Teens charged with tasing and punching store customer in Downtown Crossing robbery that turned into a brawl
Boston Police report arresting two Mattapan teens - and say they are looking for two more - for a violent robbery on Winter Street Saturday night.
Police say four teens - three male and one female - grabbed some cash at Underground Express, 31 Winter St., around 6 p.m.
The suspects then became agitated and began to assault patrons in the store. One victim reported that the female suspect was armed with a taser and tased him while punching him. The fight spilled out of the store where unknown pedestrians attempted to intervene to no avail. The suspects eventually fled on foot into the Park Street MBTA station. The officers broadcast the suspect descriptions and one of the males and the female suspect were apprehended in the Downtown Crossing MBTA station by Transit Police and Boston Police officers.
The two teens who were nabbed, not named because of their age, are charged with being delinquent for assault and battery by means of a dangerous weapon, armed robbery, affray and being a disorderly person.
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Need a better getaway
It's always kind of funny to me when people rob a store and then make their quick getaway by running to the nearest subway station and then patiently waiting for the next train.
Great work
Kudos to the Boston and Transit Police who work together to make to make the city safer. Can anyone explain why the State Police and Boston Police can't work together to make the Seaport safer.Why are there jurisdictional issues on Massport property and no problems with jurisdiction on MBTA property?
The Best Working Part Of The Ⓣ Is The MBTA Transit Police!
The T Police would also get
The T Police would also get plenty of arrests if the just see what we see happen every day at North and South Stations. The open drug dealing, sex trades, fare jumping, and alcohol and drug induced arassment of working innocent riders is an all day occurrence. You don't need cable tv, you get all the drama you need for free if you commute at these 2 stations on a daily basis. I get all the added bonuses gettin home to FHills from North Station. Luv that dirty water.
Despite the fact they have
Despite the fact they have been working for 4 years without a contract, because the T cares as much about them as they do infrastructure maintenance
It’s all on the State PD.
It’s all on the State PD. They are terrified of losing their details to BPD. And what’s funny is that BPD said hey can have them.
If you need police services, who would you rather respond? I’d want BPD every single time. Staties are notoriously cranky, and they don’t deal with entirely different “police work”.
What do you think are the chances
Of any state trooper swallowing any pride or conceding any kind of power for any reason?
Is it legal for non-police to own Tasers in Massachusetts?
No even when a unanmious
No even when a unanmious SCotUS tells MA otherwise:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caetano_v._Massachusetts
Another criminal case with the same public defender as in Caetano:
Commonwealth v. Jorge Ramirez SJC-12340 Video: http://www.suffolk.edu/sjc/pop.php?csnum=SJC_12340 Check out at 26:30 and compare to the SCotUS statement in Caetano to the ADA's argument which seems to be in blatant contempt for the US Supreme Court.
Almost
9 more months or so, imho.
Follow the Ramirez case.
No name why????
It surly isn't their reputations to protect..
Give the names of these protected darlings.
It may help them to see their name in print beside the headline
Read the last paragraph
It’s been that way for a long time, and for good reason. The hope is that as they age they will get more responsible. Hopefully.
Because it is the law in Massachusetts
And you don't make a point about being accused of not following laws by breaking laws.
Wrong
Newspapers can print juvenile offender names all day long.
-- “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” --
They just don't do it.
Wrong
What, should the newspapers just make up names? The police don't tell the reporters identifying info so the papers have no names to print.
This would lead to the next question
Are proceedings in Juvenile Court open to the public and by extension the press?
I kind of hope not, but if they were, theoretically the press could attend arraignments and get the information then. Would they want to pass the information on is another story.
They are not open to the public
Juvenile sessions are always closed.
This would lead to the next question
Are proceedings in Juvenile Court open to the public and by extension the press?
I kind of hope not, but if they were, theoretically the press could attend arraignments and get the information then. Would they want to pass the information on is another story.
Oh lordy....
Reporters do not go around taking no for an answer if they want to publish something, thanks to freedom of the press. We are talking the LAW here, not what you think is the law.
From Virginia:
If you scroll up, the argument is that someone said "It may help them to see their name in print beside the headline". We can do that. It is legal. There is no law to stop the press from printing juvenile crime names in headlines or in stories.
Now, the question is, "Is BPDNEWS the press?". It is a dotcom, not a dotgov, but it does say "official" website. Tough call.
From Florida:
http://turnto10.com/news/nation-world/cantonment-teen-arrested-on-weapon...
Is Massachusetts like Florida or is Massachusetts like Virginia in regards to releasing juvenile names in criminal arrest records. I am assuming we are like Florida, but assuming makes an ass out of you (not me). So let's get digging.
https://www.sec.state.ma.us/pre/prepdf/A-Guide-to-Massachusetts-Public-R...
Nothing about minors, juveniles, or age restrictions. They made a point about the law regarding blueprints as a matter of available public record. I would think a law on juvenile public records would surely trump that. Still searching.
Tell us your real name then
Let's look up YOUR arrest record, shall we?
I don't think that means
What you say it means.
But we all know that your level of idiocy knows no bounds.
What next - the Skousen Annotations that tell us what the founders REALLY meant?
C'mon - up your game!
BTW this has nothing to do with the first Amendment and everything to do with Mass Law that redacts the names of juvenile defendants. But actually knowing that is wayyyyy beyond your mental capacity.
publish their names and they will be forever googleable.
In the off chance they straighten them selves out they will have less of a chance of success.
Just sayin....
And what you are sayin
is fine and noble.... and the fact that you used "off chance" makes what you are saying brutally honest and intelligent.
BUT
I have proven that it is NOT against the law to publish juvenile names regarding crimes in any state. I have proven that at least in Florida it is legal for the government to release names of juveniles regarding crimes and that no one has actually found a state law to post here for Massachusetts... myself included.
and also
There has to be a limit to protecting individuals versus protecting society. The age of 18 as a threshold is in some ways okay and in some ways a disservice to all. There is no easy solution. Accountability and consequences are best taught at young ages just as equally as mercy and compassion. I lean towards having compassion through forgiveness rather than leniency at the expense of public safety. I know my stance inadvertently but inevitably creates yet another victim class which is quite in fashion these days. That puts pressure on me, and in a perfect society as a whole, to preach restraint and all those other good things rather than give into "kids will be kids". I do not like breeding victims whether they be in my circle or in the society I live in.
Why
Would anyone want to live in a luxury condo or even shop in the DTX area, it's so dangerous, random patrons being assaulted isn't a good look for the area.