By adamg on Fri., 4/15/2022 - 1:02 pm
WBZ reports it's still dead due to last year's angsty dissolution of the group that had run it over board members declining to come to grips with trans and Black inclusion issues.
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Dissolving an organization is irresponsible
By Ron Newman
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 4:00pm
if there are people willing and able to take it over.
Were there? Or were there
By George
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 5:25pm
Were there? Or were there just bomb throwers telling others what they should be doing?
circular firing squad
By Sock_Puppet
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 4:08pm
enjoys tremendous success
Who would have thought
By anon
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 4:17pm
That the one parade that welcomes gay cops and firefighters is the Saint Patrick's day parade.
It took a lot of doing.
By JayF
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 5:57pm
Well, for one thing, we rid ourselves of the old regime and took a stand that all are welcome. But we have a unique set of characteristics that make both our organization and parade unique which others don’t benefit from.
As much as I would like to see the Pride Parade return, nobody seems to be that interested or the timing isn’t right. It’s hard work organizing an event of that size and not everyone has the community support that the St. Patrick’s Day parade enjoys.
Hopefully someone will step forward and at least put something together, even if it’s just a static event in a public place. It may be square one but a necessary step in generating interest and support.
There will be a Dyke March
By Vicki
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 4:42pm
There will be a Dyke March this year, as noted in the WGBH article linked in another comment.
Last summer there was a low-key non-marching event on the Common organized by the people who usually organize the Boston Dyke March.
Parades are a dying tradition
By Refugee
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 7:10pm
Parades are a dying tradition. What people enjoy today are protests and counterprotests.
Protests
By anon
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 8:26pm
Your post may have been somewhat facetious, but allow me point out that the original "Pride" parades here back in the 70s were indeed protests. They were, in fact, referred to as "marches" and the gathering on the Common afterwards as a "rally". Talk about politically charged language. Older LGBT man that I am, I sometimes still slip into the old terminology and call them that, the way my grandmother used to refer to the T as "the streetcar". I recall one march here in the 70s when a contingent of people marched with paper bags on their heads with eyeholes cut out so they could see, carrying signs that stated their occupations. One of the signs I recall was "teacher". This was still when one could be fired from a teaching job for being gay. Honestly, when you've seen something as heavy as that, today's family-friendly, fluffy, self-congratulatory "parades" seem rather empty.
Hmmm
By ShamusJP
Sat, 04/16/2022 - 2:17am
I wonder why??
Providence
By MassMouse
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 10:38pm
As an ally, I’m going to the Providence event. Same train, different direction and way less drama.
Peace/out
"Ally"
By anon
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 11:59pm
As a queer person, I question terms like "ally" that are thrown around worn like badges. It's such an outdated blanket phrase that needs to be deconstructed here in 2022. Ally of what, exactly? The entire LGBTQIA+ community? Specific friends in the community? A crusader for all truth and justice? And the fact that one seeks to go to an event with less drama smacks of fairweatherness. Is one only an ally when the going is smooth?
Why are you going?
By lbb
Sat, 04/16/2022 - 8:34pm
Why are you going? What do you think Pride is all about?
Is it bad to be just a spectator?
By Ron Newman
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 6:20am
I'm not Chinese, but I go to the Lion Dance parade in Chinatown on (or around) Lunar New Year.
If the lion dance were about liberation...
By lbb
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 9:12am
...it might be, yes. Liberation isn't the only thing Pride is about, but it also isn't a spectator sport.
This will continue to happen
By Bostonperson
Fri, 04/15/2022 - 11:41pm
And age will be the divide.
Why Pride in the first place?
By Daan
Sat, 04/16/2022 - 11:00am
What is now NYC Pride was the Christopher Street Day Parade. It was very much an in your face, "we're here, we're queer, get used to it." The word pride comes in as a response to the SHAME that has always been part of suppression and oppression of gays, lesbians, etc.
In some places that shame has been largely diluted. At least in Boston. Far from gone, but at least diluted enough that even large corporations would get in on the parade.
I am not saddened that there is no parade this year. It has become an apolitical event that has no teeth. All sugar but no fiber. To me it's also mostly playtime. I've enjoyed my years of playtime of loud music, plenty of alcohol and general revelry. Heck, in my youth I was very much part of that aspect.
But I also remember that fundamentally what we call Gay Pride today was the annual demand that we will not be forgotten, ignored or treated as though we don't exist.
It's been about 2 generations since the Compton's Cafeteria riot and the Christopher Street rebellion. Yet there are plenty of people who want anyone who is refuses to wear the right clothes, call themselves by the right names, birth the right number of babies, etc. to just disappear. As long as they wage culture war there will be no shortage of community fighting back.
Maybe the best thing is for the Boston Pride Parade to die so that something may be reborn.
Appropriate given the confluence of major religious high holidays.
Particularly this year
By lbb
Sat, 04/16/2022 - 8:52pm
Anyone who's paying attention will have noticed the recent sharp rise in anti-LGBTQ legislation.. It is merely the latest round scapegoating of LGBTQ people and making us the target of a politically useful moral panic. From Phyllis Schlafley and Anita Bryant, through the election of George W. Bush, to today's "Don't say gay" laws, all happening in a country that wants us to believe that the Equality Act is unnecessary...we exist on the sufferance of the straight world and the second they decide to withdraw their tolerance, there we go.
The irony is that it's the older members of the community who have no excuse not to understand this. But some of them have achieved a measure of personal security through privilege that does not extend to the community at large. They are comfortable and they don't want to struggle any more and so they unilaterally declare the war won, or at least over. They want a party. They feel they've earned a party. And so Pride went from a radical protest to a more polite protest to a celebration of tenuous accomplishments (Look! Lesbian couples with babies in strollers! Look! Cops wearing rainbow buttons! Look! Major corporations want our money!) to a party where the guests of honor have become an afterthought.
This year in particular, I'm inclined to think that we would do better to not have any big Pride marches, or perhaps even small ones. We need to be sending a different message, showing ourselves as something other than those colorful people who put on a good show. This year, we would do better to focus the month of June on some hard truths and reality checks. And if it means that corporations and politicians and police departments don't get to rainbow-wash themselves and are instead required to actually do something to earn their "ally" tag, I am all in favor.
Gotta weed out the TERFS
By anon
Sat, 04/16/2022 - 5:24pm
Gotta weed out the TERFS
Too gay
By Sock_Puppet
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 9:55am
The implosion of Boston Pride can also be explained in part by this acronym: QTBIPOC. Here's the statement by Boston Pride announcing its dissolution.
https://www.bostonpride.org
Silly old pride was too gay, too lesbian. Not enough other letters and other issues. With gay rights largely won, the youth wanted the gay rights movement to pivot to a sort of all-purpose social justice movement. And they wanted the gays and lesbians who created and ran pride to keep working, while taking an ideological beating from their new overlords. If you're same sex attracted, you're not only no longer central, but you're suspect.
This Quillette article has greater detail.
https://quillette.com/2021/10/13/the-implosion-of-...
The protesters against Pride, who repeatedly interrupted the march with demonstrations, demanded more BLM, less police (and for goodness sake, no police as parade marshalls), no Israel, and definitely no Log Cabin Republicans. And white people, such as those gays and lesbians who founded and ran the organization, should just sit down and shut up.
See up there, how easily gay is demoted to "queer?" If a gay man is offended by that, he clearly doesn't matter to these folks. But why should people who created an organization to support same-sex attracted people put up with being forced to work as servants to people whose ideas they don't agree with, and lose even the right to define who they are?
Under those conditions, with insults piled on demands, and the insistence that everybody toe a narrow ideological line, who can blame the Pride organizers for finding something better to do with their time?
Thanks for linking that Quillette article.
By CopleyScott17
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 3:07pm
Very eye-opening overview of the whole absurd situation.
Oh you sweet summer child
By lbb
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 5:18pm
lol
Aw, honey
By Sock_Puppet
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 6:21am
Bless your heart. You're new to all this, aren't you? Is there anything you need better explained?
See, when us boring old people were coming up (in the _last_century!_), it was illegal for gay people to get married, or even to have sex, and it was legal to fire gay people from jobs just for being gay. It's probably difficult for kids these days to imagine what things were like back then.
Have a read of the Quillette article (unless your little band of blue-fringers will shun you for it). Boston Pride started to fall apart just as Obergefell v Hodges (which legalized gay marriage in the entire country) was decided in 2015. In the words of the protesters, "YOU’VE GOT MARRIAGE—WHAT DO WE HAVE??"
(They already had marriage, unless it was same-sex marriage)
Oh, sugarpie
By lbb
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 9:14am
Bwaaahahaha. I was organizing Pride marches in the '80s. Take a seat.
Slightly off topic
By Don't Panic
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 12:49am
As a member of the LGBTQIA+ community...
I'm behind the times. What does the "IA" stand for?
Intersex and Asexual
By Ron Newman
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 6:19am
(I think?)
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