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North Station covered walkway in pieces

Looks like the covered walkway at North Station is already being dismantled.

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Perhaps it has something to do with this.

I guess just pray that the Bruins go deep in the playoffs this year.

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is that whenever there's a big event at the Garden, the covered walkway - as poor as it is- will be temporarily removed.

Embarrassment over the crappy appearance perhaps?

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...in preparation to replace it with a narrower, longer, more roundabout entrance to the station. I hate to pile on the cynicism here, but trying to get between subway and commuter rail at North Station is awful right now. If it weren't for rush-hour Haverhill trains being jammed at Malden Center, I'd almost be tempted to ride up there to transfer at times if coming from downtown.

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from Commuter Rail to the Orange Line at Malden Center is because the Orange Line service is even crappier and less reliable than dealing with the covered walkway and crossing Causeway Street under the direction of the Transit Police officers. You know, the ones who are directly timed with the traffic signals at the intersection and will not let pedestrians cross unless the light for them is green - even if there are NO cars approaching on Causeway Street.

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Do they tackle jaywalkers?

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I'm on one of the first trains in the morning coming in, and FREQUENTLY, the transit cops will hold back pedestrians against their own crossing signal to let traffic through instead. They aren't anywhere to be seen for the afternoon though.

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I don't think this will be the case as construction really commences in a few months. That covered walkway is to protect people from the work above. Remember, a whole building will be built around this walk way.

They may have taken it down to accommodate the commencing construction that should start within the next few weeks.It will probably be moved and re-assembled nearby.

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They may have taken it down to accommodate the commencing construction that should start within the next few week

Great. In other words, "We aren't going to start heavy construction for a few weeks, but let's take the covered walkway down now because it''s convenient for US to do so". Imagine if MassDOT said "Replacement of the Commonwealth Avenue bridge has been delayed for a year. But we're going to reduce the Pike to a single lane in each direction tomorrow anyway, even though it's not immediately necessary.

And for the "But Delaware North owns the land" crowd, imagine if MassDOT said - We own the Pike, so we've decided to shut it down completely during the Comm. Ave project." I doubt you'd get people saying "Well, MassDOT owns the road, so they can do that, even though they have no legitimate reason to do so."

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Once again., you're comparing apples to oranges.

Delaware North is a PRIVATE company. MassDOT is a PUBLIC state agency. Big difference there. Private companies can do whatever they want with their land (pending permits and inspections, of course). MassDOT and the Pike are a whole separate issue since it's a PUBLIC entity.

So your comparison is pretty invalid.

And frankly since Delaware North is a private company and can do whatever they want with their property, they don't have to provide a covered walkway at all. Remember that. It's their walkway, their right to do whatever they want, when they want, and how often they want. It's their property and their right to do as they see fit.

But go ahead, continue your misguided bitch fest you seem to constantly do about this topic. I'll be right here to correct you each and every time on how wrong you really are.

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impacts access that the MBTA (a PUBLIC agency)'s customers rely on. And my point still stands - if they aren't going to start the heavy construction requiring they relocate the covered walkway for some time, then there is NO legitimate need (and "convenience" doesn''t count)to relocate the walkway now.

And if "we have to do heavy work here" is the reason for the relocation, then why didn't they put the walkway in the proper location in the first place. It's not like they needed to do any work there anyway, nor where there any obstacles preventing them from doing so.

But keep on spouting your - well, they're a PRIVATE company, so they can do whatever they like on their land" mantra.

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if they aren't going to start the heavy construction requiring they relocate the covered walkway for some time, then there is NO legitimate need (and "convenience" doesn''t count)to relocate the walkway now.

1. Are you in the know on this project?
2. Do you know people on the construction team?
3. Have you met with the project manager to discuss construction sequence?
4. Have you talked to the construction foreman on site to know what's going to happen next?
5. Have you read the "scope of work" and "sequence of construction" documents that are produced by the project manager?

I'm pretty sure the answer to all those questions for you is no. And frankly "no" would also be my answer to those questions. Because if either one of us did know, we wouldn't be even having this discussion right now.

And because you don't know. you're making a broad assumption about why it was taken down and what will happen next. Because tomorrow, you could get to NS, and that walkway could be re-assembled and moved elsewhere. And then Friday, they could start to tear up the old parking lot and start pile driving into the ground nearby.

See my point?

You have absolute no idea what will happen next. So your bitchfest is just misguided and unfounded.

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and they usually exist wherever the public needs to cross private lands in order to get somewhere important.

Delaware North's right to do what they want with their property ENDS with the public's right to safely access North Station. For all you know, they could have even agreed to such an easement as part of whatever inside deal netted them such prime to develop on top of one of the largest PUBLIC transportation hubs in the state (and if they didn't, someone sure as hell dropped the ball)

But keep thinking that property owners are medieval fiefs answerable only to God. It's adorable.

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For all you know, they could have even agreed to such an easement as part of whatever inside deal netted them such prime to develop on top of one of the largest PUBLIC transportation hubs in the state (and if they didn't, someone sure as hell dropped the ball)

That's right.. "for all you know" but neither one of is do know so for now it's all in theory. So I could be right or you could be right.

I'll also remind you that this entrance is not the only entrance to North Station. There is another entrance at the opposite end of the building. It may not be the most convenient entrance, but there's another entrance. And that entrance would provide "the public's right to safely access North Station" .

But keep thinking that property owners are medieval fiefs answerable only to God.

Those are your words, not mine, and I disagree with that statement.

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Both entrances/exits are currently narrowed due to construction. The side with the Bobby Orr statue is almost entirely demolished right now; in fact I think the Bobby Orr statue has been temporarily removed. And for several days this week the sidewalk between the two entrances has been blocked too. Pedestrian traffic around North Station is severely limited right now.

(Though to be fair, they have been opening up the walkways to Bruins & Celtics fans throughout the winter. ...And then shutting it off again when it's just us commuting plebes who need to get to our trains & jobs.)

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Thanks Boston. Outward appearance of a already ugly stadium is far more important than the needs of a hundred thousand daily paying commuters.

Man, do I wish the MBTA board (or chief officer) was elected.

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But I've said it before and say it again.

Delaware North owns the land where this walkway and the property it sits on. They can do whatever they want with the structure.

People keep forgetting this little factoid....

Do I agree? Without knowing the reasoning for it being taken down.. I can't form an opinion of it.

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the MBTA issued last December:

Headhouse at North Station to Close for Upgrade

Start Date: 12/22/2015

Media Contact
MassDOT Press Office: 857-368-8500

BOSTON - Due to construction about to begin on the site of the former Boston Garden, the existing MBTA head house will be closed on Jan 2. Commuters should be aware that covered ADA accessible walkways will be put in place for MBTA customers until the developer's project is completed in December 2018.

The head house closure and demolition is needed to allow for construction of a direct connection between the Orange and Green Line Stations and the east lobby of North Station Commuter Rail. Once built, it will have long-lasting benefits for T customers, who will never again have to walk outside in extreme weather, nor cross the street to get from one station to another (as is now the case).

The developers have coordinated with T personnel to ensure safe and convenient pedestrian flow between North Station and the Green and Orange Line stations. In the interim, pedestrians will be asked to use the other entrances/exits at the Orange/Green Line Station and cross Causeway Street at the designated crosswalks. Signs will be posted and as work zones change, the signage will change accordingly.

Pedestrian travel paths will remain the same for the majority of the project, except for some minor adjustments that will occur throughout the course of the project. The changes will be announced well in advance and appropriate sinage (sic) will be put in place. Entrances to North Station Commuter Rail station and waiting area will remain open throughout the duration of the project.

Extra MBTA Customer Service personnel will be on duty for the first month or more of the head house closure to help any customers who may need assistance.

When finished, there will be a covered, underground connection from the commuter rail to the subway and a new entrance to North Station via Causeway Street.

The overall development project includes 210,000 square feet of retail, 700,000 square feet of office space, 440 residential units and a 260-room hotel. Construction is being performed by John Moriarty & Associates (JMA).

Doesn't say anything about the covered walkway being removed from time to time for the contractor's convenience. And personally witnessing a portion of the covered walkway being removed during my normal daily commute - I use the connection twice a day, five days a week - doesn't exactly qualify as giving notice "well in advance".

BTW, I had to go back into the MBTA's news archives to find this because information about the temporary covered walkway is no longer contained in the service alerts sections for either the Green or the Orange Lines.

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Even in your own post, your quote says that you're wrong.

Pedestrian travel paths will remain the same for the majority of the project, except for some minor adjustments that will occur throughout the course of the project. The changes will be announced well in advance and appropriate sinage (sic) will be put in place.

Key word there is "travel paths".

I'm willing to place dollars to donuts this means IF the path to that entrance changes. Sorry I don't exactly see them taking down a covered walkway and moving it a couple of feet to the left or right a reason to put out a notice or signage about it.

You'll still cross the street at the same place. You just may have to walk slightly to the left or the right to where the original walkway was. Not exactly a large feat nor a reason to put up signage.

Now if they made you cross the street.. walk down the side walk a few yards to enter the walkway, yes I agree that signage should be done. OR, for example, a new door is built to NS and they have to re-route the walkway to that new door.. then, yes, signage should probably be done.

But as it stands, that walkway isn't being moved much at all currently.

I'm sorry I fail to see your bitch fest about it, except for the fact that you just like to consistently bitch about this.

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Delaware North is tightly linked with the city of Boston -- the company need's the city's help and approval to run events and the city needs the economic impact of the stadium. (Also, the station is still run by the state.) If Walsh/Baker made a big stink about the closing of the causeway tunnel it would have not been closed for three years. Furthermore, who is paying for the construction and deconstruction of the passageway? (Hint: It's the T.)

Baker/Walsh should have politely informed Delaware North that, in the interest of public safety, their liquor license would be suspended during the times when the tunnel was closed.

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(Hint: It's the T.)

Citation please.

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Has anyone stopped to use some common sense and think maybe it was being removed today to be relocated for some other work related to the removal of the head house structure or some other related construction activity. It is almost like none of you have walked by a construction site before. Temporary things like this have to be moved all the time to accommodate demotion/construction phases. They aren't simply just removing it and saying screw the safely of the commuters there is a reason it is being (re)moved. Part of any construction project is the installation of OSHA certified protections for both workers and the public passing by the site.

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This is one of the points I've been trying to make all along.

It is almost like none of you have walked by a construction site before.

Bingo. I really question this also. You understand it. I understand it. Why can't anyone else?

Oh wait.. people just like to bitch for the sake of bitching...

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Haven't they noticed the fabulous new station at Government Center? It's so wonderful, it more than makes up for any imperfections in the rest of the system.

IMAGE(http://p.o0bc.com/rf/image_650x365/Boston/2011-2020/2016/03/21/Boston.com/BCOM/Images/EC2A9866.jpg)

The governor worked very hard to fix the and make it run perfect because he rides it every day. It's no wonder he's so popular!

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*Gives Elmer Side-Eye*

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Is how he's posing with his hand out as if he's holding it around a pole...but he's not actually holding it around the pole.

On the Green Line, that is how you go splat like a tourist on a bunch of angry commuters once the train starts moving.

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Is how he's posing with his hand out as if he's holding it around a pole...but he's not actually holding it around the pole.

He's just finished patting himself on the belly congratulating himself. And then he'll stretch his arm out to glad hand the first person he sees just out of shot by this cameraperson.

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"Hey look at me riding this underground rail device like one of those poors I've heard about! Is there an orphan around to shine my shoes?"

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But if I stopped to use common sense, I wouldn't be able to vent my spleen over something meaningless and insignificant like some arbitrarily moved scaffolding!!

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Did you stop to ask either of the two contractors in the photo you took? They might choose to answer you.

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