Stephen Londergan is posting photos of pre-MBTA trolleys on the streets of Boston (and at least one of an actual trolley in Watertown).
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So the MTA
By anon
Tue, 04/15/2008 - 10:03pm
could run [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/londergan/2416839884/... PCC sets[/url] some 60 years ago, but yet we hold our breath for similar service?
Yeah, but man did they
By oddjob60
Tue, 04/15/2008 - 10:36pm
Yeah, but man did they squeal when they rounded the corner at Boylston!
3xPCC < 2XLRV
By TransitFan
Fri, 04/18/2008 - 9:34am
But a 3 PCC train is still shorter and less capacity than two LRVs. You can't run a three car on the green line until all the station upgrades are done because the platforms are currently shortened to facilitate construction. Still, what we have now is better than the old PCCs. If you want a nostalgia trip, go to Mattapan, but you can't seriously argue that a PCC offered more capacity.
I drive down Belmont Street
By mmurph
Tue, 04/15/2008 - 10:30pm
I drive down Belmont Street in Watertown/Belmont quite a bit and noticed that there appear to be tracks paved over. Does anyone know if the electric buses used to be trolleys on Belmont/Mt Auburn/Watertown/Waverly? Were they ever connected to the rest of the current MBTA system?
Yes, and yes
By Ron Newman
Tue, 04/15/2008 - 10:41pm
The Harvard Square bus tunnel was originally built for trolleys. The Harvard-Watertown line would have connected to the Green Line "A" branch at Watertown Square.
I was doing more poking
By mmurph
Tue, 04/15/2008 - 10:55pm
I was doing more poking around the intertubes and found this neat site with a lot of dreaming about transit expansion in Boston. - http://www.vanshnookenraggen.com/_index/?page_id=4
It also liked to this large image of what once was - http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanshnookenraggen/346...
That map is a nice one, but
By Mark
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 12:05am
That map is a nice one, but it leaves a lot of historical lines out. My grandmother took the streetcar to Nantasket.
Trolleys originating from Boston?
By Emily
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 11:43am
That map is of BERy-administered lines, not suburban ones. Note that railroads, like the Greenbush line (which the Hull trolley ferried passengers to and from) are not displayed.
newton corner
By bostnkid
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 8:50am
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?13976
and more boston stuff
http://world.nycsubway.org/us/boston/
Trolleys
By Bostonian
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 11:17am
That second website you posted, oddly enough maintained by the NYC subways system, was the one I had been looking for. It has pictures of every subway line in Boston and some great shots of "old Boston," including the El. The trolley lines at one time pretty much extended every where a bus line currently goes. They ran through Uphams Corner all the way up Columbia Ave in Dorchester to Franklin Park and all up and down Blue Hill Ave as well. They also ran out washington Street to Roslindale (hence the abandoned MBTA substation at the corner of Cummins Highway - to be refurbished) as well as all the way out to Arlington (hence the identical MBTA substation in Arlington already refurbished). The MBTA's desire to replace trolleys with busses continues, as there was until recently (hope I don't jynx it) talk of putting in a bus line instead of extending the green line to Medford and, of course, there is the Silver Lie and the Arborway busline that still runs on top of the tracks down Centre Street in JP.
Streetcars
By Suldog
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 11:33am
One of my favorite subjects.
The site that bostnkid references is excellent. I'm a buff of subways, and NYC is one of the most fascinating. Lots of great information there on that system, as well as many others.
The section on Mattapan-Ashmont trolleys of the Red Line is particularly good - definitely better than anything the T itself has to offer.
http://world.nycsubway.org/us/boston/mattapan.html
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Great Pictures
By Bostonian
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 1:55pm
That website amazes me every time. Think you have things to complain about on the Orange Line? Take a look at this: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?37164. No, its not from the 40s, its from 1975! Another favorite: The Washington Street EL in the late 70s. Wasn't the South End great back then?! No, it wasn't.
Forgot the Link
By Bostonian
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 1:56pm
I still miss the old El.
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?18438
smiling
By bostnkid
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 2:12pm
that T worker appears to be smiling.they fired him in 1976.
they fired him in 1976
By fenwayguy
Fri, 04/18/2008 - 3:11am
and he's still collecting his disability, pension and benefits. Still smiling, too...
Then you'll like this site...
By Route 66
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 2:00pm
Suldog, I too like subways and streetcars and the site you listed is a fave of mine. Interestingly enough, about 5-7 years ago San Francisco replaced the Boeing light rails with (drum roll, please) Breda cars from Italy! But, unlike the Green Line trains, these models have electric steps which move up and down to accommodate the street level needs out in the neighborhoods and the raised platforms of the underground portion. It's pretty cool. I live on the L-Taraval line, which runs southwest from the Embarcadero to the SF Zoo. It's about 8 miles and terminates 2 blocks from the beach.
http://world.nycsubway.org/us/sf/muni-streetcar.html
http://www.streetcar.org/index.html
This is the site for the Market Street Railway, which is affiliated with the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Authority. (MUNI) The vintage streetcars are from transportation systems across the US, including the PCC cars used in Boston and Philadelphia. They run above ground along Market Street from the Ferry Building to the Castro, and along the Embarcadero to Fisherman's Wharf.
I love the fact that these cars have been given a new lease on life here, and while they are mainly populated by tourists, I'll sometimes pop on one when I just need to get a couple of blocks down Market and the subway below isn't as convenient.
Trolley Museum
By Suldog
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 3:52pm
Thanks for the links, folks.
Have any of you ever visited the Seashore Trolley Museum, in Kennebunkport, Maine? Great place, full of relics I could spend a week exploring. For fans of the absurdist, they have Northampton Street Station up there. Yes, the actual station from the elevated, up there in the Maine woods.
I wrote about the place last year, in connection with my 50th birthday. You might enjoy this.
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com/2007/02/four-dreams-...
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Northhampton Street Station
By bobmetcalf
Wed, 04/16/2008 - 3:56pm
Note the storefront, streelevel: Uncle Ned's Money to Loan
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?32723
Uncle Ned's
By anon
Sun, 12/06/2009 - 9:30am
That was my father's pawn shop and I wonder where I could get a copy of that picture. The (embarrassingly) large car and the man in front might be my father.