Councilors vote to back 12 new liquor licenses at Dorchester mall
The Boston City Council today approved asking the state to let the city issue 12 new liquor licenses for restaurants and a cineplex at the South Bay Town Center project in Dorchester, saying the licenses are critical to bringing the sort of home-grown restaurants that will make the center take off.
But the council decided not to seek three liquor licenses for the massive Seaport Square project in the South Boston Waterfront, following a hearing at which councilors questioned the need for a stimulus in an area that is already booming.
The number of liquor licenses in Boston is capped by the state legislature. If Mayor Walsh signs off on the measure, it will go to the legislature as a home-rule petition.
City Councilor Bill Linehan (South Boston) did not contest the decision to lop the Seaport Square licenses off the request, but warned that if its developers go out on the open market and buy licenses - at prices above $300,000, they will likely come from smaller, less ritzy neighborhoods. Linehan did not mention that the Boston Licensing Board still has some liquor licenses that can be used in those outer neighborhoods - but which cannot be resold.
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building a mall so distant from frequent mass transit makes no sense. the BPDA is applying ideas from the 1960's
Not a Mall
It's a self contained neighborhood, along the lines of Reston Town Center in Virgina.
Work / Sleep / Play
Having visited Reston and several other of these places popping up, its not such a bad idea. Especially since it focuses on moving in residents and tries to focus pedestrian traffic to support the ground level retail. Only difference here is there will be spillover to the surround area if it's successful.
Plus eventually everything between South Bay and Fort Point will eventually be a new city neighborhood. It's just going to take longer after developers were unable to take it in eminent domain shrouded by the Boston Olympics.
Okay, an inside-out mall with
Okay, an inside-out mall with some housing. Where is the T? The live/work/play scenario would further reinforce the need for transportation to become a viable place.
Reston, VA b. 1960's
well
if the T/Keolis ever gets its act in gear and/or we ever get EMU/DMUs, the Newmarket stop behind Stop & Shop on the Fairmont line could very well serve this new complex. Its not that far of a walk, you just need to walk across the shopping center. Plus its not that far of a walk to Andrew station either.
The shuttle
There is a shuttle bus that goes between Andrew Sq and South Bay. Unfortunately, it's sporadic at best and nonexistent at worst - I've learned not to ever rely on it actually being in service. If they could somehow improve that shuttle schedule and make it more reliable, that would really help.
In the meantime, I live off of Boston St, near the Verizon building - they've been digging things up and playing with endless big piles of dirt out there for several months now. I assume that eventually that will all turn into something related to this new mall area, but in the meantime it really feels like the adult equivalent of little boys playing with trucks lol. To be honest, it's really annoying.
T
It's a 12 min walk from Andrew station.
It's actually not that far
It's actually not that far from Andrew Sq (1/2 mi), Newmarket commuter rail and lots of bus access too. Plus there is quite a bit of parking for those that drive.