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Deer rescued at Nantasket Beach
By adamg on Sat, 05/28/2016 - 10:01pm
Neil the roving UHub photographer reports a deer emerged from the ocean at Nantasket Beach this afternoon - possibly after running into the water near the comfort station at the north end of the beach.
State Police kept a close watch - and prevented any selfie situation by keeping people away. At first, troopers were looking for somebody to come tranquilize the doe so they could bring her somewhere safer, but then:
Deer made it to secluded cove on south end of beach. With a police boat escort and fans following on the boardwalk.
Looked like MSP and rangers cleared that area and there's a lot of ground cover close by and plenty of deery terrain nearby so looks like Bambi of the Sea is OK.
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D'oh!
D'oh!
A Deer!
n/t
not to steal anyone's thunder but
Adorable!
If that's not the canonical Uhub application
of " Adorable!", I don't know what is.
Kudos to MSP and DCR rangers
First photo belies deer's state. It wasn't chilling on beach. It was trembling and looked very stressed.
Before authorities got situation under control the deer had swum quite a distance and had no safe place to come ashore as crowds were following her along beach.
Looked like she came ashore near ramp as it was only visible escape route or bit of cover to be found on beach.
She got a good rest under protection and then seemed to make beeline for greenery and rocks at far end of beach.
Deer are good swimmers and she probably would have had a great day in the water if it wasn't Memorial Day wknd.
NOT WHAT HAPPENED
This is completely inaccurate! We were there. The deer was completely surrounded and scared. People were all crowded around on the beach and the deer had nowhere to go but toward the water and looked frightened. The police did NOTHING other than stand there staring at the deer and keeping people from getting super close, but not making them back away. I approached the police and told one of them I am a biologist and if you clear the beach the deer will have a path to exit. He responded by scoffing at me, telling me that everyone had a solution and they had it under control, someone was coming with a tranquilizer dart. It took them over an hour to "solve" it. The solution was the deer swimming super far out off the beach and swimming in the cold water for a really long distance. Rather than the police clearing a beach path for this poor animal, it was forced to swim the entire beach length to safety with annoying swimmers chasing it. I'd hardly call the police boat an escort. No one helped this poor animal escape, I'm sure they made it worse, scaring it to swim further out. I can't believe this representation. The police were far from heroic in this case.
In their defense
Not everyone who claims to be a biologist at the beach is one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u8KUgUqprw
EDIT - fixed link.
this youtube link is an advertisement ....
.... for "Bridge Corporate Training"
Clearly an error in the link
Should direct to Vandelay Industries...
That was weird
The error has been fixed.
I apologize 1000 times, like Ted Sarandis used to.
Deer
I completely agree with this individual and her comment. I was there as well. I first noticed the deer while my partner and I were eating at the Ref Parrot. It seemed to just "appear" in the water!
It was painful and upsetting to watch. The state troopers did very little (perhaps that was their role?). Evacuating the beach to allow the deer to roam free and figure out its travels outside of the bitter ocean would have been a better solution. Unfortunately that did not happen.
Animal control and the Department of environmental services were no where to be found. One woman had enough sense to swim behind the deer to push her toward the beach (this worked).
Clearly the deer was frightened and hurt but after 3 hours of in and out of the water, it bolted back in the water at the ramp and headed for the south end of the beach the coast guard watched and did nothing.
The long swim took over 35 minutes. The deer manages to get to the rocks and on land. The department of environmental services had finally showed up. We left after 25 minutes of them standing around. At this time I am still wondering what happened to the deer.
Thanks Danielle
Thank you Danielle.. Im that woman who had enough sense.lol The cops got paid all day to sit there and do NOTHING but threaten me for helping the deer. Them state police just dont know what they were doing.. If it was was of their dogs or other officer out there struggling I guarantee they would have wanted my help then.. But hey thats what I get for trying to do my job off the clock..
I WAS THE ONLY PERSON TRYING TO HELP THE DEER..
Thats not true.. I was the woman in the water that dove it and swam and forced the deer to get to safety. It was also me who told the cops that were NOT doing anything at all that the deer was going through hypothermia.. And was going to die.. They are not ment to swim from 9 am to arkund 5 pm when I got to him.. And this police in this picture is the one that threatened to arrest me for helping get it in to shore.. Them dumb officers got paid alll day for doing shit.. But they threatened me.. Someone who was worked with wildlife and knows what I'm doing.. So ALL THEM STATE POLICE DID WAS KILL THAT POOR ANIMAL.. THEY DIDN'T HELP AT ALL..
You probably caused more stress on the deer than anyone else.
The deer didn't know you were there to help.
Pete nice
YES BC I DID THEIR JOB FOR THEM.. ALL THEY NEEDED TO DO WAS CALL AND GET ANIMAL CONTROL.. BUT THEY COULDNT EVEN DO THAT RIGHT... SO I MADE THEIR JOB EASIER. GOT THE DEER TO SHORE.. BUT THEN SINCE 9 am THEY STILL DIDNT CALL ANYONE.. AND JUST FYI.. NOBODY WOULD HAVE THESE PICTURES IF WHAT I DID WAS SOOOOOO TERRIFYING... THE ANIMAL COULD HAVE DROWNED .. THEY CAN SWIM BUT NOT FOR 8 HOURS... SO SAY WHAT U WANT. I DONT REGRET WAT I DID.. SO ENJOY THE PICTURES YOU HAVE OF THE DEER ON SHORE BC OF ME.. YOUR WELCOME
You are a murderer if that poor deer dies!!!!!!
How do you know animal control wasn't called? Did you check with Troop F or the Revere police to see who was dispatched and when? If you knew anything about animals like deer, you would know that someone swimming or even going near them for any reason would probably cause more stress than if the deer waited there and kept its heart rate at a normal level.
So yea, thanks for killing that poor deer you murderer!!!!
And no, a State Trooper's job is not to stress live animals out, unless you know the State Police policy on animal control, which you don't.
One small thing, Pete
I think you meant Hull police and some other barracks.
Man, though, do people scream at you all the time like this woman did here?
Yes. All the time. They
Yes. All the time. They scream and yell and fight.
When we are called to a house, we aren't usually dealing with the most rational people. No one calls the police when they accidentally made too many chocolate chip cookies and they don't know who to give them to. They call when there has been a complete break down of societal norms.
Imagine the oness that call repeatedly.
- a Boston Cop
Hello, 911. What is your emergency?
I've... I've made too many chocolate cookies... and I don't know who to give them to!
(Congrats on keeping your sense of humor.)
Think about who you are dealing with here
At least they didn't shoot it in front of all those people, that probably counts for a success.
"Did they shoot it?"
"They shoot everything!"
Overhead comment coming from a group of young men. It was pretty funny, but sad commentary too.
I was there and was very
I was there and was very concerned about the foe's well being.
Great job state troopers!!
The deer surrounded by people
Photo.
MSP weren't heroic but professional
This picture was taken shortly after animal came ashore. The first pic in the post shows the deer protected and fairly isolated by MSP after they responded.
It was an unusual event that ended well. What heroics should have occurred? It's a wild animal on a beach not a baby in a burning building.
Talk of clearing the beach is crazy. First the beach was packed. Second there is a sea wall and/or riprap along the whole beach, EXCEPT where deer finally came ashore.
Were troopers supposed to clear the beach and somehow corral the animal up a ramp or flight of stairs?
Then what?
Close Hull Shore Drive and Nantasket Ave to all vehicular and pedestrian traffic?
Close the side streets and G. Washington Blvd. so deer can make it to Worlds End in Hingham?
Sheer nonsense.
Also that area is well developed. I can't think of a safe place for a deer to hide along that whole stretch and I know the area well.
Deer are good swimmers and this animal didn't look hurt in the least. It swam at a good clip to a safe refuge when it went back in the water.
Woman who chased it out of water should have left it alone and it probably would have made it there a couple hours quicker and may have prevented the stressful situation on the beach.
MSP aren't wildlife control and it's certainly not their fault that those personnel weren't available quickly.
Finally the boat stayed fairly far away from animal, probably to avoid frightening it further. It did use its loud speaker to warn people away. Looked like a few kids tried to swim behind it towards the end of its swim. They were warned off and stopped.
The sensible thing to do when you encounter any wild animal is to simply leave it alone. MSP and DCR Rangers managed to ensure a huge and excitable crowd did so.
I didn't see every event that transpired but did follow deer's situation down the beach over the course of a few hours.
The situation was well handled by authorities.
NEIL YOU WEREN'T THERE SO SHUT UP
NEIL YOU WEREN'T THERE FOR THE WHOLE THING SO SHUT UP... THE AUTHORITIES JUST STOOD THERE.. STOP BEING A KISS ASS.. THA LADY DIDN'T CHASE IT.. SHE SWAM BEHIND IT TO PUSH IT INTO SHORE.. IT WAS STRUGGLING.. AND IT WAS WOUNDED.. BUT YOU WOULDNT KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE.. SO SHUT UR MOUTH YOU SOUND SO STUPID.. SHUT UP
I know you're upset, but ...
Could you try to be just a bit more civil? Imagine you're in somebody's living room discussing this, not in the middle of a giant bar brawl.
BUT
1st AMENDMENT, UR CENSERING US!!!
Adamg you're funny..
Hahaha your funny..get a life.. Im pretty sure you have spoken worse. So please dont act like you're someone special.. I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU IN THA FIRST PLACE.. so please keep your dumb comments to yourself.. Thank you in advance
Calm ya livva
You're right, I am no one special. But I do run this site and while I do so far from perfectly, I do request that folks at least pretend to be civil. Please keep that in mind and maybe count to ten the next time you get ready to pound the keyboard with your fists of fury. I've never banned somebody only a few hours after they've created an account, but there's always a first time, I guess.
Based on the evidence
Since you're acting like an idiot here, you were probably acting like an idiot there.
That poor animal is scared shit-less
by all the people and being the center of attention. It just wanted to safely escape the situation. When they get very anxious and stressed they just freeze. This is where the 'deer caught in the headlight' phrase comes from.
Crazy biologist
The person claiming to be a biologist is crazy. The MSP did a fantastic job securing the beach and the deer eventually made a safe retreat.
The so-called biologist's plan to evacuate the beach would have been disastrous and caused unneeded panic.
Let the professionals of the MSP handle the situation. Great job MSP.
CRAZY Biologist is a PhD in Animal Behavior
Actually, I happen to know that that "Crazy" biologist who I was with at the beach is a professional Biologist with a PhD from Boston University and her specialty is Animal Behavior research, that is clearly more of a Biologist than the ignorant police that probably doesn't know more than high school Biology and can not accept any feedback or advice from a professional. They would rather feel safe with their egos, like this article shows.
or
They have a specific procedure while they wait for the proper authorities to arrive. You're right they're not trained wildlife biologists; it's not part of their job. That's why they secured the scene. It's also not within an academic's purview to coordinate evacuation of a beach or allocate public safety resources. of course the trooper scoffed at them...they sound like a nutty and completely full of themselves.
An academic expert on animal
An academic expert on animal behavior KNOWS what needs to be done, that Biologist wasn't of course going to give orders to the people to evacuate, BUT was telling the police that that is what they should do if they wanted to help the animal, the police can easily give an evacuation order, but this proves the police's actual FULL OF THEMSELVES attitude, because it challenges their idea of "Power" by a more knowledgeable voice giving them advice. . If you all people who insult that swimming woman who was trying to help the deer get to shore, please ask yourselves what were YOU doing to help in the meantime while she was putting herself in danger in order to help this animal.... Weren't you making it worst by crowding and watching the animal and taking photos to put on your facebook and show your friends? Im sorry but if you weren't actually trying to help nor were self-aware of how your acts and presence could have affected the life of the animal, don't say anything. ALSO, if you were not there, your opinion of what happened means nothing in this case.
What an academic expert may not understand ...
... is what happens when a large mass of humans (aka wildlife with cars) are told to leave an extremely popular public beach with one way out.
As said above, Nantasket is a tricky place. It can be a tricky surf on a storm tide because there are not a whole lot of ways out.
There once was a deer on
There once was a deer on Nantasket
naked, not even a jacket
a Statie sent out
to move it about
a sight that made quite a racket
A poor doe could not have got
A poor doe could not have got wetter
A tragic fate nearly beset her
But she's out of the sea
And now we all disagree
Was it the PhD or police who knew better?
Brilliant!
Love it! And anon's as well.
Doe on the go
When a doe on the go is in danger
Don't call in the cops or the rangers
We always know better
We'll chase and upset her
Then log on and scream at some strangers
There once was a deer from
There once was a deer from Nantasket
That loved to swim, just ask it
But when it went for some laps
It was screamed at in ALL CAPS
And forced to the beach to chillax it
There was once a doe ashore
There was once a doe ashore in Hull
Who all could agree was Adorable!
She only wanted to cool down
Not be the talk of the town
But had quite the day Memorial
(Ok, last one, I promise.)
Michael row your doe ashore
Halleluja.
Michael row your doe ashore
Halleluja.
Leave me out of this thread
I don't want UH's "Susie Essman from 'Curb Your Enthusiam'" coming after me, ban or no ban
"F*** you Michael, this is b
"F*** you Michael, this is b*llshit motherf*cker. You are such a bald assh*le I can't believe it."
Sorry, couldn't resist. One of the best characters ever.
And 2 Larry David shout-outs in one thread! Pretty, pretty good.
ALL NEGITIVE PEOPLE
I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY.. THAT DEER NEEDED A BREAK.. AND I COULD TELL SHE WAS GIVING UP.. WHEN I GOT HER TO SHORE SHE WAS LICKING HER WOUNDS AND LAID DOWN AND WAS GOING THROUGH HYPOTHERMIA AND HER BODY WAS STRESSED BEING THROWN AROUND IN THE WATER FOR 8 HOURS. I DO KNOW THAT THEY CALLED THE ANIMAL RESCUE BUT THE COPS SAID THEY WERE CLOSED... THERE'S ALWAYZ A PERSON THATS ON CALL FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS... SO I WANTED THE DEER TO GET TO SHORE AND ATLEAST GET A BREAK FROM BEING THROWN AROUND AND SWALLOWING WATER AND EVENTUALLY DROWNING.. YES DEERS CAN SWIM BUT THEIR FEET ARE NOT WEBBED SO ITS HARDER AND THEY ARE USING MORE ENERGY... SO YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT.. BUT DONT BE MAD THAT A PERSON THAT ACTUALLY WORKS WITH WILDLIFE TRIED TO HELP THIS DEER... THE COPS DIDNT DO ANYTHING BUT YELL AT ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE AND THREATENED ME.. SO PLEASE YOU WEREN'T THERE FOR THE WHOLE THING.. YOU CAME AT THE END AFTER I ALREADY HELP THE DEER GET TO SHORE.. SO PLEASE SHUT YOUR MOUTHS BECAUSE I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS... I WILL DO IT AGAIN IF THIS EVER HAPPENS AGAIN.. I WOULDN'T CHANGE A THING EXCEPT FOR ALL THE COPS THAT JUST STOOD THERE LOOKING DUMB I WOULD CHANGE THAT.. THEY SHOULD HAVE WENT AND DID THEIR JOB.. NOT SIT THEIR AND BARK ORDERS AT PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GIVE THEM SUGGESTIONS.. IF THEY CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT THEN WHY WERE THEY EVEN THERE.. BC OF SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.. WHEN A RANDOM LADY HELPS PUSH THE DEER TO SHORE BUT THEY GET CALLED HERO'S.. THEY TAKE CREDIT FOR DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...THATS WHAT THEY ALWAYS DO...SO IF YOU WEREN'T THERE FROM THE BEGINNING YOUR DUMB COMMENTS ARE IRRELEVANT. SO THANKS HAVE A NICE DAY. IM DONT WANT TO BE CALLED A HERO AND THATS NOT WHY I DID IT.. IM AN ANIMAL LOVER.. AND I WILL SAVE ANY ANIMAL BIG OR SMALL WHEN EVER I GET THE CHANCE..
FYI YOUR CAPS LOCK IS ON
CAN YOU PLEASE TURN IT OFF and stop YELLING at everyone.
Thanks.
And Happy Memorial Day.
Now, be fair
Perhaps Kazzy actually works for the National Weather Service.
omg this is great
Who knew a report about deer at the beach could be this entertaining.
It's it weren't already here,
If it weren't already here, I'd recommend the folks at UHub cover this discussion thread!
STOP SHOUTING
Even the National Weather Service has learned how to use lower case letters.
Judging by that and your grammar and punctuation, I would say that your average state trooper might be better equipped to handle an errant deer.
LIFE GUARD TRAINING
Requires no educational degree as a prerequisite.
ADORABLE!!!
WERE YOU SHOUTING AT THE TROOPER THE WHOLE TIME?
CANT FOR THE LIFE OF ME THINK OF WHY HE DIDNT TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.
Ariel Gets Her Wish
That's what happens when a mermaid wishes for legs and isn't specific about species.
Wyquiot or WATEVER ur name is
My caps was on for idiots like you...my grammer wont matter when I'm in roslindale will it??? BET NOT.. so shut your mouth you want to be heard.. BUT you're a nobody.. So bye..
really
anyone who types in all caps is an idiot. And you're a nobody too. We're all nobodies on here, Who knows we all could be programmed bots, and not real people.
And btw.. it's GRAMMAR. Not Grammer. (like the Actor).
Who's the idiot now? not me or Waquiot.
Seriously.. so much emotion for a deer. Maybe you should head out into nature and get rid of some of this excess stress you seem to have about a deer.
Cybah aka adamg
how about you mind your business. Nobody is worried about you.. BUT ALL OF YOU ARE CRYING ABOUT WAT I SAY AND MY " GRAMMAR". Stfu get a life... Nobody over here has aggression, but really tired of all you dumb pple that have something stupid to say.. So GET OFF MY DICK NOW.. BYE BYE
hahaha
You do realize I'm a gay guy right? Yeah.. unless you're really cute, I wouldn't be on your dick :) You'd be on mine.
Maybe YOU should get a life. You keep coming back to argue...
And No I won't get a life. I have a nice one right now thanks.
I've been on this board for 5+ years now.. I'm not going anywhere and nor will I mind my own business. I think you forgot you're on a public board, so anyone can comment on anything they want. Commenting on threads, even if its "butting in" is kind of the point of this board.
Welcome to Universal Hub.
Uhub Pro Tip: Skip the name calling, profanity, and capital letters. You'll go alot further on here when you stop doing that.
PS - I am not AdamG.. AdamG only comments from his own account (adamg)
PPS - AdamG is the owner of this website. I wouldn't exactly piss him off.....
DONT CARE.. GET OFF MY COMMMENTS
The First Law of Internet Commenting
Do not enter comments into the internet if you don't want others to comment on your comments.
And then comment on your comments on a comment on your comments ... (infinity)
Get off my comments
I dont care if ur a fag.. Get off my comments.. They aren't a dick for u to put in ur loose asshole.. N i dont care about this site or adamg.. Wtf.. But mind ur bizz and dont comment on my stuff.. How about that... Get it bitch
Bye
I've blocked your account. We're all obviously way too crude for you and I would hate to think of what this forum is doing to your delicate psyche, so I've done you the favor of keeping you from getting hurt even more.
Off topic, but I wanted to
Off topic, but I wanted to know that you mentioned banning. I just remember that one of the common characters here -- that Markk guy has not posted here in a while. Or at least I haven't see one in a while. Did he got banned or just went on a hiatus (I am going to assume hiatus, as I feel like he the type that always be backone day as long as UHub lives).
Deer murderer!!!
Ok had to let that one out, sorry.
Well that escalated quickly.
Well that escalated quickly.
Sometimes these are the kinds of people we as police have to deal with, who will then turn around and tell others who weren't there that we mistreated them.
It happens quite frequently.
- a Boston Cop
Yet another good reason ...
For dash and body cams.
I'm still left with this one question
No, it's not how someone who is basically an animal sociologist thinks they are a vet. It's how did someone get a PhD without being able to write.
Thanks for the support, man.
FYI: The PhD biologist is not
FYI: The PhD biologist is not the person with the grammar mistakes, maybe learn to read?
Also, An animal behavior specialist is not a vet , BUT knows why animals behave in certain ways and therefore what is best for them to do in situations like this. She knew the animal was scared and that if people didn't back up that the animal would have swam further and deeper in fear of the crowd and probably risk his own life.
Fair enough
The other one got easily conflated with the PhD, since she was shouting loudly, both here and I am guessing at Nantasket Beach. Still, I would rather have an animal control person running the scene, since in a place like Hull I would bet they were trained specifically on how to deal with deer.
Oh Deer
So what are the chances that at least one of the people concerned about the deer on the beach hit and killed one with their within the last few days and the only concern they expressed was for possible damage to the car.
Probably much smaller than
Probably much smaller than the number of concerned bystanders who ordered up a burger for dinner that night. (full disclosure: I too eat meat)
Police have very little training in animal control
The police academy offers very little (if any) training in animal control. For wild animals, the rule of thumb is always "leave them be" unless they are obviously trapped or injured. It seems to me that this case was handled well. The Department of State Police doesn't have animal control and I doubt the Town of Hull has anyone with deer training coming out on a holiday weekend. Even the Environmental Police, who have a boat station down the street in Hingham, attend the same police academy as the locals and Transit. They have specialists in the Large Animal Response Team (LART) but this wasn't a bear or moose nor would they be tranquilize a deer in the water. I remember a panicked 911 call for a "seal on the beach." A senior officer responded with me and radioed back, "Yes, there's a seal on the beach, where he should be. All units clear." A job well done by MSP.
I hereby nominate this thread....
for "Best of uHub" 2016.
The plot twists and turns, the pathos, the threats, the insanity and the banishment! Wow.
And to imagine
Very few of the trigger items were included in this story.
Well, Some People Thought It Was Possible To Adore The Deer
Perhaps the best part
I forgot to mention the poetry!