"after they block off vehicle access to their shops"
By lbb
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 8:40am
You keep saying this as if "vehicle access" without parking means something.
For call ahead and pickups,
By myname
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 2:12pm
For call ahead and pickups, yes it does. I suppose if you don't even own a car you wouldn't know that though.
I do own a car
By lbb
Thu, 08/20/2020 - 8:53am
I also know that "call ahead and pickups" won't scale the way you think. Again...show your work.
not that many people in cars
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 12:50pm
You seem to forget that over the same period that the streets closed, malls were built in the suburbs and online shopping grew. Street parking is not the only reason people don't shop downtown. DTX will have more customers when it gets more residents.
That started happening 20
By anon
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 3:59pm
That started happening 20 years ago and that had nothing to do w/ cars... it had to do w/ the city ignoring DTX whilst building up the Seaport.
And your point?
By Neal
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 5:40pm
Those businesses were on Temple Place and Bromfield Street, both streets open to automotive traffic. You're not really helping your argument at all.
Have you ever been there and
By myname
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 8:49pm
Have you ever been there and taken note of the traffic pattern? Bromfield is inaccessable except if you circle down school and over and up--can't even get to where the camera shop was. Temple is the same, loops you back out to Tremont. Bunch of streets to nowhere that you get stuck behind buses and avoid like the plague.
I guess you don't drive?
Your argument
By portish
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 9:40am
...is so bizarre. A button shop? A camera store? Watch repair? Next you're going to tell me about that millinery that went under because cars couldn't drive up to it. I live in the far suburbs now, and when I have to go to DTX a few times a year I either park under the common or take the T. Even if I could drive down Washington Street I wouldn't, for the same reasons I don't drive down Newbury Street. I think you're in pretty far over head on this argument.
Nah, I just had no idea you
By myname
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 2:13pm
Nah, I just had no idea you all wanted such corp bootlicking stores.
I like to shop independant places.
You better check yourself for ticks
By Scratchie
Wed, 08/19/2020 - 3:30pm
... after spending so much time beating up that strawman.
You gotta be consistent
By Ari O
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 8:18pm
Harvard Square is failing despite being all cars.
DTX is failing because there aren't any cars.
Maybe cars have nothing to do with it?
It's not that hard: small
By myname
Tue, 08/18/2020 - 8:51pm
It's not that hard: small businesses can't afford to loose customers. When you wall off street traffic, you loose customers.
DTX is all corporate stores because they are essentially billboards for brands. Harvard Sq. is struggling as is, will become a corp wasteland if they loose car traffic.
Seems like because you can't afford a car you're angry at the people that drive?
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