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New Boston streets czar explains why sanders and salters were out in force last night

Just before 6 p.m. yesterday, Ari Ofsevit posed a question on Twitter:

If anyone can explain why @BostonPWD is salting the roads when it's 34 and raining and it's all going to get washed away, let me know.

He added:

Salting during rain lasts … minutes.

There is harm, environmentally and financially, for exactly zero benefit.

If the forecast was that the temperature would soon drop, fine, but the forecast is for steady-or-rising temperatures.

This is a waste of resources.

Some Bostonians (Ed. note: Raises hand) answered that while it might be raining in some parts of Boston, other parts, such as Roslindale, had sleet on the ground at the time. This morning, Jascha Franklin-Hodge, Boston's incoming chief of streets, joined the conversation:

With the caveat that I still have a lot to learn about snow ops, here’s a quick thread with what I know about @BostonPWD’s approach.

Storms like yesterday’s are tricky to plan for. A few degrees is the difference between a nothingburger and needing a significant response.

We subscribe to several precision forecasts and use them (+NWS) before and during a storm. They often disagree on details.

Temp, precipitation (type, intensity, duration), wind, all matter in terms of road conditions, & those factors can vary between neighborhoods.

As you see from other replies, yesterday’s storm wasn’t the same in every part of the city. Where I live in JP, we had some slushy accumulation on the pavement by early evening, even though it stayed rain in some places.

The goal is to keep roads safe without overdoing it, but it’s not an exact science. It’s complicated by the need to activate staff and contractors in anticipation of what’s going to happen, not after it’s already on the ground.

All things being equal we’re more likely to do too much rather than too little. The consequences of under responding can be deadly, so we'd rather overshoot a bit in a borderline situation.

The team is constantly evaluating on-the-ground conditions and the forecast, and does a lot of adapting on the fly. We also regularly test out new forecasting tools as they become available.

Even with @BostonPWD’s decades of accumulated wisdom on snow response, it’s always going to be a balancing act. Safety is the first priority, but we are always learning and working to refine our approach to better match each situation.

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Many years ago (20 years ago?) there was a documentary on Boston city hall (not the recent one) and it followed Menino around for a day in the winter. A snow storm was possible and Menino was debating if he should cancel school the following day.

In the end he decided to cancel school and there was no snow overnight. He looked like the kindhearted dope which was his trademark.

I'm trying to remember the show as I'd like to rewatch it.

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My driveway was just shy of dangerous to walk on when I went to my car around 4 PM yesterday. I could feel myself slipping on occasion. But as soon as I got to the CVS around the corner, everything was fine. When I got home from a few other errands, the driveway was just wet again.

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If it were 54 F and raining, salt would make zero sense. But 34 F -- you're just barely over the freezing point. It could easily drop 2 degrees in a matter of minutes.

I vote with the city officials on this one.

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A seemingly straight and good-faith answer like this is too rare In political life. Kudos to Chief of Streets for at least owning the decision.

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The guy who posted the question also posted/relied on a screenshot of the Hanscom AFB weather conditions, which is what, 15 miles away?

Considering that the weather around here can be different from block to block at times, this question struck me as especially dumb.

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I was on a call with someone in Arlington a few days ago. It was kind of lightly sleeting off and on here. No accumulation. At their place, I could see white fluffy snow piling up, and they were talking about people being out playing in it.

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