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Bloody night along Methadone Mile: One shot dead, one stabbed in the chest
By adamg on Fri, 10/05/2018 - 8:52am
Victim identified as Raymond Holloway-Creighton, 26, of Dorchester.
Boston Police report a man, believed to be in his 20s, was shot at 911 Massachusetts Ave., near Chesterton Street, around 3:30 a.m.
He was taken to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Around 8:45 p.m. on Thursday, a man wound up at the Boston Medical Center emergency room with a stab wound to the chest. Police found the knife that may have been used outside outside the hospital emergency room.
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Methadone
It's great that they have a committee studying what to do with that area.... Meanwhile that place remains a dangerous eyesore for the city & surrounding businesses.
Its an open
Drug market on Mass and Melina Cass, people shoot in broad daylight and nothing is done about it.
True, but what to do about it?
I'm not being snarky. Rounding everyone up and putting them in jail solves nothing. If there were 1000 inpatient beds to house everyone in treatment, then THAT might be a start, but where are those beds and who will pay?
Who said anything about jail
You can still clear them out and confiscate the paraphernalia.
Clear them out to where?
Last week we had one story here about the cops arresting dealers at ground zero of Methadone Mile and another story about an increase in drug activity and homeless people in peripheral areas. These stories seem to be related. Until recently the city's policy had been to contain the problem by selective enforcement within this area, but an increase in violence makes that difficult. I don't know what the ultimate answer should be, but there is a benefit to residents of other neighborhoods in keeping much of this activity focused in a mostly nonresidential area.
There ARE residents in the area
Agree that in principal placing a problem away from residents makes sense, unfortunately, that does not apply here. people are shooting up in Orchard Garden School playground. There are so many needles that students are forced to skip recess.
TL;DR: If you live in Beacon Hill or Back Bay, you are isolated from the problem. Roxbury and BMC area: good luck.
I really want to know
And put them where?
Which will accomplish what?
Which will accomplish what? Taking away addicts' drugs and "paraphernalia" so now they have to go acquire more? If you can't fix the problem, how is aggravating it going to help?
So you get a thousand
So you get a thousand homeless junkies with nothing to lose fiemding for dope and trying to get cash all at the same time... This plan was not thought through
Re : methodone mile
It's like the walking dead
The only way you're gonna get
The only way you're gonna get those people on a drug treatment bed is to arrest them, send them to what we call "drug court" , and judge orders them to treatment or jail. Maybe a small handful will stay clean for more than a year.
What committee?
Can you share a link to information about this committee? Chief of Health and Human services did not discuss the committee during his long island testimony
Death if 20 yo not an Eyesore!
Jeffrey something or other
lamented the Eyesore to the city and surrounding businesses.
A 20 yo DIED last night.
Get your priorities in order not to mention moral compass.
Build the bridge.
Build the bridge.
Build the docks
Ferries could be running to the island by the spring.
nope
Not a durable solution.
How about building in the
How about building in the city to address the problems of people in the city without having to build something to send the people out to sea?
How about the suburbs start dealing with their opioid problem?
The majority of the addicts are NOT from the city of Boston. The residents of Roxbury and the South End are fed up and DO NOT want a treatment center in their neighborhood. Boston tax payers should not have to deal with the burden of paying for these addicts (which they are because of the police presence), who are from out of state and suburban areas.
The island was previously home to a facility and only closed because the bridge to get there closed. It is an ideal location because NIMBY's agree it is a neutral location. So yes, sending them "out to sea" is the best option for these people to get lengthy treatment and go home.
Broken Windows
The broken windows theory is a criminological theory that visible signs of crime, anti-social behavior and civil disorder create an urban environment that encourages further crime and disorder, including serious crimes.
Methadone Mile is a classic case study. To say that this is an open air drug and sex for money or drugs area is an understatement. Now we have a hepatitis outbreak on our hands. We are watching this happen as Rome burns. Forget the bridge, we need a response now. Thoughts and ideas???
Broken Windows is a failed theory
Like DARE, it sounds nice but completely fails when subject to evaluation and tests of efficacy.
You would do better to read the literature on it - the theory has been around for 30 years and there are a lot of data that says it fails.
There's also a lot of data
There's also a lot of data which says it works.
Nope
Not when the change in the age structure of the population is factored in, which was part of a national trend in dropping crime rates regardless of whether "broken windows" was being used to enslave much of the black male population into prisons.
Criminal justice literature highlights the variability of tests
Variability occurs when applying broken windows theory. media covers this as if it's a disproven theory, in reality, the "dose" of broken windows applied has varied by city.
Source: https://cebcp.org/evidence-based-policing/what-works-in-policing/researc...
I know it's the prevailing
I know it's the prevailing nickname, but could people reconsider using the word methadone to refer to an area with a drug abuse problem? Methadone is literally a solution for drug abuse, so it makes no sense and implies that the people, not the problem, are the problem. It's like calling an area where people keep getting hit by cars Crosswalk Corner.
Methadone Mile
I don't know that a name would change people's opinion of the problem/people/area at all.
Sorry to be cynical, but regardless of if the scene that unfolds daily at this intersection is caused by heroin, methadone, or natty ice, people are going to have pretty strong opinions that are enforced every time they pass through.
You clearly aren't familiar with the area
And why it been given the name. Drug use is prevalent in said are because of its proximity to methadone clinics who are used by both people trying to get better and those simply looking for a free high to supplement their drug addiction.
Also methadone is probably the worst treatment available!
Methadone is one of three treatments available
and as bad as it is, it has the MOST and strongest data out of any FDA approved treatment.
If you're a believer in abstinence, take a walk down methadone mile and let us know how well abstinence works!
It doesn’t look like
It doesn’t look like methadone is working very well down there. Not to mention you can buy a suboxen for $5-10 on mass ave, all of which the addicts got for free from mass health. The money they earn selling their meds is going straight to heroin.
The fact is MAT may deliver a reduction in overdoses however it prolongs the suffering for addicts preventing them from finding long term recovery.
The solutions offered by the government usually make the problem worse, ex make it impossible to get oxy, as if there won’t be a spike in the use of street opiates, or put everyone on methadone or suboxen as if they aren’t addicted anymore. Methadone and suboxen are worse to come off of than heroin or fentanyl because they last so much longer. They also supposedly don’t not get the addict high. Well they definitely get sick if they don’t take it. How many heroin addicts want to be physically dependent on a drug that doesn’t get them High? Take a stroll down mass ave, apparently not many.
This is a massive problem that is going to get much worse before it gets any better. Out of the box thinking needs the be employed. If people haven’t lived it, survived it, and recover from it then they shouldn’t really offer solutions to it.
I recently saw the section of
I recently saw the section of the city referred to as "Mass & Cass", since the two streets that serve as the core are Massachusetts Ave. and Melnea Cass Blvd. Perhaps that would make a better, neutral shorthand name when referring to problems going on in the area.
I suggest you You Yube George
I suggest you You Yube George Carlin on 'Soft Language". Using soft language to hide the truth under a rug. George was a genius.
you can't put lipstick on a pig
while we natter on about the non stigmatizing words to use to describe this area we might want to recall this sign put up by the local car wash over 2 years ago!!! WELCOME TO HAMSTERDAM. The mayor asked them to remove it. Hard to imagine that things continue to deteriorate out there.
What the ____ should we call
What the ____ should we call it, then? Midtowne? Krosstowne?
How about drug addict mile?
How about drug addict mile?
What Indicates That Drug Issues Were Involved Here?
Yes, Chesterson Street (a very quaint street of brick townhouses, BTW) is very near to 'Methadone Mile'. But what here has indicated that this is relevant to this crime? Aren't people jumping the gun a little here to directly link the two at this point? If someone gets stabbed on Jersey Street, should we immediately tie it to baseball before all of the facts come out?
Constant patrols and flood lights
Constant foot/bike patrols needed.
Lights in dark spots.
Daily litter pickup.
Arrest dealers.
Keep testing services like the day shelter tent, but in varied locations.
Im trying to have compassion for those with problems, but I have very little compassion for whoever is trashing our city, leaving needles behind, driving petty crime, and costing us tens of millions.
Go after the drug companies if they hid the dangers. And move some of these services into other parts of the city. And especially to Quincy.
The only way to get rid of the Methadone mile
Is for the Boston Police to transport the worst of the worst down to Andrew station with a one way ticket to Quincy.
Alternative plan for improving methadone mile
1. STOP PLACING SERVICES FOR ACTIVE DRUG USERS NEXT TO SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING TO QUIT.
2. create multiple areas for people to receive services
3. tell police to arrest drug dealers who actively target people in recovery
4. protect people who are receiving service . http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2018/07/suspect_in_5_met...
a shooting, stabbing, a man who raped 5 woman before getting caught. this would NOT be tolerated in any other neighborhood in the city. Being homeless and quitting drugs are hard enough.
# 1 is # 1
what a simple and yet brilliant suggestion. Thank you for this!
Raymond Holloway-Creighton
At about 03:32 AM, on Friday, October 5, 2018, officers from District C-6 (South Boston) responded to the area of 911 Massachusetts Avenue, Roxbury for a person shot. On arrival, officers located a male victim suffering from a gunshot wound. The victim was transported to a local area hospital where he later succumbed to his injuries and was pronounced deceased. The victim has since been identified as Raymond Holloway-Creighton, 26, of Dorchester.
The Boston Police Department is actively reviewing the facts and circumstances surrounding this incident. Anyone with information is strongly urged to contact Boston Police Homicide Detectives at (617) 343-4470.
Community members wishing to assist this investigation anonymously can do so by calling the CrimeStoppers Tip Line at 1 (800) 494-TIPS or by texting the word ‘TIP’ to CRIME (27463). The Boston Police Department will stringently guard and protect the identities of all those who wish to help this investigation in an anonymous manner.
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"he was robbed while riding a
"he was robbed while riding a scooter home from a food delivery job. He was a husband & father"
https://twitter.com/ToddKazakiewich/status/1049384827605127168