The Herald talks to the daughter of the injured guy in the ambulance that had to be diverted by yesterday's I-93 protest shutdown . She's livid.
Norfolk County DA Michael Morrissey, whose office will prosecute the 11 people arrested in Milton yesterday (including Angela Davis, but, no, not that Angela Davis), says:
The disregard for the safety and welfare of innocent citizens that this action manifests is shocking.
But, hold on a second. Chris Faraone reminds us this isn't the first time I-93 was blocked in both directions for a long period of time. But apparently it's OK as long as it's Tom Cruise and Cameron Diaz making a movie.
Rebecca Hains, a professor at Salem State University, marvels at some people's sudden concern about other people in ambulances, when they normally couldn't care less when ambulances get diverted because our roads suck or the Sox game just got out:
One local mom, Nicole Aliberti, agrees. "I find it disingenuous that people keep complaining about ambulances not being able to get to Boston hospitals due to the protests," Aliberti told me. "I once experienced being in the back of an ambulance that was transporting my critically ill baby in stopped traffic due to a Red Sox game. No one would move out of the way and we had to find another route to the hospital."
She asks: "Why is there outrage about the Black Lives Matter protest, when there is no outrage about this disruption of hospital traffic that happens many times a year?"
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Call me crazy
By anon
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:16am
But I think there's a difference between predetermined stoppage and an unannounced stoppage. Bias much?
You hit it on the nose. And you are not crazy.
By whyaduck
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:38am
Normal traffic back up due to a scheduled Red Sox (and perhaps no car could move out of the ambulance's way due to the congestion?) game is not the same as some fools deciding to make a statement by willingly and knowingly blocking I-93 during rush hour.
your bias is the only difference
By cinnamngrl
Sat, 01/17/2015 - 12:22pm
its ok to block traffic for the redsox you believe the redsox are valid. you believe this protest is not valid so it is unacceptable to block traffic.
Of course, the redsox are awesome but what could be a bigger example of anarchy than people too selfish to pull over ambulance because of a game?
It is dishonest for people to say that they would care more about the cause if the protest was less inconvenient.
The Hypocrisy of these anarchists is amazing.
By bulgingbuick
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:22am
Watch it here:http://instagram.com/p/x5MzmwuT17/?modal=true&utm_...
A lot of people are missing the point of yesterday
By John Costello
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:02am
These actions were a declaration of war on people like myself; tubby white person who doesn't live in the urban core but commutes into it for work. It was as if the song Mr. Clean by The Jam became kinetic.
Their manifesto sort of cloaked the language but they basically said that suburbanites are trespassers in the City Of Boston and all the perceived other urban areas such as Somerville and Cambridge which make up the urban inner ring.
The actions yesterday weren't about Black Lives Matter. This was Trotskyite actions by Occupy Boston. They want to mess with the economic health of my nuclear family and others to support their anarchist agenda.
For every action there is reaction. I now fully support the means of oppression against these people. I sense we are heading towards a Seattle 1999 situation in the city, except there will be pushback. This is still Boston after all. It's my city too.
The ironic thing
By anon
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:23am
"These actions were a declaration of war on people like myself; tubby white person who doesn't live in the urban core but commutes into it for work."
The ironic thing (and oh how hipsters love irony), is that most, if not all, of the protesters are also "tubby white people", trust fund kids going to the Museum of Fine Arts school, etc, and I seriously doubt many of them are native Bostonians. They were well insulated against the cold with their expensive clothing. Perhaps, while they were at it, they should have showed solidarity with the homeless by dressing in the inadequate clothing that the homeless often have and then exposing themselves to the weather. The protesters need to raise their consciousness and see the bigger picture. Dreadlocks and beards do not a hipster make.
You are right on many levels
By John Costello
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 10:56am
One of the protesters had an address of Colburne Crescent in Brookline, the street of the $5,600 per month 4 bed rental and the $1,750,000 houses. The same person also supports Chelsea FC, which is like supporting Marlborough Street and Beacon Street if they had a Premier League team.
The FB profiles you can get into on the arrested show London, Norwich, VT (Dartmouth Faculty Heavy), Dallas, and Hanson as hometowns. Hanson of all places. However, If I grew up on that street in Hanson I'd be a wee pissed off at society as well. Its Scratchie City meets Jet Ski on Blocks.
Nevertheless, it takes a lot of balls to pontificate that somehow when you are living up on a hill in Brookline you are somehow being oppressed by me.
You've made some very good points that're well taken, anon, but
By mplo
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 12:03pm
I would not go around attacking people who have trust funds, etc. Not everybody with trust funds, etc., participated in that crap that went on yesterday.
The irony is that on the
By gotdatwmd
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 12:31pm
The irony is that on the website where the manifesto was posted they are soliciting donations for the bail fund, as if these kids aren't loaded already.
Je Suis John Costello!
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:33am
Commisioner Evans confirms this was an Occupy/anarchist protest
By El Danimal
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:33am
http://www.wcvb.com/news/boston-police-commr-evans...
Meaning?
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:36am
Meaning?
Oh, wait ANARCHISTS ... like the ones who blew up the Molasses tank?
First they shoot McKinley
By Michael
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:57am
Now this
Well
By El Danimal
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 10:42am
according to Evans, "This isn't a normal group that's been operating in the city. This was again an Occupy anarchist movement who was hell-bent on causing problems and they used it in the name of Black Lives Matter", so it would appear to mean their goal is to cause general disruption and to make headlines
not really.
By tape
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:40am
Evans knows that Occupy doesn't exist anymore. If he doesn't, he's a real moron and has no business being in charge of a police force.
Are you soft?
By relaxyapsycho
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:48am
Evans made his name during the Occupy protests. Lots of the protesters spoke with him personally. They knew him by name and him theirs. He now recognizes some of the same protesters.
What's the problem?
"Occupy doesn't exist anymore"
By anon
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:51am
But the idiots from occupy do! They've been involved in EVERY hot topic protest since!
I think
By El Danimal
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:52am
I'll take his word and opinion over yours
Again, I disagree with you here, tape.
By mplo
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 12:07pm
Frankly, I think that BPD Commissioner Evans was absolutely spot on with his points.
Occupy Boston?
By tape
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:38am
hasn't existed for 3 years.
Did it ever really exist?
By Infrared image ...
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:25pm
....more than a day or so? Didn't a news crew with an infrared detector prove that those tents at dewey square were mostly empty?
Yes, it existed
By adamg
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:28pm
Which I say as somebody who spent some time down there while it did (no, I didn't sleep in a tent there).
Trotskyite? Trotting out the Red Scare?
By anon
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:49am
When did the Cold War with the god hating Roosians resume?
I finally read the manifesto, too
By Waquiot
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:50am
They are stretching at some of their points. They note some people who died at the hands of the police in the past 15 years- one died when the cops returned fire, another shot while lunging at the cops with a knife after slitting her 2 kids throats, another shot after pointing the gun just used to kill someone at the cops down in the theater district. I didn't read up on them all, but I did find one fatality where the cops could be faulted- the passenger in a car shot at by the police after the driver struck another officer. Surprisingly, no mention of Victoria Snelgrove or David Woodman, so apparently white lives don't matter.
As the link below notes, these morons are taking away from an important issue.
Link to manifesto
By Ron Newman
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 10:07am
I've seen a couple of commenters here say they read a manifesto, but it isn't (directly, at least) linked from Adam's news item. Can you provide a link to this document?Edited to add: Never mind, found it here (linked from Adam's previous report)
Adam
By JPNative617
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:26am
Do you really agree with the actions of these protestors? The narrative from all your stories written on them seems to justify the behavior or just flat out making excuses for them.
If you do, that's fine, just curious.
Everyone is wrong
By BostonDog
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:34am
It's possible to disagree with the protesters AND the people over reacting to the bad traffic.
I don't entirely agree with you here, BostonDog.
By mplo
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 12:15pm
Blocking an interstate highway, where there's a speed limit of 55 miles per hour and/or more is endangering people's lives, no matter how anybody looks at it.
I don't know
By adamg
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:39am
On the one hand, yes, they're bringing attention to an issue that I think exists (not in Boston, fortunately, but there's a lot of country past 128) and that many people are ignoring.
On the other hand, they, or maybe it's their supporters, come across as a bunch of whiny gits who don't really grasp the concept of "civil disobedience" and who should stop playing revolutionaries if they're unwilling to accept the consequences that come with that. Reread (or read for the first time) Letter from Birmingham Jail and think about what civil disobedience means, really means and that part of that involves the potential for arrest and that part of that means at least attempting a dialog with people such as, oh, Marty Walsh, and not just randomly chaining yourself into concrete barrels and then complaining about the "global Panopticon" arresting the people who returned the truck you used.
So, now you know where I'm coming from. And that having been said, you betcha there's anonymous crap I'm just going to use the delete checkbox for: You want to channel your inner Howie Carr and crack about a protester's weight, you want to express the wish that next time a truck run these people over, you want to just verbally spit in the face of people who post here? There are plenty of places where you can do that. This, however, is not one of them.
Sure, there's lots of country outside 128, I-93, etc.
By mplo
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 12:18pm
Why don't the protestors go out to the bedroom communities outside the state and interstate highways to protest, then?
sounds great
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 12:38pm
I'd truly love it if they would screw things up in Wilmington, given the disproportionate rate of youth soccer players from there who are suspended for racial slurs.
I see where you're coming from, Adam, but I don't totally
By mplo
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 1:59pm
agree with you.
People who've engaged in Civil Disobedience, including MLK Junior, due to a genuine belief in the cause(s) that they espouse, have realized that there are often consequences (i. e. jail, fines, etc., ) and have accepted the consequences of their lawbreaking willingly.
These particular protestors, especially those of yesterday who insisted on blocking I-93, are a totally different breed, and not in a positive way, either. They seem to not realize, or don't want to realize these consequences, and whine and cry when they get arrested. Well, I've got no sympathy for the protestors who blocked I-93, because, imho, they don't deserve it. If they get arrest records that follow them for the rest of their lives, and either lose their scholarships, etc., as a result, too bad for them.
Did you read what I read?
By adamg
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 2:01pm
Because you basically just agreed with me on the consequences of civil disobedience.
Local rescue crews....
By RichM
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:28am
know to use Hunnington Ave to Longwood during Red Sox games. It's not like the park opened yesterday.
Life, Death, and Traffic
By BostonDog
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:32am
If the difference between life and death is traffic on the southeast expressway we're all doomed. As the traffic hackers pointed out yesterday, the traffic was bad but it wasn't the worst nor are levels this bad all that uncommon.
I think it's a failed protest but I do support the movement. When the police kill someone without just cause it barely makes the news. But if there is some bad not-entirely-unexpected traffic on I-93 which hurt no one (apart from time), THAT's a reason to be outraged?
Maybe its me but during sox
By MR
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:41am
Maybe its me but during sox gridlock there is eventually a way for ambulances to break through as people pull to the side even on storrow but when you have every lane blocked there is no chance for anyone to pull over and make a hole.
Sigh
By relaxyapsycho
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:43am
I don't want to go down this rabbit hole, no one was killed without just cause.
I'll concede there is an argument to be made on Eric Garner's behalf, but if you or I were placed in that same choke hold we'd still be alive (unless your 300 lbs and have chronic asthma...)
Read the news
By BostonDog
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:51am
I agree the Ferguson case is a bad example. But one doesn't need to look far to find examples of police using excessive force. BPD has been in the news as of late for using beanbag guns to subdue people that in other cities would have likely been shot, which is good. If the nationwide protests result in police opting for non-lethal methods of control first then the protests would have achieved something.
I do agree the blocking of I-93 was a stupid stunt. I just don't see it as being worth the outrage.
Nice Victim Blaming
By Felicity
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 10:00am
So if you're fat or have a medical condition you deserve to die?
Garner communicated to the cops that he couldn't breathe. He died and the cops stood around like assholes. I mean honestly, don't cops know CPR?
Aaaa
By anon
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 10:11am
He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance with the EMTs not on the street with the cops. #FactsMatter
Also if you're twelve
By Mollynotloggedin
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 10:13am
You should definitely be left to die in front of your family instead of having first aid performed.
Did the laws change?
By Mollynotloggedin
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 10:12am
Because last I was aware, the death penalty could only be issued by a jury of one's peers after a trial, not by a police officer in the heat of the moment.
I was also unaware that the consequences for petty theft and similar crimes was now immediate death.
"Just cause"
By erik g
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 10:17am
You keep using that word.
Let them sit there.
By Scoob
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:33am
Let me relay a suggestion on what to do next time they try this: Bring in heavy equipment. Use it to pick up the barrels with the smelly protestors attached. Deposit them on the side of the road and let them sit there. They got themselves into the barrels, they can get themselves out. It then becomes their(protestors) problem, not the commuter's. If they are still there come springtime, they can become a tourist attraction.
What makes you think they are
By Carty
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:05am
What makes you think they are "smelly"?
Oh, right, it's your contempt. Guess what, you were contemptuous before the protest, you are not their target. Dude, it's not about *you*.
That they reportedly wore
By tenfortyseven
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 10:39am
That they reportedly wore diapers so they could contentedly crap their pants is enough for me to presume that they are indeed smelly.
Depends ... on who you ask
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 11:52am
I'm sure the cops were glad that they didn't have to handle people with uncontained biology.
Outdated 1960s cliches do not apply
By anon
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 11:45am
Although I do not agree with the protesters, I equally dislike this default mechanism of using outdated 1960s terms like "hippies" and "smelly protesters" every time something like this happens? Howie Carr used the term "hippies" for the protesters three or four times in his column today. Honestly, aren't the old people he is intentionally trying to get a visceral, lowest common denominator reaction from by pejoratively using this term long dead? They were old THEN, let alone now. The same thing happened during the Occupy fiasco. The occupiers were referred to as "hippies", as if they suddenly emerged intact in a time machine from 1969. The protesters yesterday are no more "hippies" than Howie Carr is, and, diapers notwithstanding, we have no reason to assume they are "smelly", especially given their privileged status in life.
You know
By cybah
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 8:34am
You know, I used to like Chris Faraone... but ever since I started following him on twitter, I've come to realize what a total toolbag he really is. He'll snap on to any movement as long as it suits him or is a news story for him to write about. Talk about someone who an opportunist.
Secondly, its not like a movie set just all of a sudden on Thursday morning during rush hour decided to shoot a movie without any warning. A movie set has been approved by the state months in advance...
And as far as the mom's comment. Unimportant. Same reasoning as I stated above. RedSox game is going to yield traffic. Any idiot who has lived in the city longer than 2 seconds during a sox game knows this. Again people know about sox games [i] in advance [/i], shame on that ambulance driver for not knowing this and not going a different way.
I don't know what kind of
By anon
Fri, 01/16/2015 - 9:23am
I don't know what kind of utopia you live in where rush hour traffic yields to ambulances hand over fist, but most time I've seen it happen people were very reluctant to move. Maybe because there was nowhere to move due to our highly-congested roadways.
So I'll say something controversial: as far as the commentary from the daughter of the injured guy in the ambulance - unimportant. She is being used by the media and the cops because there's someone to blame, someone the state wants to paint in a very negative light. How many times do we hear about ambulances diverted due to traffic jams caused by roadwork?
I am not going to debate whether what these guys did is stupid or not, but I'll say this: it takes balls (and a little crazy) to get off the couch and do what they did, stand up for their beliefs. But us, let's keep posting useless commentary on the internet.
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