First we learned how to pass the state test (called minimum competency back in the day) - then we learned stuff that helped us pass other state tests (called Regents in NY). Was actually a pretty good system - proved you could read and write and do basic arithmetic on the first test - and I think you needed that for your diploma. Then the other tests proved you mastered other specialized skills - like algebra, geometry, trig, biology, chemistry, English, history and even Latin. If you did well on these tests you could get a small scholarship to a state school.
The success of MCAS is undebatable. It's not perfect - but it's one reason our system in Mass is as good as it is. Accountability. I'm not saying a test in and of itself is perfect - it's the accountability part that works so well. If you have a solution to accountability that doesn't include a test - more than happy to hear it. When you look at all those respected Asian systems - every one has high levels of testing (and I know first hand those aren't ideal - but what is).
I came of age well before the MCAS tests, but my science teacher used NY Regents tests as a way to help us hone skills. I have to say, they were really challenging, and if you didn't know your stuff, they'd suss that out right away. Maybe MA should move more in that direction.
(Never thought I'd say that.) He was involved in setting up MCAS and pushed for very high standards. Everyone whined that they couldn't meet those standards but lo and behold most kids ARE now able to pass MCAS and our whole system is better because of these tough tests. Perfect? No way? Are some groups failing more than others? Absolutely. But it's better than no threshold for what a diploma really means.
I just hope these new online tests are as rigorous as MCAS. I bet they are not, but we'll see.
I'm always surprised at how accepting states are of PARCC. No one mentions it's created by a division of Pearson. As in Pearson, the textbook mega giant that designs curriculum and textbooks. Seems like a conflict of interest.
How will a urban districts
handle it online? Many schools have inconsistent Internet service, and many lack the technology to administer to large numbers of students.
A big potential problem with going to the parcc is the lack of reliable computers. Most BPS schools are using hit or miss hp thin clients, the debris of a monumentally bad tech purchase. OIIT, the district's IT department, makes Madison Park look organized.
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Just like BPS to protect the entrenched administrators
Can't have comparable metrics to other school systems for proving the system is failing the children now can we?
You might want to read the article I linked to
Because you'd learn this is not an only-in-Boston thing - in fact, the state could ditch MCAS altogether in a couple years.
Does that headline make sense?
Or maybe it's me....
Clearly not written by somebody who took MCAS ...
Fixed.
So happy I went to private
So happy I went to private school where instead of learning how to pass a state test, we, well, learned stuff.
Well, lucky you.
Many people don't have the choice. And kids still learn things besides how to take tests. I just wish there was less emphasis on the testing.
Me too
First we learned how to pass the state test (called minimum competency back in the day) - then we learned stuff that helped us pass other state tests (called Regents in NY). Was actually a pretty good system - proved you could read and write and do basic arithmetic on the first test - and I think you needed that for your diploma. Then the other tests proved you mastered other specialized skills - like algebra, geometry, trig, biology, chemistry, English, history and even Latin. If you did well on these tests you could get a small scholarship to a state school.
The success of MCAS is undebatable. It's not perfect - but it's one reason our system in Mass is as good as it is. Accountability. I'm not saying a test in and of itself is perfect - it's the accountability part that works so well. If you have a solution to accountability that doesn't include a test - more than happy to hear it. When you look at all those respected Asian systems - every one has high levels of testing (and I know first hand those aren't ideal - but what is).
I came of age well before the
I came of age well before the MCAS tests, but my science teacher used NY Regents tests as a way to help us hone skills. I have to say, they were really challenging, and if you didn't know your stuff, they'd suss that out right away. Maybe MA should move more in that direction.
John Silber was right
(Never thought I'd say that.) He was involved in setting up MCAS and pushed for very high standards. Everyone whined that they couldn't meet those standards but lo and behold most kids ARE now able to pass MCAS and our whole system is better because of these tough tests. Perfect? No way? Are some groups failing more than others? Absolutely. But it's better than no threshold for what a diploma really means.
I just hope these new online tests are as rigorous as MCAS. I bet they are not, but we'll see.
PARCC- is it really better than MCAS?
I'm always surprised at how accepting states are of PARCC. No one mentions it's created by a division of Pearson. As in Pearson, the textbook mega giant that designs curriculum and textbooks. Seems like a conflict of interest.
How will a urban districts
handle it online? Many schools have inconsistent Internet service, and many lack the technology to administer to large numbers of students.
Pearson Education also
Pearson Education also designs online learning suites for the express purpose of performing online testing. That's their job.
A big potential problem with
A big potential problem with going to the parcc is the lack of reliable computers. Most BPS schools are using hit or miss hp thin clients, the debris of a monumentally bad tech purchase. OIIT, the district's IT department, makes Madison Park look organized.