Normally I wouldn't want to come off as nit-picky and would let this slide, but in the interest of finding the dog, there is no such thing as a golden lab. Someone who hears this word-of-mouth without a photo may not know if they should be looking for a golden retriever or a yellow lab. Chief here is a yellow lab.
Actually Adam, that person is an idiot. A golden lab certainly exists. It is a cross between a golden retriever and a lab. This dog may well be a yellow lab, but to say Golden labs don’t exist is 100% false
Golden lab, yellow lab, the chances that anyone doesn't get the point are vanishingly small. As if someone's going to say, "Oh that lost-looking dog is a YELLOW lab and I was told to be on the lookout for a GOLDEN lab so forget this one", or vice versa.
Maybe it's the innocence of both. But doing harm to either makes me want to march the person off a pier into very deep, cold and choppy water. If they make it back then prison time doing the dirtiest work. If they don't make it back in time that's one less (I can't finish that without sounding crazier).
For as much as I believe that death penalty is just legitimized murder, this sort of thing makes me sick to my stomach.
Would each day in the stocks in the Common, in the shade, with rotting tomatoes sold at a $1.00 a tomato, be a good start to punishment? Rehabilitation and redemption make us every one on both sides of the bar of justice better people. But I still wonder whether the sting of shameful, embarrassing and slightly painful punishment prior to the rehabilitation, or retraining, can help make the point to anyone who violates basic laws. Do harm, break the law and receive mercy to help them not break the law again. But the mercy is not without a certain immediate sting.
Or maybe be a flogging of their buttocks in the Common. Just something that leaves a lasting impression. Mercy and punishment. Emphasis on the mercy and loving redemption; but not without the sting of punishment.
It's my understanding that you don't leave dogs (or children) alone/unattended inside a car....at no time.
And, it's not just because it might be hot weather, but because there are other factors (such as carbon monoxide asphyxiation or dehydration,cold exposure, etc.
Additionally, the "health and safety of an animal" can be broad in interpretation. There might be legal precedence for litigation if an animal is left confined to a car and consequently remain subjected to abuse by, say, some crazy passers-by perhaps, who might find it fun to subject the animal to dangerous stress leading to life-threatening trauma.
The law about this are getting very strict, similar to child neglect and abuse (which covers more than just leaving the child in a car in a hot day. Suffocation is a real danger.
As a pet owner, I've been learning a lot the last few years. It's currently my understanding that, while maybe not illegal, it's unwise to leave my dog in the car alone even if I'm stopping into to grab a loaf of bread or a six-pack.
I encourage all pet owners to familiarize yourselves with not only the laws, but with the commonsense that your pet IS your responsibility, come what may.
And, as an aside, I think you might discover that, unfortunately, the ass-hole thief who took the car with the dog in the first place, might be able to arrange a reasonable defense (with the right lawyer, LOL) that the dog shouldn't have been left in the car in the first place. The thief actually might get away with this as his defense against the additional charge of 'dog-napping'.
1. They were on a way to/from a very long walk with a dog and stopped for few minutes max
2. It wasn't a cold nor hot day
3. Big dogs are not allowed inside
4. Someone could be allergic to a dog so it's better to keep him inside the car
and more importantly, they are big animals and can handle elements. Don't be oversensitive.
Each of my dogs lived 15+ years on average and I left them in the car many times.
A dog won't be hurt in the slightest if left alone in a car for a few hours provided the temperature if moderated and there's some reasonable air circulation. The woman did nothing wrong and she (and her pet) are the victim or a crime.
I am constantly amazed at how often this happens, people leave the engine running to pop into the store for some scratchies, into Dunks, the Post Office, etc. I don't want to blame the victim but...the dog and the car aside, too often these things turn into dangerous car chases and other foolishness, please don't do this.
As an aside, the guy who took it looked pretty chill, an older guy, not a kid on a whim.
consider to be irresponsible - like leaving the engine running and the car unlocked because they're too lazy to shut the car off and lock it - that directly facilitates the crime, IMO they deserve to be blamed. Once upon a time, we used to have this thing called contributory negligence - perhaps it's time we re-introduced the concept.
It is never a good idea to have live animals (including kids) in a car that can be activated like that.
Remote starters lock everything out and are a good safety and anti-theft feature. If you insist on running the car with the critter in it when you do errands, it is only responsible to get one.
If it was your child, would you be talking so glibly?
A pet IS YOUR responsibility, (even if there are ass-holes out there)
(Like it or not, the judge will probably lose some sympathy for the victim because of some minor distraction that forced the owner to leave the dog in the car.)
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Hopefully the thief will have
Hopefully the thief will have a heart and not harm the dog.
Hopefully he knows his way home
Good chance the thief will just drop the dog off someplace. Hopefully someone will find him and contact his owner.
Normally I wouldn't want to
Normally I wouldn't want to come off as nit-picky and would let this slide, but in the interest of finding the dog, there is no such thing as a golden lab. Someone who hears this word-of-mouth without a photo may not know if they should be looking for a golden retriever or a yellow lab. Chief here is a yellow lab.
Thanks
Fixed.
Actually Adam, that person is
Actually Adam, that person is an idiot. A golden lab certainly exists. It is a cross between a golden retriever and a lab. This dog may well be a yellow lab, but to say Golden labs don’t exist is 100% false
Who cares?
Golden lab, yellow lab, the chances that anyone doesn't get the point are vanishingly small. As if someone's going to say, "Oh that lost-looking dog is a YELLOW lab and I was told to be on the lookout for a GOLDEN lab so forget this one", or vice versa.
...and a Golden/Lab can look
...and a Golden/Lab can look a lot like a Yellow Lab from many angles, depending on the particular animal and how well you keep it groomed.
Dogs and children. Don't mess with either.
Maybe it's the innocence of both. But doing harm to either makes me want to march the person off a pier into very deep, cold and choppy water. If they make it back then prison time doing the dirtiest work. If they don't make it back in time that's one less (I can't finish that without sounding crazier).
For as much as I believe that death penalty is just legitimized murder, this sort of thing makes me sick to my stomach.
Would each day in the stocks in the Common, in the shade, with rotting tomatoes sold at a $1.00 a tomato, be a good start to punishment? Rehabilitation and redemption make us every one on both sides of the bar of justice better people. But I still wonder whether the sting of shameful, embarrassing and slightly painful punishment prior to the rehabilitation, or retraining, can help make the point to anyone who violates basic laws. Do harm, break the law and receive mercy to help them not break the law again. But the mercy is not without a certain immediate sting.
Or maybe be a flogging of their buttocks in the Common. Just something that leaves a lasting impression. Mercy and punishment. Emphasis on the mercy and loving redemption; but not without the sting of punishment.
Yes, (but....)
Excuse me, but am I missing something here?
It's my understanding that you don't leave dogs (or children) alone/unattended inside a car....at no time.
And, it's not just because it might be hot weather, but because there are other factors (such as carbon monoxide asphyxiation or dehydration,cold exposure, etc.
So, the question is,
why was the dog left in the car?
That's not my understanding at all
Of course you can leave dogs in cars for short periods on 60 degree days.
The world is getting crazy where we're seriously equating the treatment of pets with human children.
"A lawyer we have here, do we?! LOL"
I can appreciate your wishful thinking about caring for a dog.
However, it's not so easily dismissed, what a pet-owner might be liable for.
I think if you check the books, notably the laws regarding temperature endangerment, you'll discover that temperatures below 60' can apply as well
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Sect...
Additionally, the "health and safety of an animal" can be broad in interpretation. There might be legal precedence for litigation if an animal is left confined to a car and consequently remain subjected to abuse by, say, some crazy passers-by perhaps, who might find it fun to subject the animal to dangerous stress leading to life-threatening trauma.
The law about this are getting very strict, similar to child neglect and abuse (which covers more than just leaving the child in a car in a hot day. Suffocation is a real danger.
As a pet owner, I've been learning a lot the last few years. It's currently my understanding that, while maybe not illegal, it's unwise to leave my dog in the car alone even if I'm stopping into to grab a loaf of bread or a six-pack.
I encourage all pet owners to familiarize yourselves with not only the laws, but with the commonsense that your pet IS your responsibility, come what may.
And, as an aside, I think you might discover that, unfortunately, the ass-hole thief who took the car with the dog in the first place, might be able to arrange a reasonable defense (with the right lawyer, LOL) that the dog shouldn't have been left in the car in the first place. The thief actually might get away with this as his defense against the additional charge of 'dog-napping'.
I can think of few reasons...
I can think of few reasons...
1. They were on a way to/from a very long walk with a dog and stopped for few minutes max
2. It wasn't a cold nor hot day
3. Big dogs are not allowed inside
4. Someone could be allergic to a dog so it's better to keep him inside the car
and more importantly, they are big animals and can handle elements. Don't be oversensitive.
Each of my dogs lived 15+ years on average and I left them in the car many times.
Give it a rest
A dog won't be hurt in the slightest if left alone in a car for a few hours provided the temperature if moderated and there's some reasonable air circulation. The woman did nothing wrong and she (and her pet) are the victim or a crime.
Dumb
How about just leaving the dog at home. People are so naive.
She did do something wrong.
She left her car unlocked and running with a dog in it.
She could have turned the car off, opened the windows, and locked her doors and we wouldn't be reading about this right now.
How do you know that?
Nothing in the story says she left the car running and unlocked. If that true, yeah, bonehead move.
That was the story I got.
Guy walks up to car, opens the door and takes off.
Well, she did.
She made a mistake and it cost her, her car and her dog.
Beat me to it!
I am constantly amazed at how often this happens, people leave the engine running to pop into the store for some scratchies, into Dunks, the Post Office, etc. I don't want to blame the victim but...the dog and the car aside, too often these things turn into dangerous car chases and other foolishness, please don't do this.
As an aside, the guy who took it looked pretty chill, an older guy, not a kid on a whim.
it never fails
But you do.
When the victim does something that most people would
consider to be irresponsible - like leaving the engine running and the car unlocked because they're too lazy to shut the car off and lock it - that directly facilitates the crime, IMO they deserve to be blamed. Once upon a time, we used to have this thing called contributory negligence - perhaps it's time we re-introduced the concept.
So who would you blame if Chief knocked the shifter?
Set the vehicle in motion? Somebody got killed?
It is never a good idea to have live animals (including kids) in a car that can be activated like that.
Remote starters lock everything out and are a good safety and anti-theft feature. If you insist on running the car with the critter in it when you do errands, it is only responsible to get one.
Answering that question doesn't find the dog
The question remains, where is the dog?
Go judge somewhere else. You're not helping.
Also, check out the previous
Also, check out the previous ordinance of the City of Boston:
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Sect...
(2) taunting, prodding, hitting, harassing, threatening or otherwise harming a tethered or confined dog; and
(3) subjecting a dog to dangerous conditions etc.
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Sect...
If it was your child, would you be talking so glibly?
A pet IS YOUR responsibility, (even if there are ass-holes out there)
(Like it or not, the judge will probably lose some sympathy for the victim because of some minor distraction that forced the owner to leave the dog in the car.)