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Developers propose apartments, condos in two buildings on Dorchester Avenue across from St. Mark
By adamg on Fri, 10/02/2020 - 1:42pm
Rendering of apartment building by Choo & Co.
Developers Patrick Mahoney, Michael Moore, Seamus Moore and Patrick Costello this week proposed a four-story apartment building with 25 units and a separate four-story building with 11 condos on Dorchester Avenue on either side of King Street.
The apartment building, at 1700 Dorchester Ave., would replace an existing commercial building and parking lot and would have 12 parking spaces and ground-floor retail space, according to their plans, filed with the BPDA. The condo building at 1710 Dorchester Ave., would replace a parking lot and would have 8 parking spaces.
Three of the apartments would be rented as affordable; two of the condos would be sold that way.
The developers hope to begin work on the $9.2-million project this spring.
1700-1710 small-project review application (3.6M PDF).
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This will be huge.
I don't really think it blocks the view of anything much. But four stories is much taller than anything around there. That property hasn't seemed much occupied since I moved to this neighborhood 13 years ago. It seems like a good thing.
Pre-Arson Days
There was a building as big as this on the corner of Lydon Way and Dot. Ave. Got very burny in the 70's.
I agree 3 stories might be
I agree 3 stories might be more palettable, but that 4th story looks like it's set back from the street, which will help. Little by little all of Dot Ave should be converted to housing over retail/commercial space. (Whispers: and we should get one of those dedicated bus lanes)
No four is ok
There is so many under utilized commercial properties on Dot Ave. We need more apartments. My only criticism is that there is only one studio. Dorchester is full of single adults in multiple bedroom units that used to have families. We need to create housing that is affordable with out subsidies. Dorchester has lower square foot prices but no studios.
Your mouth to god's ears
Good luck getting our city councilors and self-appointed community spokespeople to stop calling for more "family-sized" units, as if we don't have a neighborhood full of those units that are just filled by people who would prefer 1-beds and studios.
Dot Ave needs more of this
This is exactly what Dot Ave needs to make it feel like more of a neighborhood Main Street. All the commercial space is aging and often not kept up because not enough people live on the actual street, but instead up side streets in neighborhoods that are insular. More residential units above new commercial spaces will make the corridor more vibrant. This should be a model for the whole Dot Ave corridor. Everything is a balance so you need a little parking but also need things in the area that people want to walk to beyond the train. People can walk to Red Line or take buses. But first floor commercial space with ready made customers and neighbors living upstairs in new condos/apts will help improve Dot Ave
Drop the parking!
1813 Dot Ave is planning no parking to maximize housing.
These 2 lots are arguably closer to Shawmut which is a stop closer to the city, they should drop all the parking and add more housing.
The mural on the abutting property needs to be preserved & accessible too!
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First floor apartments?
Go to Washington and Bodein st. New construction apartment building there and it has a few apartments on the first floor. They have a big window in the front that they can never pull the shades open, much less get fresh air.
One must bear in mind, however, that
One must bear in mind, however, that there are plenty of city dwellers who work at jobs outside the city, and need their cars to drive to and from work every day, so parking is necessary. More garage space should be available to people, either to rent by the month, or for purchasing outright, at cheap prices.
or just move to where they work
If you need to park your car off the street then you can't live on Dorchester Avenue. Where you move is a choice. There are plenty of places in the city where parking is easy.
Interesting
About half the cost per unit of that nonprofit-proposed building in grove hall, even though land is a whole lot more expensive.
The afordability ratios
The afordability ratios should be at least 50%. Development is good but not at the expense of a community.
This kind of demand only helps drive up prices
The developers -- more importantly, their financing -- would walk away rather than build half the project at a loss. Meanwhile the nearby 3-decker apartment-condos get bid up higher and higher. This is the crisis we've been in. We need production, not endless "community" process that just results in more lotteries.
Sure!
Sell me something that costs you $100 to make for $20, and don’t you dare charge anyone else more to make up for what you lost!
A little too much
Where are the developers from ?
More of this needed
Residential above new commercial on a main drag like Dot Ave is what is needed to make this space more vibrant. So many one or two story strip buildings on Dot Ave that could house more with residential above and provide more life to what should be a busy commercial district. Seems like it strikes a balance on parking versus walk to T and buses.
Good Looking Proposal
Smart proposal putting a rental and ownership opportunity within one project. Allows for both affordable rental and sale options in an ever expensive market.
Nice to see developers getting creative here and trying to accommodate both sides of the coin.