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Group of teens beat man on Washington Street downtown for no particular reason, police say
By adamg on Tue, 08/15/2023 - 9:37pm
Boston Police report arresting a 15-year-old and two 14-year-olds on charges they jumped and stomped a man in front of the Steps on Washington Street in Downtown Crossing and left him bruised and bleeding as they and their pals ran away - except for the one who pedaled away on a Bluebike - around 8:15 p.m. on Monday.
Police say the man was "randomly attacked" by a group of teens. Responding officers soon spotted the kid on the Bluebike heading toward them, but:
As officers attempted to stop the suspect, he dismounted from the blue bike and pushed it at officers. The suspect fled from officers and a foot pursuit ensued. Officers were able to catch up to the suspect and place him into handcuffs.
Other officers were able to stop two more juvenile suspects who were involved in the assault. They were placed into handcuffs without incident.
EMTs treated the victim at the scene; he declined further medical attention.
The three were charged with being delinquent by means of assault and battery by means of dangerous weapon (shod foot) and affray, police say.
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no respect for laws. not afraid because they know there are no repercussions. i grew up in the city and we had a healthy fear of authority and it kept most of our asses in line. kids today don’t care.
Again with blue bikes
Should there be an age limit of 21?
Good luck trying to enforce
Good luck trying to enforce an age limit on stealing bikes.
Kids today care a lot.
Sounds like you don’t actually know any.
Oh relax...
I was being sardonic
Uh
That comment wasn't responding to yours.
Oops
Thx
Ok, bostonkid.
Friars today !!!
i have two Lee
they play sports and volunteer in the community. my 15yr old has a job. they don’t assault police officers or steal bikes.
you seem to have a comment on a lot of my comments. thanks for being a fan.
Who are you again?
.
No police in sight
Perhaps it would if there were, at least, a minimal police presence downtown and in the Common.
Shall we inventory your little war story collection?
No?
You didn't seem to have much respect for authority as a kid.
But now they are an expert on children.
Because they own two.
"Shod foot" being considered
"Shod foot" being considered a dangerous weapon is nearly as absurd as their behaviour
Ok then…
you lay on the ground while I use my leg muscles and body weight to stomp and kick you in the head and torso. I’m sure you’ll just pop up and shake off any concussion, brain swelling, and internal organ injuries.
The odd part
The odd part is that unshod feet are 'safe'.
Kicking or stomping with a shod foot
causes more damage than doing the same thing barefoot. That’s why it’s an enhanced charge.
Where’ve you been?
“Shod foot” has been described as a weapon for as long as I’ve been reading police reports. Imagine the force of a fist with the backing of a steel toe cap behind it. Not absurd at all.
pretty soon
We’re going to live in an undeveloped country, where the gangs run everything
Well,
If enough people vote Republican, that's what we get.
Well...?!?
Are you for real?
That's what *we have* with this being the unquestionably overwhelmingly blue state of Massachusetts.
Thanks for playing.
Try again.
Country, not state
Read moar.
(*sigh*)
So, you're saying these kids were engaging in political protest?
Suldog, where have you been?
Good to see you out and about
Thank You
I usually just read here, but sometimes a comment's vacuum of intelligence sucks me back in.
WB Suldog
Missed ya
Again, Thanks
I'm going back to lurking. I made my point. I won't engage further when I'd have to tie my IQ behind my back in order to make it a faIr fight.
You must need a very long rope ….
… to tie up that enormous IQ.
Huh?
??????
(*Gasp*)
No, I'm not. Did you also not read the comment I replied to?
not a fan of Republicans
but almost nothing teenage miscreants in Massachusetts do is a product of Republicans.
Not family issues, not the Boston schools, not the police, not Massachusetts law.
Ok then...
...what's it a product of, then?
Social media. Reduced sentencing and parents working too much
So many factors that result in kids not respecting others. Primarily it's due to lack of parenting which is a result of inflation, trickle down economics and kids spending way too much time on devices that provide a skewed version of reality.
mostly
lack of internalized moral values imputed through family, religious, cultural, school, and societal messaging.
Pfft
Religion causes as many problems as it solves.
You mean religious moral values like …
… white male supremacy and other immoral things?
Good!!!
Maybe I'll be able to finally buy a house once all the weak scared little cowards like yourself relocate to a flyover state to live in a safe space.
Like Boston in the 20th Century
Seemed pretty third-world to me - place was filthy, and apparently run by various political machines and/or organized crime groups.
WTF happened to Downtown Crossing?
Seems it's become the center of hooliganism.
Wouldn't go there now, even in day time.
Too much to ask for increased police presence?
At least they got two of the _________'s.
It's been downhill for Downtown Crossing
since the Great Boston Fire of 1872.
I’m there all the time.
Your fearful comments reflect the viewpoint of someone who is never there.
"no particular reason" doing a lot of work here
Certainly there was a motive.
Whether there is evidence to prove a specific motive, eg MGL c.265 s39 is another matter.
We can at least presume the influence of Satan, or sadism, or psychopathy.
I've seen the look on the faces of older teenagers when they cross the threshold from juvenile sentencing, easy probations and brief Department of Youth Services commitments into state prison sentences at age 18, or earlier as a Youthful Offender.
It's like: "7-10 years in state prison??? Nobody told me before!!"
Maybe it's time we redefine "juvenile."
These crimes aren't kid stuff.
They are eligible to be charged as "Youthful Offenders"
Since the offense involves "serious bodily harm" or threat thereof.
Which allows for commitment to a DYS facility until age 21, then transfer to an adult facility.
MGL c. 119 s 52 and 58.
I'm all for using more therapeutic correctional methods on young kids. Sometimes it works. DYS has some creative programs, but the system is overwhelmed.
Would an adult get 6 years for this?
I don't think you know much about sentencing if you think that. No adult would get that much time.
you can't understand
"could be" vs "will be?"
Nah, they will get juvie probation or short DYS commitment.
If they don't learn the lesson, they'll get the House of Correction or state prison bid next time.
Could they be charged? Did
Could they be charged? Did you realize that a grand jury has to vote to indict them?
So what.
If they have serious records (unlikely at their age) the DA would indict them.
Not exactly tough to get an indictment. Imagine a Grand Jury of UH commenters.
Youthful Offender is an avenue available for the prosecution under the law.
What point are you trying to make?
that you don't know much
that you don't know much about this.
You're doing a poor job at it
inarticulate. You haven't made one legal argument.
Citations needed
Please show the class any and all evidence behind your latest theory of the world.
Neither have you (made a legal argument).
Cutting and pasting initials does not make a legal argument. Did you "cite" serious bodily harm for someone that declined medical treatment?
I am not submitting a legal argument. I am saying that you don't know anything about the YO process if you presume that it is easy to indict.
Read the statute
"infliction or threat of serious bodily harm." ABDW is an offense which carries the threat of serious bodily harm.
Beyond that, you have a reasoning problem if you can't understand the difference between a potential outcome under the law and a likely outcome.
So your plan is to pretend
So your plan is to pretend you can argue by ignoring what I am saying? Can you explain where any threats were reported?
Just a matter of time
Before one of these groups of teens jumps someone with a lawful concealed carry weapon.
... and takes it away from him
- or her. That will certainly improve things.
They didn't get the gun away
from Bernie Goetz
And That Worked Out Well
For everybody. /s
Bernie Goetz spent months in
Bernie Goetz spent months in prison for carrying an unlicensed firearm and then was ordered to pay one of his victims $43 million dollars. This was also 40 years ago. You know "good guy with a gun" stories are non existent when Bernie Goetz is brought up.
Thanks
I’m not claiming the good guy with a gun theory, or saying Bernie Goetz is a good guy.
I’m saying when teens get to the point when they’re beating random strangers, bad things can happen.
Also, I originally said legally concealed weapon, which Goetz was not. And you can be sued by anyone you shoot in civil court no matter what the circumstances.
It’s not good overall. An innocent bystander could be hit by a stray bullet.
"which Goetz was not"
So, why did you bring him up?
Also, what Kinopio said. Good-guy-with-gun stories are rare when compared to random-guy-with-gun-shoots-somebody-by-accident stories.
I brought him up
Because you said "and takes it from him", implying that that was the only scenario that would arise.
Good-guy-with a gun-stories could be rare for other reasons than that situation happening less.
I think you're missing the point of my posts, but again this is an online forum so no surprise.
“ I’m saying when teens get
“ I’m saying when teens get to the point when they’re beating random strangers, bad things can happen.”
Is that when bad things begin to happen? What about when they are beating people they know like other kids? Why make a distinction?
Oakland has the Hells Angels
Boston has the Blue Bike Gang are these the same youths that beat up the poor guy on the orange line train at Downtown Crossing?
At one point we had
The Fruits and Vegetables.
Getting nothing but a slap on
Getting nothing but a slap on the wrist is good enough reason for some.
DTX is pathetic and sad
And "teens" do this shit because they know they'll have little to no repercussions. A lot is also left out. No description? Who is the victim? Was it a hate crime?
Who owns most of the real estate in DTX? Isn't it odd they don't put severe pressure on city hall? Or do they have financial motives where they benefit ?
You think real estate
You think real estate investors benefit from punk teens and ineffective cops? How?
No, but...
...they're absentees, I think is the point. The building owners are not there on a daily basis, nor are their representatives.
THere is a push to convert
THere is a push to convert some of this to housing. But it needs to be safer.
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There are other sites where you can express your Punisher kill-em-all fantasies.
Thank you
I saw that and was surprised it was printed.
Must have been a registered member
Their comments are posted before Adam sees them.
I’m glad I didn’t see it.
Thank you, adam.