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Bloggers booted from cable debate

Blue Mass. Groupistas ejected from studio moments before Fifth District congressional debate at the request of the Ogonowski campaign. They're Demmies, he's a GOPer.

Adam Reilly: My quick take is that this makes Ogonowski look bad and NECN look worse:

But maybe there were extenuating circumstances I'm not aware of. ...


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My first ever visit to "blue mass group" and I see this:

The prospect of going up "against" something which carries the name Ogonowski, the pilot who died in the covert US government operation known as 911, is simply uncontestable in the eyes of corpo-media.

I call it institutionalized assholianism.

Sounds like the local chapter of the Kos Kiddies tinfoil hat brigade.

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And their crazy theories, you know, like the theory that the Iraq war would be a goddamn disaster, or that Bush condones torture or that the public wants to get out of Iraq, or that the public wants an expansion of government healthcare...

Yeah, they're just sooooo crazzyy!

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There are varying degrees of "crazy theories".

Theories which are labeled "crazy" because they are unpopular, and annoy those in positions of power- that the Iraq War would be a complete disaster is one. There was a great deal of evidence prior to the invasion that it was a conflict invented by people who really didn't know the full scope of what they were about to do. They had a desired outcome and a desired means, and a belief that the means would lead to the outcome, irrespective of any known or unknown factors, or opinions to the contrary.

The other major category of crazy theories is populated by concepts which have no logical basis to them. 9/11 conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial, etc. Given any and all situations, there is the possibility to forge a fictional "link" to those who might "benefit", no matter how tenuous the link, and no matter how ridiculous the "benefit" appears, then shape reality by bending facts to justify the "conclusion".

If the conspiracy theory fails the most basic logical tests, then any "links" and "benefits" are liable to be irrelevant, as already stated, some semblance of them can be constructed around virtually any series of events.

Let's look at the basis of the most popular 9/11 conspiracy theory:

- Government wants more control, needs to assert power. Stages terrorist attack.

- Government decides to attack the World Trade Center and chooses to make it appear as though the attack is carried out by planes. Fake planes. Fake planes with passengers set to fly on the real version of said planes somehow secretly removed from the planes, or shunted to robotic planes at Logan without anyone there noticing the robotic planes in place of the real ones.

- Government decides that the attack from the air won't be the "real" attack and will only serve as a distraction. A distraction from the charges placed in the Trade Center by secret teams of explosives experts who penetrated the buildings and carefully placed demolition charges throughout the structures.

The plan doesn't make sense on any level whatsoever. Assuming for the sake of argument that the government wished to stage the attack, the plan still doesn't make the slightest bit of sense at all. It's the most ridiculous, ass-backwards, nonsensical, prone-to-discovery failure of an idea that one could possibly invent.

Anyone who accepts it as fact instantly relinquishes their credibility in my eyes.

I normally just link people to the Popular Mechanics article on 9/11 and leave it at that, but I'm feeling generous tonight.

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so 9/11 theories should have no bearing on what one thinks of dailykos.

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Your criticism may or may not be fair, but that comment was made by Lasthorseman, who posts a lot fringe theories and radical view points not only occasionally on BMG but other blogs like Kos. He's kind of an Apocolyptic street prophet.

I'm sure it won't change your opinion, but the three Editors and quite a few of the registered commenters do crank out some solid, high quality commentary. It may be commentary supporting politics you don't agree with, but it's probably the best political commentary in New England. [Granted, I participate over there so take my comments with whatever grain of salt you deem necessary.]

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Do you honestly think someone who used the line "Kos Kiddies tinfoil hat brigade" is really looking to make fair criticism? Uncle Bill says to hate left-wing blogs, so he's doing as he's told. Reasonability to the argument is immaterial.

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You're suggesting that someone using the phrase "covert US government operation known as 911" is worthy of fair criticism?
PS: I don't know who the f*** "Uncle Bill" is supposed to be, nor did anyone tell me to do anything, but thanks for playing, sweetpants.

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Are you suggesting that Lasthorseman's commentary is representative of the site as a whole?

If not, what the hell is your point?

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