Person falls to death from top of Rowes Wharf

What time did this happen at? We saw the police pulling up as we were going out into the harbor. And then saw the coroners can when we got back in. We must have just missed this. So sad.

This happened at about 3:30

By Sue
Sun, 07/19/2015 - 10:35pm

This happened at about 3:30 or thereabouts.

My wife and I were at the

By David Sherrod
Thu, 07/23/2015 - 2:29pm

My wife and I were at the table she hit. I'm hoping I can post on this blog. We desperately need to talk about this and hear from others that were involved.

I was nearby

By Anon
Thu, 07/23/2015 - 11:19pm

My friends and I were standing nearby right when it happened. I will never forget that sound. Ever. So very tragic.

We were the couple next to your table

By Joseph Conforto
Fri, 08/07/2015 - 4:19pm

Please call me. 8607074904. We need to talk as well.

Its legit. I worked there before and when a former co worker told me about it, I google it and this is all that find on it. I didn't know the hotel had the juice they had for this to go unreported for the most part. From what I gather, the "jumper" jumped from the 11th floor landing on the Patio of the Seagrille Restaurant.

Another Piece of the Puzzle

By David Sherrod
Wed, 08/26/2015 - 8:55am

Carol and I have been ver fortunate to have made contact with the couple at the table to our right and also the sweet hostess- both thru Facebook. Joe, the gentleman to our right, and I visited on the phone a few days ago- it was so nice to be able to do that.

The conversation with Joe provided more details. He remembers several males dressed like secret servicemen milling around the area of our tables before she jumped. It was as if the were looking for or expecting something. After she jumped I saw those very same men on our floor- because she had jumped from the room next to ours. There have been several people reporting seeing her pacing back and forth on the phone immediately before she jumped. I now believe she had called the front desk before she jumped and alerted security.

Carol saw the same guys removing items from her room about an hour after it happened. We have thought that it was strange that it wasn't treated as a crime scene. After all- someone could have pushed her. This is explained considering she was on the phone with the hotel telling them she was going to jump.

All that being said- why did the security guys not get us out of the way? We could have easily have been killed!

Thanks for the update

By Markk02474
Wed, 08/26/2015 - 4:58pm

Others are interested in this story and you asked a good question that probably the hotel sadly will not answer unless sued and deposed.

Suicides not reported

By Mahala
Sun, 07/19/2015 - 3:43pm

Out of the respect for the family suicides are generally not reported. This could've been suicide

I am calling dog-doo on this

By anon
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 5:07am

I am calling dog-doo on this story.
People jump from places all the time (bridges, trains) and it is always reported.
Everyone who saw it is a non verified / anon. Also it probably would have been on other social media as this would have had many many witnessed

No, it isn't always reported

By adamg
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 7:42am

Yes, the media (myself included) are more likely to report suicides or suicide attempts in public places (the Tobin, the Orange Line, etc.) these days, but resources are stretched thin on weekends and maybe nobody at MSM was following this on social media, where, yes, it was reported.

I was there IT happened Not

By Bill
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 8:47am

I was there IT happened Not really something you post to twitter or face book

I was there. I saw it. And I

By Kay
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 9:25am

I was there. I saw it. And I can't unsee it. I been having nightmares about falling since Saturday. So maybe shut your mouth.

This, unfortunately, is very

By Cherny
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 9:27am

This, unfortunately, is very true. I was there, too, and find it so strange that nothing was reported. Did anyone here send a tip to local media? I in no way want to sensationalize someone's tragedy. Just, as a bystander, it would feel incredibly helpful to know where to direct my prayers to, and to have some closure about the who and why of the event. My soul is still shaken these days later...whose could not be?

I contacted a local station

By Sue
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 9:56am

I contacted a local station and was told that they generally do not report suicides except in "certain circumstances." I can't think of a more extenuating circumstance then killing yourself in front of a bride and groom and hundreds of witnesses. I guess she would have had to kill the couple that she landed next to in order for this to make the news? I want closure on who this woman was and a little insight to the circumstances of her death. I feel like all of us that had to witness her death at her request are owed at least that much. I will never be able to erase this memory and prayers to all that were forced to be a part of this. Please pray for her troubled soul.

respectfully disagree.

By Malcolm Tucker
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 12:00pm

People's private tragedy should remain their own. It's very kind to want to pray for a stranger's troubled soul, as you put it, but the media exploits people's misery for entertainment all the time. Let this poor woman rest, and let the people who saw it process their grief in their own way - without a spotlight shining in their eyes.

How is it a "private tragedy" exactly?

By low ranking person
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 3:14pm

Person commits suicide in a remote area or on their own property-that's private.

Person does same in front of hundreds of people and nearly takes a couple people with her, that's public. IMO

private tragedy can take place in public, too.

By Malcolm Tucker
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 4:05pm

As far as we know, this isn't a matter of public policy. This isn't associated with something that matters to society at large. This is a horrifying tragedy that happened because one woman's emotional state led her to do something that has traumatized quite a few people, but that - thankfully - didn't take any other lives along with her.

There's a quote from Pnin, one of my favorite books, and I always think about it when I hear about stories like this: "It is nothing but a kind of communism, all that psychiatry. [...] Why not leave their private sorrows to people? Is sorrow not, one asks, the only thing in the world people really possess?"

. I feel like all of us that

By Peeyu
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 3:15pm

. I feel like all of us that had to witness her death at her request are owed at least that much.

Wrong. You aren't "owed" anything!

Well, I'll tell you what.

By Sue
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 6:28pm

Well, I'll tell you what. Until YOU get the privledge of witnessing something so horrific, why don't you leave the thoughts and feelings to those that were actually THERE. What are you even doing trolling this conversation, anyway? Seems I'm not the only witness that is wanting answers. But you know, your name is pretty fitting. You do stink.

I want answers too Sue. The

By tbmth33
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 9:32pm

I want answers too Sue. The gentleman who's back was grazed by this plummeting woman and narrowly escaped death deserves answers. If this person truly chose to end her life by jumping into a crowded restaurant, then somewhere, somehow there is malicious intent, as cold as that sounds. The odds of her not landing on someone, without question, were less likely than what occurred. The information that has been shared from witnesses on this post doesn't confirm if it was a jump or fall, myself included, I do not know. Lots of ways to interpret this horrific event, each of us who were unfortunate enough to witness it are struggling with those questions.

Unforunately...

By Michael Kerpan
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 11:05pm

... the only person who could answer the question can not answer the question. Sometimes one can just never know.

Wanting vs being owed....

By Bob Leponge
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 7:31am

Seems I'm not the only witness that is wanting answers

First of all, I'm sorry you had to witness this death. No doubt it's an experience you won't forget. I hope the memory of it does not unsettle you too much for too long.

With that said, I am reminded of the death of a young teenager in my community some years back. There was some speculation among other parents that it had been a suicide. The parents chose to be silent; the school respected their wishes.

"They owe the rest of us some answers," a few people said.

"No they don't," wiser people responded. "If they choose to talk to us, to provide information or insight, it might be comforting. It might help to provide some closure. It might help us to understand. But nobody owes us anything."

And, frankly, that's the situation here, too. Nobody is owed any explanation of anything.

Learn to live with disappointment

By Kaz
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 2:56pm

http://tinybuddha.com/blog/4-steps-to-deal-with-di...

Dear god

By starbuck
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 9:43am

Dear god do we have to put this up as a Facebook status in order for it to be official and real?

No, but you do have to admit

By CB
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 1:13pm

No, but you do have to admit that it's bizarre that not one local news station or newspaper is covering it.

I was the wedding officiant at this wedding.

By Carol J. Merletti
Wed, 07/22/2015 - 8:45pm

Story is on my Facebook page. People would not make up a story about this. That is pretty sick if they did. I have This couple was my 918th couple that I have married in Massachusetts, and probably the saddest.

So sorry...

By David Sherrod
Thu, 07/23/2015 - 4:33pm

I'm so sorry to hear the wedding couple knew of this. I was hoping by some miracle that they didn't. So very sad.

I know the person who’s

By anon
Sun, 06/17/2018 - 12:16pm

I know the person who’s wedding this was. Unfortunately it’s true

We were there...

By Kay
Sun, 07/19/2015 - 5:40pm

We were there having lunch when this happened. It was horrible. The staff were trying very hard to keep patrons away- some people were taking pictures of the body. It was one of the most horrific things I have ever seen.

There as well

By tbmth33
Sun, 07/19/2015 - 6:58pm

We were on the patio when it happened as well. Horrific event, others could have been seriously injured, they were fortunate they were not. Cannot find any additional information on this, Very frustrating

Totally miraculous she didn't

By Sue
Sun, 07/19/2015 - 10:34pm

Totally miraculous she didn't kill the couple she landed next to. I still can't believe what I saw. The restaurant here is still closed.

My husband and I were there.

By Liz S.
Sun, 07/19/2015 - 9:57pm

My husband and I were there. The hostess had escorted right past the entryway where she landed seconds before she fell. We sat down three tables away from her impact. A male witness later told us he saw here pacing the balcony 10 stories above and then witnessed her tumble over the railing landing on the outer edge of the
table where people where eating. Fortunaltley no one at the table was injured. A very sad horrific event.

well, I'm verified

By polarbare
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 11:19am

and my wife is a wedding photographer. She knows the person who was shooting the wedding, and was telling me about it when she got home that night.

Wedding Crasher?

By Markk02474
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 11:46am

Perhaps the message from the jumper, who could have felt slighted for not being invited? Really selfish and inconsiderate towards the bride who should be the center of attention at her wedding, and not some suicide bomber.

Go away

By Michael Kerpan
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 11:49am

Just go away.

Yeah, right

By Whurlz
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 1:05pm

SHE is the inconsiderate one. God, you are an asshole.

Wow

By Neal
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 1:31pm

You just have absolutely no sense of decency, do you?

I deleted a post from a registered user

By adamg
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 9:29pm

If you're unable to discuss a topic like this without resorting to four-letter words, please consider another forum.

I was responding in kind

By Markk02474
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 10:15pm

Wasn't objectionable until I did so.

Time to give it a rest

By adamg
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 11:00pm

I deleted another comment. A woman is dead. I think people realize the risks she subjected other people to. Coming up with horrible overblown analogies to describe what she may or may not have done are just going too far (in my opinion, of course, but then, I run the site, so have access to the delete button).

I'm tempted to close this thread altogether but given that people who were actually there are finding it, since nobody else has written about it (except in Twitter and Facebook posts), I'm leaving it open for them to comment.

There is a second issue

By Markk02474
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 1:29am

Some people wrongly think a "victim" can do no wrong. The analogies were to help them see the errors of their ways.

Registered users are hardly sacrosanct.

By anon
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 5:15am

Delete away as it helps to keep em in line. One reason I blew off registering again is I want you to be able to reject some hair ball I cough up if you don't care for it.

At this point the place should be something the kidlet can enjoy without bile from toxic malcontents who "registered'.

This particular story is very mysterious. Maybe something will surface once the next of kin waiting time issues sort out.

If someone really wanted to sleuth it out, I'd imagine obituaries for that day would be the place to look. There would be a woman of a certain age range who passed away 'suddenly' with muted mention of the cause. That usually takes a few days as death certificates are issued and funeral homes prepare notices.

Do not assume that the family

By anon
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 9:48am

Do not assume that the family of that woman would publicize an obituary of her. Its an option, not a requirement. When both my paternal grandparents died, my father declined to have an obituary notice for them on the Globe and Herald. And when my father died three years ago, my mother also declined when offered by the funeral director.

What about coroner's records

By Not a sleuth
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 11:54pm

I thought that death certificates and such were public record. If a reporter (or anyone) really, really wanted to find out the details, they could probably, eventually get the information form the coroner's office.

Thank you so much...

By David Sherrod
Thu, 07/23/2015 - 4:00pm

We obviously do not know each other. My name is David and my wife's is Carol. We are the couple at the table she landed on. I can certainly understand why you would be tempted to close this blog- there are idiots every where. Please keep deleting those but I beg yu to not close the blog. He have been looking everywhere to find some way to connect to the others involved in this event- you are a blessing to have provided that avenue! Thank you so much!!

Women that jumped

By Darlene
Fri, 07/24/2015 - 9:36am

I also was the celebrating with my family on a special occasion my 14 year old son was there with me with the reset of my family and we can not seem to rap ur mind around this we saw moments after and the sad view of this from our balcony witch was directly above I under stand that it is a procedure that has to be done but they left her there for so long and by herself I know that sounds stupid but someone so troubled I feel like someone should of stayed with her my heart hurts for her and my family and my birthday will always b saddened by this as I'm sure many others will also I hope that we all can come to terms with our own feelings and I also hope this woman has found peace

Person falls to death from top of Rowes Wharf

By JMudder
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 11:06pm

Niece works there as hostess. She was working when it happened. Very sad, horrifying to those who witnessed it, and so very lucky that no one was killed. The restaurant was still closed on Monday.
Not surprising that a 5 Star Hotel and it's associated restaurant would use all of their power to suppress media coverage.

Another legitimate reason for the lack of publicity....

By Michael Kerpan
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 9:27am

... not wanting to give ideas to potential "copy cats"...

Also lawsuits

By Markk02474
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 1:25pm

for damages have been brought against the estate of people who have committed suicide.

Non sequitur

By Michael Kerpan
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 2:45pm

But that's hardly unusual.

Mark K is an asshole

By The Beer Guy
Fri, 07/24/2015 - 8:59am

I'll just leave this here

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro-west/neighbor...

And that is....

By Michael Kerpan
Fri, 07/24/2015 - 9:22am

... letting him off easy....

What's your problem with that and how does it relate here?

By Markk02474
Fri, 07/24/2015 - 10:39am

People committing suicide are selfish. Anger at them is a normal emotional reaction. I am mad at my friend last year for not saying he was in despair and in need of help. In this situation where a jumper caused damages to others, anger is clearly appropriate. People who adopt special needs kids from foreign countries to brainwash them into fundamentalist Christians and put the costs on their neighbors (besides the $10,000 IRS tax credit) are also selfish and harming their neighbors. So, I guess you are the one supporting assholes.

Dude

By The Beer Guy
Fri, 07/24/2015 - 10:44am

If I had the misfortune of calling you a friend I'd consider killing myself too. Maybe your friend's emotional distress should have worn visible clothing.

More Insight on tragic

By More closure
Tue, 07/21/2015 - 10:06pm

More Insight on tragic incident.

I was eating lunch with my family when this woman fell to her death on Saturday, July 18th at around 3:30pm. Though I am curious about her name and her history I just want to share the information I have about the situation. As I was getting ready to leave the restaurant, I saw a woman's body on the ground after I heard a loud boom and shattering glass (which came from the table that the woman landed on as she fell). She landed on the umbrella and the glass table before hitting the ground. The location was right at the hostess area of the restaurant's outside patio. My table was located immediately to the left of where this woman landed. At that point, I only remember seeing her legs, motionless. My fiancé, however, noticed her modest clothing attire and slightly gray hair. Taking an education guess, she was in her 40s. Within minutes the police and ambulance arrived to remove the body. My fiancé briefly spoke with the concierge to see if he needed to give any testimony about the terrible incident. They assured him that he would not need to provide any additional information about the sudden death of this woman. I would have loved to known her identify and reason for committing suicide but, I do hope the information that I can provide to this blog can assist with any unanswered questions people may have.

Oh thank God!!!!

By David Sherrod
Thu, 07/23/2015 - 2:35pm

Can we post here? We were at the table she landed on. We desperately need to talk to the others who were involved. We are so rattled- talking to you guys would be so helpful.

David, I was right at the

By Sue
Wed, 07/29/2015 - 5:39pm

David, I was right at the glass inside the restaurant and saw her land on you... I will never forget how... Didn't it take us all a minute to figure out what had happened? I'm getting married there this October and that's what we were doing there. Trying to wrap up some details.

Anyway, I've had a pretty hard time with this, and I can't imagine what you have been through. If your wife was wearing white, I remember you.

We found out that this was lonely woman in her late 50's with no family. She drove down from Gloucester, and specifically asked for a room with a patio? Balcony? I think of which there are only 6. She checked in, went right to the room and jumped.

I am terribly sad for her lonliness and have no doubt her thoughts were not on those she could have injured or killed. That's a desperate state that usually leaves no room for clarity. I pray for her, you and everyone else involved every night. Best advice I got from someone was to try to make your own peace with it, somehow. Knowing a little bit about what happened has allowed me to put a bit of closure to it. Pray that she is lonely no more. Hope this helps.

Thank you Sue...

By David Sherrod
Tue, 08/04/2015 - 12:12am

Thank you for posting and providing additional information Sue. I have wondered if she specifically asked for that type of room- it seemed like she almost had to. Not only did she land on our table but she jumped from the room next to ours.

We are still looking for answers obviously. I don't believe these things happen randomly. We were there for a reason and will will find that reason in time. This event has certainly made us more mindful and compassionate toward others.

We met with a Phycologist last week and that was a big help. We will continue doing that monthly for a while. Each day is a little better but we will never forget her or that day.

Thank you so much for posting. Please feel free to reach out to us at anytime. My email is [email protected].

what a tragic event for all

By anonymous perso...
Wed, 07/22/2015 - 1:17pm

So sad, not only for this woman I knew, but for the people there and the wedding couple who witnessed it. To help those understand some of the other reasons there is no info yet on this is because she suffered from mental issues,and being treated for it. When someone takes their life while under the care of DMH and the other organizations affiliated with them, there is a MAJOR investigation that goes with it. Im sure DMH had a big part in the lack of info.With all the negative press over past few years for State orgs, and the different sub contracted mental health companies, im sure they are trying to see if if was something that could have been avoided, and looking for a scapegoat for who "Dropped the Ball" on not guessing her possible mindset. an example of this was the young man that died via suicide by police officer a couple years ago in Danvers...no real info until after internal investigations closed via DMH and subcontracted orgs.
She was a wonderful woman, with a family that are devastated right now, all wondering if there was something they missed or could have done.
The truth is, if someone is so distraught and suffering with metal illness, shy of locking them up 24/7, (which you cannot as they have human rights) they will find a way.
I cannot help but speculate who she was on phone with prior to her tragic decision, and wonder how they are coping as well

She was a kind and gentle

By anon
Wed, 07/22/2015 - 9:11pm

She was a kind and gentle woman. I am sorry for those who knew and loved her and for those who witnessed her tragic death.

Who was she

By anon
Thu, 07/23/2015 - 9:14pm

I think it might be helpful if people who were there knew who she was. This could help in the healing process and let people move on.

It would for us...

By David Sherrod
Fri, 07/24/2015 - 8:29am

It would be very helpful for us. From our point of view we see her as a very cruel selfish uncaring woman who wanted to kill herself with no regard for anyone else. She could have easily killed my wife- landed right at her feet.

All that being said- I'm sure that's not who she really was at all tho. The poster above did help by letting us know she had mental issues. We would very much like to know more about her. It would help us to move on.

Person falls to death from top of Rowes Wharf

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