The city's website has these maps around the middle of this webpage -see link below. Some of that info is nearly a year old and I am not sure if the plans have changed since then.
Some speed humps were implemented in my neighborhood a few months ago -although not yet on my street unfortunately- and they are a major improvement.
My main issue is the ridiculously wasteful and over the top amount of street signage associated with this program. Up to a dozens new street signs per block in some cases. The speed hump already have very visible white chevrons painted on them. Moreover some wise city people think it necessary to advertise Speed Zone End with big signs even though it is the same type of residential street where people really don't need to be encouraged to pick up speed. Near my house, there is one of these End Speed Zone sign, and then a 15 MPH posted right after. In an other case, there is a End Speed Zone just before entering a school zone.
The city needs to hire a logician and someone who cares about what happens to tax payer's money.
“ Speed humps are only used on smaller neighborhood streets. They are not appropriate for wider, busier streets or for streets with MBTA bus routes.”
That’s a bit disappointing as the wider streets are also the ones that become speedways.
Some MBTA bus drivers speed. However they could leave them out of the bus only lanes. Narrower streets will still benefit from these.
These things don’t just slow you down, they cause damage and premature wear on your car, even if you’re driving 10 mph under the 25 mph speed limit. They are a threat to bicycles, motorcycles, emergency vehicles, everyone on wheels. I’d much rather see 2,000 traffic cameras all over the city enforcing the reasonable 25 mph limit.
Emergency vehicles do just fine with them. If they didn’t they wouldn’t pass muster with the fire and police departments. In fact, with these in place, there will be less crashes, injuries and deaths. Thus less need for emergency vehicles.
I’ve ridden my bike over or through the bike groove on many occasions and never had a problem.
For values of "your car" that do not include Corvettes, Lamborghinis, and the like. If you do drive one of those, you'd better understand that there are local road hazards that can ruin your day.
The only real “hazards” on the road are the losers who speed everywhere. Luckily these speed bumps will slow them down. My street now has them and it’s been great.
Depends on your definition of speeding. I like to think of it as exceeding the posted speed limit of 25 mph. Try driving over a speed bump at 25. You may get a concussion from hitting your head on your car ceiling. Fortunately I don’t know of too many speed bumps around, but you could try Florence Street in Chestnut Hill at 25 mph.
I have been reading UHub for a long time, I knew all the slow driving people would come out cheering for this. But you should be honest. If you want speed bumps that force drivers to go 15 mph, first of all get that speed limit through your city legal system, then post it next to your speed bump.
Not the speed requirement. You’re still speeding if you’re driving too fast for many conditions such as sight hazards, poor lighting at night, children and pets at play near roadsides, bad weather, speed humps, etc.
You bump your head going over a speed bump too fast, tough luck, pal. Slow down and save lives.
Whats the behavioral differences you think a 15 mph speed limit sign is compared to a speed bump sign? Remember, motorists are already ignoring the 25 mph posting and BPD is beneath traffic enforcement, so whats it gonna do?
The way you phrased it, its another kick the can down the road take. We need solutions now.
Also, you think its the slow drivers cheering for this and not, I dunno, people who are sick and tired of reckless driving in this city?
So you slow down.
Cameras are a great idea, but it. would require an act of the Massachusetts General Court on Beacon Hill where all good ideas such as that go to die in Committee.
"....this thing that isn't legal under our state constitution."
Same vein as "Fix the T first", another excuse to kick the can down the road and stick with the status quo.
Seems like its the only way to get motorists to not drive recklessly, I hear plenty of stories of motorists crying about narrowed roads and speed bumps making them go slower to avoid damaging their cars. Good.
Everyone knows there isn't going to be any enforcement of any kind. So the easiest alternative to get motorists to slow the f*** down and pay attention is to threaten the lives of their oil pans.
If you don't go racing through side streets it won't be a problem for you.
Go to Mexico! They have speed bumps (Topes) seemingly at random, sometimes on major highways, sometimes with no signage and if you're lucky the paint hasn't worn off.
The ones here are benign. They are most certainly not a threat to bicycles, because of the shorter wheelbase people riding bikes can just bike right over them. (Source, me biking over lots of these.)
Funny, I ride over the speed bump on my street multiple times a day on my bicycles, and I have yet to have any problems. Interactions with speeding cars, on the other hand...
The only ones that come close to being noticeable on a bike are the 10mph ones in areas of Somerville.
Speaking of which, I saw someone on FB who pulled aside to let a raging driver pass and the raging arse did serious damage to their car when they engaged the accelerator without engaging their brain. That isn't the fault of the speed bump but the speeding lump behind the wheel.
Curious, how would this impact snow plows and street cleaners city wide? Not that we get much snow any more, but would the installation of these througout the city slow down the process of snow removal after a large storm? Would it slow down street cleaners?
Or is this not an issue for these applications?
Thinking about unintended results from a city wide program.
True, Im not saying its bad, but everything has a downstream impact.
Say it takes 10% longer to clean the street with speed humps. The city would have to budget for that extra 10% in labor or additional equipment or streets would get missed on a rotating basis that may result in trash remaining on the street longer.
For snow removal, say it take 24 hours to remove all the snow in an area, but with the speed humps it now takes 36 hours to remove snow. That extra time could impact people getting to work, school buses, etc. Or the city would have to budget to bring in extra plows.
This is all hypothetical but change on a population level has potential impacts and should be planned for accordingly.
What you want to do is to accelerate over a speed bump. When you are decelerating, your car pitches forward and downward. So if you decelerate late and/or aggressively into a speed bump, it's a harder hit since you hit it with a lot more mass. Conversely, if you maintain speed or even accelerate across a speed bump, the center of mass moves towards the back of the vehicle and the front rises up and the crossing is much more benign. So the best way to cross a speed bump is to slow down well before the speed bump (for these, say, to 10-15 mph) and then accelerate across the speed bump up to, say, 20.
This doesn't mean you go any faster or slower: the speed bump is still just as effective in limiting your speed. However, it is better for your vehicle and the passengers inside.
This is gonna be fun. The FAQ says they won't install speed humps on main emergency vehicle routes, but the map says they plan to install them on half of the main fire truck route between the Chestnut Hill Ave fire station and Comm Ave.
Why only half, why only that particular half, and are they going to change their minds about the speed humps, or reroute the fire trucks?
Seems like a certain writer prefers humps to bumps. Meanwhile, rumor was emergency vehicle types (fire, EMT) don't like them because they have to slow down. Snopes?
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Is there a link to a map by
Is there a link to a map by any chance?
Map here
https://www.boston.gov/departments/transportation/making-neighborhood-st...
The city's website has these
The city's website has these maps around the middle of this webpage -see link below. Some of that info is nearly a year old and I am not sure if the plans have changed since then.
Some speed humps were implemented in my neighborhood a few months ago -although not yet on my street unfortunately- and they are a major improvement.
My main issue is the ridiculously wasteful and over the top amount of street signage associated with this program. Up to a dozens new street signs per block in some cases. The speed hump already have very visible white chevrons painted on them. Moreover some wise city people think it necessary to advertise Speed Zone End with big signs even though it is the same type of residential street where people really don't need to be encouraged to pick up speed. Near my house, there is one of these End Speed Zone sign, and then a 15 MPH posted right after. In an other case, there is a End Speed Zone just before entering a school zone.
The city needs to hire a logician and someone who cares about what happens to tax payer's money.
https://www.boston.gov/departments/transportation/making-neighborhood-st...
Pics of ridiculous speed hump signage here
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ae7ELsHULAKAjnN3A
https://photos.app.goo.gl/gdnbKxVFmvjDk8CV9
From the website :
“ Speed humps are only used on smaller neighborhood streets. They are not appropriate for wider, busier streets or for streets with MBTA bus routes.”
That’s a bit disappointing as the wider streets are also the ones that become speedways.
Some MBTA bus drivers speed. However they could leave them out of the bus only lanes. Narrower streets will still benefit from these.
Fantastic!!!!
Please put some in my neighborhood!!!
Love the new speed bumps!
Now, lets go even farther with modal-filters, chicanes, and pedestrian-scale infrastructure!
Car destroyers
These things don’t just slow you down, they cause damage and premature wear on your car, even if you’re driving 10 mph under the 25 mph speed limit. They are a threat to bicycles, motorcycles, emergency vehicles, everyone on wheels. I’d much rather see 2,000 traffic cameras all over the city enforcing the reasonable 25 mph limit.
Nonsense.
Don’t speed and you won’t damage your car.
Emergency vehicles do just fine with them. If they didn’t they wouldn’t pass muster with the fire and police departments. In fact, with these in place, there will be less crashes, injuries and deaths. Thus less need for emergency vehicles.
I’ve ridden my bike over or through the bike groove on many occasions and never had a problem.
"You won't damage your car."
For values of "your car" that do not include Corvettes, Lamborghinis, and the like. If you do drive one of those, you'd better understand that there are local road hazards that can ruin your day.
Won't somebody think of the Lamborghinis?
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LOL!
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and IndyCars!
At this rate, we'll never have a Boston Grand Prix.
Sure we will, just as soon as
Sure we will, just as soon as we get the Olympics.
The only real “hazards” on
The only real “hazards” on the road are the losers who speed everywhere. Luckily these speed bumps will slow them down. My street now has them and it’s been great.
“Don’t speed”
Depends on your definition of speeding. I like to think of it as exceeding the posted speed limit of 25 mph. Try driving over a speed bump at 25. You may get a concussion from hitting your head on your car ceiling. Fortunately I don’t know of too many speed bumps around, but you could try Florence Street in Chestnut Hill at 25 mph.
I have been reading UHub for a long time, I knew all the slow driving people would come out cheering for this. But you should be honest. If you want speed bumps that force drivers to go 15 mph, first of all get that speed limit through your city legal system, then post it next to your speed bump.
25 is the speed limit in ideal conditions only.
Not the speed requirement. You’re still speeding if you’re driving too fast for many conditions such as sight hazards, poor lighting at night, children and pets at play near roadsides, bad weather, speed humps, etc.
You bump your head going over a speed bump too fast, tough luck, pal. Slow down and save lives.
If I'm being honest, thats a moronic take
Whats the behavioral differences you think a 15 mph speed limit sign is compared to a speed bump sign? Remember, motorists are already ignoring the 25 mph posting and BPD is beneath traffic enforcement, so whats it gonna do?
The way you phrased it, its another kick the can down the road take. We need solutions now.
Also, you think its the slow drivers cheering for this and not, I dunno, people who are sick and tired of reckless driving in this city?
Speed bumps are marked by signage
So you slow down.
Cameras are a great idea, but it. would require an act of the Massachusetts General Court on Beacon Hill where all good ideas such as that go to die in Committee.
"I'd much rather see..."
"....this thing that isn't legal under our state constitution."
Same vein as "Fix the T first", another excuse to kick the can down the road and stick with the status quo.
Seems like its the only way to get motorists to not drive recklessly, I hear plenty of stories of motorists crying about narrowed roads and speed bumps making them go slower to avoid damaging their cars. Good.
Too bad, so sad
Everyone knows there isn't going to be any enforcement of any kind. So the easiest alternative to get motorists to slow the f*** down and pay attention is to threaten the lives of their oil pans.
If you don't go racing through side streets it won't be a problem for you.
“ they cause damage and
“ they cause damage and premature wear on your car”.
Even if this were true, which it isn’t, it’s better than damage to pedestrians, cyclists and other road users.
How will the Popo chase ..
Scooters and four-wheelers?
Same as they always do.
By parking in a crosswalk or bus stop to make a Dunkin’s run.
Want to see car-destroying speed bumps?
Go to Mexico! They have speed bumps (Topes) seemingly at random, sometimes on major highways, sometimes with no signage and if you're lucky the paint hasn't worn off.
The ones here are benign. They are most certainly not a threat to bicycles, because of the shorter wheelbase people riding bikes can just bike right over them. (Source, me biking over lots of these.)
A threat to bicycles?
Funny, I ride over the speed bump on my street multiple times a day on my bicycles, and I have yet to have any problems. Interactions with speeding cars, on the other hand...
I know, right?
The only ones that come close to being noticeable on a bike are the 10mph ones in areas of Somerville.
Speaking of which, I saw someone on FB who pulled aside to let a raging driver pass and the raging arse did serious damage to their car when they engaged the accelerator without engaging their brain. That isn't the fault of the speed bump but the speeding lump behind the wheel.
Slow down
And stop cutting through residential neighborhoods.
That will help a lot.
Better yet, think about when a car is needed and when it isn't and transport yourself accordingly.
Curious, how would this
Curious, how would this impact snow plows and street cleaners city wide? Not that we get much snow any more, but would the installation of these througout the city slow down the process of snow removal after a large storm? Would it slow down street cleaners?
Or is this not an issue for these applications?
Thinking about unintended results from a city wide program.
That could be a good thing.
Snow plow drivers often speed and drive dangerously.
True, Im not saying it bad,
True, Im not saying its bad, but everything has a downstream impact.
Say it takes 10% longer to clean the street with speed humps. The city would have to budget for that extra 10% in labor or additional equipment or streets would get missed on a rotating basis that may result in trash remaining on the street longer.
For snow removal, say it take 24 hours to remove all the snow in an area, but with the speed humps it now takes 36 hours to remove snow. That extra time could impact people getting to work, school buses, etc. Or the city would have to budget to bring in extra plows.
This is all hypothetical but change on a population level has potential impacts and should be planned for accordingly.
Good points.
Here’s hoping the city is proactive on planning for the possible changes.
Boston will have police on overtime
At each speed bump watching a flag person inform the plow driver to lift the blade a foot off the ground. It's all very efficient and cost effective.
Haha! Good one.
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Doesn't seem to matter to Montreal
Just an anecdata point, but Montreal has put in a bunch of humps and still manages to plow their streets.
Good!
They've noticeably slowed traffic on sections of Hemenway St. I wish they could be added to Fenway & Park Drive.
Magoo sez
Magoo luvs speed humps when riding Mrs. Magoo. Giggity giggity Magoo. Magoo.
Fanfuckingtastic...
Rollup over a speedbump and right down into a pothole. What could go wrong?
Imagine being mad about the
Imagine being mad about the city doing something that has been proven to save lives.
No anger, no hate.
Just the irony of shitty streets that damage cars and no focus on that
Know what fixes both issues?
Paying attention to your speed and looking around and at the road when you drive.
If you can't avoid damaging your car when you drive, you might want to look into a skills refresher course from AARP or AAA. https://northeast.aaa.com/driving-school.html
#ProTip
Here is how to go over a speed bump:
What you want to do is to accelerate over a speed bump. When you are decelerating, your car pitches forward and downward. So if you decelerate late and/or aggressively into a speed bump, it's a harder hit since you hit it with a lot more mass. Conversely, if you maintain speed or even accelerate across a speed bump, the center of mass moves towards the back of the vehicle and the front rises up and the crossing is much more benign. So the best way to cross a speed bump is to slow down well before the speed bump (for these, say, to 10-15 mph) and then accelerate across the speed bump up to, say, 20.
This doesn't mean you go any faster or slower: the speed bump is still just as effective in limiting your speed. However, it is better for your vehicle and the passengers inside.
oh boy...
This is gonna be fun. The FAQ says they won't install speed humps on main emergency vehicle routes, but the map says they plan to install them on half of the main fire truck route between the Chestnut Hill Ave fire station and Comm Ave.
Why only half, why only that particular half, and are they going to change their minds about the speed humps, or reroute the fire trucks?
Seems like a certain writer
Seems like a certain writer prefers humps to bumps. Meanwhile, rumor was emergency vehicle types (fire, EMT) don't like them because they have to slow down. Snopes?