Boston Licensing Board members today excoriated the owners of a North Station club for the way they handled - or didn't - street-clogging melees that erupted after a pre-Halloween bash that ended with two cops and several brawlers injured, three people facing criminal charges, and with every single District A-1 cop flooding the scene, aided by state troopers and Transit Police officers.
"It was a complete nightmare that happened that night," board Chairwoman Kathleen Joyce said.
But the board took no formal action on any possible sanction against Big Night Live, because its veteran Boston operators - Big Night Entertainment - did not get the board any of the video it requested at a Tuesday hearing until just a few minutes before the board was scheduled to vote this morning, and that what video it did provide did not appear to show exactly how more than 1,000 people exited the club after a "Yelloween" party ended early on Oct. 19.
The board also said it wants Big Night to provide a detailed "dispersal" plan for how it empties out guests from the space - which can hold more than 1,600 people - and what its security arrangements are with a security company hired by the place's landlord, Boston Properties, for after-hours patrols of the area, as well as more video than the place handed over to the board this morning.
At Tuesday's hearing, Big Night officials said that after they clear out the club and a pavilion outside, their security guards retreat inside and leave any issues on the sidewalk up to that other company - and that on the night in question, dispersal went well and besides, who knows if the people who wound up in a series of brawls up and down Causeway Street starting around 2:45 a.m. were even Big Night patrons, and, well, there's no evidence they were.
Joyce, however, said today she didn't buy it, at least not based on the evidence she's seen so far. At Tuesday's hearing, a BPD sergeant testified that not only did the people he talked to that night say they'd come from Big Night Live, many were wearing costumes, on a night that only Big Night Live was holding a Halloween event.
Joyce said she cannot recall another licensing hearing where so many police officers - six - testified in a single Zoomed hearing, and that on what video Big Night did provide that she was able to view, "I couldn't even count" how many police officers were on scene.
"Something happened," Joyce said. "I don't know what that is yet, but I don't think dispersal went well."
And even aside from the fact that many of the street fighters were in costume, board member Liam Curran said, Big Night had no way of knowing that the brawlers were not their customers, because, as its own managers testified, they all retreated inside before the trouble began.
Board members said they were surprised that Big Night would say its responsibilities ended at the sidewalk, when the company has operated in Boston for years and knows the board's requirement that venues ensure sidewalks and other areas immediately adjacent to them are peaceful, especially at closing timt.
"They know how we operate," board member Keeana Saxon said. Saxon and the other two board members agreed that also extended to providing the information and video the board had asked for on Tuesday - and not waiting until the very last minute to do so.
The board gave Big Night until Tuesday to provide more video - showing all facets of the exodus of patrons that night - its plan for handling that, any internal reports by club managers on the incident and a copy of any agreement on handling post-closing security with Boston Properties' security company.
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By Friartuck
Thu, 11/14/2024 - 1:12pm
Shut them down for 6 months and even after they re-open, shut them down for a one week block around every holiday, that'll teach them!.
I don't know, it doesn't seem
By anon
Fri, 11/15/2024 - 11:04am
I don't know, it doesn't seem right of the city to force a business to be responsible for jerks that want to fight out on the street. I get it if their bouncers are involved but this seems like the city not wanting to take responsibility. The police responded quickly and in force, so clearly they're able.
Why are we putting bouncers and bartenders on the front line of public safety? They should absolutely be responsible for what happens in their club and cut off people who have had too much but they shouldn't be beat cops, especially when we see stories of them punching/stabbing people to death. They aren't trained or signing up for that. And how far does the rule extend? To the end of the block or edge of the building? Is it like snow clearing rules with the neighbors where we just handshake on what is who's jurisdiction? If a fight spills over next door does the next bar/club have to intervene? Fights/brawls/melees whatever we call them are police business in my view. Just saying "That's how we do things here" doesn't justify it.
"The most dangerous phrase is 'We've always done it this way'" - Grace Hopper
And patrons likely have no clue
By HenryAlan 2.0
Fri, 11/15/2024 - 1:34pm
I agree with you that it shouldn't be the clubs and bars that are responsible for policing the streets. But setting that aside, most people don't know that they are. I can well recall when I was younger and more rambunctious being told by bouncers to clear the area out front, to which many of us responded that we had the right to assemble and that they (the bouncers) weren't cops and had no jurisdiction over the public right of way. Had we known that they were defacto deputized cops, I suspect we would have been more cooperative, but instead, the entire process only angers the assembled crowd.
I can think of few Americans
By Will LaTulippe
Thu, 11/14/2024 - 2:52pm
Who deserve another Trump presidency more than Keeana Saxon does.
Please explain what you mean by that
By Seth Anastasios
Thu, 11/14/2024 - 4:07pm
Why are we singling out the only Black member of this board as "deserving" a Trump presidency? What on earth do you mean by that? Please be specific...
Because she's an abusive piece of garbage
By Will LaTulippe
Thu, 11/14/2024 - 9:08pm
And I can easily say that for the other two scolding, useless thieves of public money who sit alongside her on the board. I chose to single out the one who blocked me on Facebook when I called her on her (expletive).
Donald Trump (who is a pathological liar, yet, the media* has stopped telling me that he is, and has started accepting his words as truth now that it suits what they're trying to sell) has spoken about his sentiment for getting rid of government waste. I don't believe for a second that the man who gave a job to Betsy DeVos will actually do such a thing, but I'm glad that he has terrible people running scared.
*My dad printed a newspaper for 40 years. I want to like news organizations. They won't let me.
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