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Car hits two pedestrians in Mattapan, one a child who died as the driver ran away
By adamg on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 11:18pm
UPDATE: Dorchester man arrested.
Shortly before 11 p.m. outside 100 W. Selden St. One of the victims, just 8, died, WBZ reports.
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An arrest has been made:
An arrest has been made:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/06/07/arrest-made-in-mattapan-hit-and-ru...
Her name was Yadielys Deleon Camacho
Brian Browne attended the impromptu memorial for her on West Selden Street today, where another mourner held up her picture and people gathered to lay down mementos.
Update: Driver arrested
James Horton, 45, of Dorchester, was arrested by Boston police and will be arraigned in court Monday.
No word if the unsupervised children were wearing helmets, using required headlight, or illegally shared bicycle had required reflectors.... or why not in bed at 11 PM.
Glad to see that the death of a child
doesn't stop you from your blatant and pitiful attention seeking.
Wrong
This is a tragic opportunity to learn from. Your first instinct may be narcissistic, but we need to ask how senseless deaths like this can be prevented. We have laws to reduce such deaths for good reason, and here is an example why. I deleted the second part of my original comment, which is why it was a little behind the first one. I'll include it here: "No word on if any parent(s) were arrested for child endangerment". BTW, from video of the scene taken last night, the bike looks black and no reflectors are visible from the camera angle.
But, thanks for having a good Christian attitude and throwing stones when I ask for information.
Way to blame the victims...
The driver of the car did this, not his victims.
Kids never dart out into traffic
and people never blame smokers for getting emphysema and lung cancer. Nah, never happens. Public opinion elsewhere is generally blaming the parent(s).
Standing on other peoples'
Standing on other peoples' children's coffins as a soap box is a new low even for you.
Opportunity to attack me
is what a few of you seem to wait for. I try to point out how people acting unsafely have tragic consequences and trolls see it as an opportunity to personally attack me. Nice.
Whoa!
Did it ever enter your mind that the driver was either drunk or high or both?
Keep digging
You do realize that the children were on the sidewalk when they were hit, right?
Right?
You better check that claim
Since there was no parental supervision or witnesses, its hard to tell where the kids were. The crash scene shows the bicycle in the middle of the street and the car on the sidewalk, likely from having swerved trying to avoid the kids. Its less likely that a car traveling down the sidewalk threw the kids and bike into the road. Police will do an accident reconstruction, so no speculation needed.
Nope
Several reports that the driver (and friend of yours?) hit a parked car and veered onto the sidewalk.
Got some new laws of physics?
to explain how that put the kids and the bike into the road? Different laws in the Swirly universe?
Dude, go away...
You have to know by now that literally no one on this site has any respect for your opinions.
This was genuinely news to me
This was genuinely news to me so thanks for posting it.
I have seen bikes and pedestrians do some really suicidal things at night even when I'm puttering through my neighborhood at low speed and something like this is my ultimate nightmare scenario. I admit I was harboring some uncomfortable thoughts due to a mistaken image of kids running wild in the street in the middle of the night (which still would not excuse the hit-and-run).
But hitting kids on a sidewalk, yeah, there's no way to even feel conflicted about this.
And people who slam into kids on a bike, pinning 1 under the car
Never run away from the scene ...
Did you hear about the driver who stopped
after hitting and killing the 2 year old who ran out in front of his van in an African-American neighborhood? Yeah, the boy's uncle got a gun and then murdered the driver. Perhaps that was on the mind of the driver. Or perhaps what happened to the NYC man who hit the motorcyclist while trying to flee and got beaten up.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/12/milwaukee-accident-...
People do panic under stress and running is a reaction to stress. Its instinctual but wrong, and can be understood.
how
How can an American neighborhood be African? Was the neighborhood originally from Africa?
Then the driver must have called the police immediately...
...right?
If he fled because he feared for his life then he must have either called the cops right away. Is that what happened ?
Still the driver's fault...
Plus he fled the scene, so you really have no where to go on this one. But, your ego must be fed so you have to keep replying.
Look
You could be a chess Grand Master, but you play chess with a pigeon, the pigeon is going to knock over all the pieces, shit all over the board, and strut about like it's won.
Best leave the bird-brains alone.
A "good Christian attitude"
would be to ask your God to watch over this little angel and all like her who die senselessly. Then you might ask your God's forgiveness for using the death of a little child to further your negative attention seeking.
You're a very sick man and I've known murderers with more class than you.
Arlington is overrun with hypocrites
often driving their Prius'es (if not bicycling), complete with Liz Warren stickers, think themselves better than everyone else, and always the first to make judgement on other people. Thanks for the example by your eagerness to attack me.
Arlington?
I thought this incident took place in Mattapan. Why are you referring to Arlington?
He needs a frame of reference
considering I doubt he's ever been to Mattapan. Also, I drive a Yaris, live in Belmont and am smarter than some, but better than none.
Forgive me for having parents who taught me to respect the death of someone's child.
Nonsense
You're better than Markk.
Hold on there...
What were an 8-year old and a 12-year old doing out in the streets at that hour?
Why does it matter?
Or, moreover, why is it any of your business?
It takes a village...
Seriously.
I'm going to go out on a limb
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess most parents would not allow an 8 year old to be out at 11pm.
Does that mean the child was at fault? No. Does that absolve the (alleged) perpetrator of the crime? No. But the parent/guardian/babysitter has some responsibility here too.
and by "out in the streets" you mean....
....in their own driveway?
More victim blaming...
Do you do the same thing with sexual assault cases? "If she hadn't been out alone that late wearing what she was wearing..."???
Do you blame cigarette smokers?
who are victims of lung cancer? Sure you do, hypocrite.
If this guy drove into the house
And crushed this child in her bed, you would be the first to blame the family for letting the kids sleep in a front room.
All the fault and all the responsibility lie with the driver. Full. Fucking. Stop.
Straw Man Alert!
Of course not - that's an unreasonable expectation silly. Parents are responsible for putting helmets on their kids for bicycling and having reflectors and a headlight on their bikes. Parents are also responsible for the safety and upbringing of their kids, or then DCF becomes responsible for them. But, then too, DCF seems to lose some.
Not a straw man
A reality. You want a world that is entirely "safe" for drivers, no matter what their level of impairment, to zoom around at whatever speed they like without any responsibility or consequences whatsoever.
Makes me wonder if you fear an impaired driving charge or something - or that you will hit something while driving in a less than alert state.
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Just go away
Given the reputation you have created for yourself here, the chances that your continuing to post will change anyone's mind about anything are, I would suggest, less than zero.
Maybe the real you is a perfectly reasonable guy, but the online persona you have created here is an object of loathing and disgust.
Time to just retire it and move on.
I agree with you on retirement of the name
Most readers seem to disable their rational brain functions the instant they encounter my user name, so whatever I write is then completely lost and turned upside down by them. It is they who have formed this on-line persona by making claims about what I think or say, rather than what I actually have. Their trolling has escalated to where they continue to fabricate ever new details to their character.
To them, its almost as if I were in the driver's seat of every car that ever killed a pedestrian or cyclist, and if not, I am appointed defender of them. Instead, I just try to understand the human fallibility and hope that we might compensate for this human nature to reduce harm.
That didn't take long
.
Look at the picture here and please shut up
http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/2-Critically-Injured-After-Incident...
Looks like the kids were at home, probably in their yard or on the sidewalk, and the car plowed in to them.
I mean, maybe the Always Wave Away Drivers' Recklessness Police will cite the family for not installing warning lights, speed bumps, radar detectors, crash barricades, and sirens around their home, or that clearly parents should clad their children in titanium exoskeletons if they want to play outside at night in a residential neighborhood, but just maaaaaayyyybbbee you're a contrarian concern trolling jerk who has literally said nothing useful in the entire history of the Internet.
Where the car came to rest
Not that I don't find Markkk's opinions completely abhorrent, but interpretations of a single photo can only take you so far. Per WCVB, that's where the car came to rest, after hitting, in this order:
-the kids on a bike, in the street
-a parked car
-the sidewalk
-a fence
http://www.wcvb.com/news/children-riding-bike-struck-by-hitandrun-driver...
My deepest condolences to the family. This is a horrible tragedy.
Any word if they failed to
Any word if they failed to get off your lawn, too?
OK, now I'm convinced
That Mark K is just some elaborate gimmick account. He's posting with tongue firmly in cheek. Right?
Dear jerk:
Dear jerk:
Maybe you haven't noticed, but that part of Boston is home to many immigrants from nations south of our own. Nations where the air is hot and the people unable to use air conditioning.
There are many parts of the world where a nocturnal way of life is in no way disreputable. If you visit Devon Avenue in Chicago, you'll see lots of Indian families outside at 10PM, doing nothing different from what we do. If you visit their towns of origin in India, you might note that a lot of hard work gets done in the wee hours of the morning, because it's the only time such work can be done safely.
Now, it is true that such immigrants need to adapt to our way of life when they come here, for the simple reason that our drunk drivers can demonstrably crush their innocent children. It is also true that you should get a clue, a sense of class and dignity, and not be so quick to cast aspersions.
Oh, my god--what the hell is wrong with people??
It's bad enough that the driver of the car that hit the parent and child hit the two pedestrians to begin with, but doing something as illegal and unethical as fleeing the scene of something like this makes this an even more macabre situation. The fact that the 8 year old child died after being hit by the automobile makes things way worse. I hope the driver of the car that hit the child and the adult accompanying him goes to jail for a really long time.
You seem confused
There was no parent present with the child that was hit and killed. They were likely not pedestrians, but both on one bicycle also. The bike has rear foot pegs for standing on, so one child could be seated and one standing. Not sure what accident you are thinking of or those who are clicking thumbs up.
Sure, fleeing the scene is
Sure, fleeing the scene is illegal, but unethical? It's rational behavior to try to not get caught when you're at fault.
Yes, unethical
You've just done something horrible. You have an ethical responsibility to help the person you've just hit.
Impressive how absolutely perfect so many UHub visitors are
I'm glad to see the influx of society's betters here, the people who could not possibly conceive of a family having a party in their backyard, let alone children being allowed to stay up for it on a Saturday night, and whose immediate thoughts are not "Oh, my God, that poor child, that poor family!" but rather "When are they bringing the parents up on child-endangerment charges!" because our society would just be in so much better shape if everybody followed your perfect, shining examples of rectitude, of the sort that comes only from expunging every last bit of human decency from your cold, bitter, empty hearts.
I know, right?
And yet some of these same folks are often the first to whine about how "infantilized" young adults are - as if there were no connection with these bizarre upper middle class "standards" of parenting that the rest of the world thinks are totally nuts.
To be fair, there's another side of this
I have very, very little sympathy for someone who hits someone else with his or her car then takes off, but isn't there also a rush to say the driver was completely at fault. I mean, the time of day of this tragic incident is immaterial in my mind. Aside from the utter lack of decency on the part of the driver by not sticking around, how do we know he could have done anything to prevent this?
Of course, at the end of the day, I feel the most for the family and friends of the deceased, but I fault none of them.
Some small details
The cops saw fit to charge the driver with a substantial number of serious offences.
Doesn't recommend him much to the public.
In court today ...
The prosecutor said police said they had evidence he came around a corner at an "excessive" rate of speed.
Well, then, yeah
I mean, the accused will have his day in court, assuming he doesn't plea out, but there's a reason why you don't speed on a residential street or around a corner.
And, of course, fleeing the scene does make him that much less a sympathetic character.
Obviously,
the guy who was driving the car that hit/killed the 8 year old child, and hit the adult accompanying the child, was driving recklessly...inotherwords, too fast.
Not necessarily
Leaving aside the information I have discovered since writing that, there is always the chance that the bike went from sidewalk to street at just the right (which of course is wrong) time to get hit by the car, the car traveling at a proper speed but not having the proper reaction time due to the physics of the situation.
That said, witnesses say that he was traveling too fast, so I have no reason to doubt that speed was a factor. However, I would not automatically have assumed that this was the case, nor would I have assumed the scenario described above to be true, either.
Any more about this backyard party?
Everyone is quick to assume that the driver had been drinking without knowing if he had been at a party.
We know the parent(s) of the unsupervised children actually were at a party! Were they drinking? Did that contribute to them being unsupervised? The family has shown a great amount of grief for the media, but I hope that does not blind social services and police to seeing the whole picture for the sake of the other children.
BTW, I just had a look on MassLandRecords.com and this street has had more than its share of hardship. Its like ground zero for the 2009 home loan foreclosure crisis. Even notorious Countrywide having made its mark here.
There are cliffs in Maine
You should go drive off one. Seriously. Were your parents with you every minute of a family party?
On second thought, maybe that IS what is wrong with you.
No
Just no.
Perhaps you were never 12, but a lot of us were. At the age of 12 I was wandering a lot further than the front of my house, party or no party.
Make it to China yet?
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Just give it up already, please
You've already made up your mind and you're just not going to convince anybody you're anything other than a heartless person who has trouble assigning blame to anybody behind the wheel of a car.