The meeting wasn't set up to have people automatically muted upon entry, and zoombombers were pouring in too quickly for individual muting to keep up with.
Any public body that hasn’t figured out how to mute spectators two years into the pandemic should probably not be voting on anything of substance. That’s embarrassing.
This seems like a problem that could easily be solved by technology. For example, everyone could be muted by default, and only given permission to unmute when it's their turn to speak.
There's really no difference between the two, as far as "public meeting laws". They offer the same services as each other.
The only big difference between GoToMeeting and GoToWebinar is the amount of users that can be connected at a time. GoToWebinar is over 1000. GoToMeeting is limited to 200 or something like that (I think GTM Pro can do a bit more).
But generally the controls are the same. GTW is slightly more geared for 'lecture style' meetings (one presenter who will do most of the talking) vs community style (where everyone is equal). And has breakout rooms and a Q&A board. (these aren't as obvious to use in GTM)
I think the issue with these meetings is exactly what others have said. You need to mute people on entry. You also need to have questions go into the Q&A board so they can be filtered out. It also would help filter 'barge in' attendees (people who hammer to get in) to put them in a waiting room and admit them one at a time. (and boot if they start to spam)
I don't blame politicians really. As an IT support person, if I had a dollar for every time I've been asked to go 'setup a meeting' and 'test functionality' before some large company meeting, I'd be rich. Execs at big companies cannot be bothered to learn how to use it, especially since they use it the most... I can't expect pol's to know either.
The wingnut crew is gearing up to be disruptive again tonight, and consoling eachother over how “terribly” Dianna was treated last night. The cognitive dissonance is astounding, it borders on medical.
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2 years in
By anon
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 11:58am
And they haven’t figured out how to mute someone?
Trying to do it one at a time is futile
By mg
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 1:14pm
The meeting wasn't set up to have people automatically muted upon entry, and zoombombers were pouring in too quickly for individual muting to keep up with.
Can't the mods change this setting after the meeting starts?
By Ron Newman
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 2:39pm
I am unfamiliar with how GoToMeeting works, but it would surprise me if this was not possible.
solution
By Fenway Crank
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 11:59am
mute all participants upon entry
easy click
It’s called mute.
By anon
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 12:04pm
Any public body that hasn’t figured out how to mute spectators two years into the pandemic should probably not be voting on anything of substance. That’s embarrassing.
This seems like a problem
By anon
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 12:08pm
This seems like a problem that could easily be solved by technology. For example, everyone could be muted by default, and only given permission to unmute when it's their turn to speak.
Which angy screaming woman from....
By brianjdamico
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 12:09pm
oh, nevermind. It's nice of her to take time out of her busy schedule of yelling at landscapers for not speaking to each other in English.
Not Zoom
By Ron Newman
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 12:40pm
I was not there, but I've been told that the city used GoToMeeting. They should have used GoToWebinar.
Just speculating
By tachometer
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 2:03pm
But a hosted webinar may not meet requirements of open meeting laws.
I've gone to many government webinar meetings in the past
By Ron Newman
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 2:38pm
especially for the Green Line Extension.
There's no difference
By cybah
Fri, 01/21/2022 - 8:49am
There's really no difference between the two, as far as "public meeting laws". They offer the same services as each other.
The only big difference between GoToMeeting and GoToWebinar is the amount of users that can be connected at a time. GoToWebinar is over 1000. GoToMeeting is limited to 200 or something like that (I think GTM Pro can do a bit more).
But generally the controls are the same. GTW is slightly more geared for 'lecture style' meetings (one presenter who will do most of the talking) vs community style (where everyone is equal). And has breakout rooms and a Q&A board. (these aren't as obvious to use in GTM)
I think the issue with these meetings is exactly what others have said. You need to mute people on entry. You also need to have questions go into the Q&A board so they can be filtered out. It also would help filter 'barge in' attendees (people who hammer to get in) to put them in a waiting room and admit them one at a time. (and boot if they start to spam)
I don't blame politicians really. As an IT support person, if I had a dollar for every time I've been asked to go 'setup a meeting' and 'test functionality' before some large company meeting, I'd be rich. Execs at big companies cannot be bothered to learn how to use it, especially since they use it the most... I can't expect pol's to know either.
Where's the helpful IT staff for this?
Did she not get the memo that
By Finn
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 12:54pm
Did she not get the memo that Orange CHEETUS himself is boosting boosters now? Frankenstein, meet Monster.
Trump is pro-vaccine and anti
By Refugee
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 1:38pm
Trump is pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine-mandate, based on his comments from a month ago.
Dirty Dianna
By Hardy Har Har
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 1:00pm
Crazier than a sh!thouse rat. Her weekly protests in Swampscott were appointment viewing.
So I guess the term "conservative Internet
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 1:27pm
personality" is just a synonym for "pig-ignorant, obnoxious, anti-democratic asshole."
Good to know.
I learned something today
By Waquiot
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 3:45pm
There's someone running for governor who makes Geoff Deihl look moderate.
They’re planning it again
By fredly
Thu, 01/20/2022 - 5:20pm
The wingnut crew is gearing up to be disruptive again tonight, and consoling eachother over how “terribly” Dianna was treated last night. The cognitive dissonance is astounding, it borders on medical.
An internet thug
By Daan
Fri, 01/21/2022 - 12:06am
Does she have the chutzpah to attend the meeting in public? Intimidation via internet.
Dianna Ploss?
By brianjdamico
Fri, 01/21/2022 - 9:25am
I don't think she has any issue showing up in person to be a horrible human being.
Sure she does
By Hardy Har Har
Fri, 01/21/2022 - 2:28pm
Here's Dianna paying the cost to be the Ploss at a recent Revere Human Rights Commission meeting (starts around 29:55).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MzCLasOsgA
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