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They did their job
By adamg on Sat, 01/16/2016 - 7:50pm
27-20. Bring on the next guys.
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Playing with fire, here...
...but could anyone explain to me the "job" Danny Amendola did today? Last time I checked, "aggravated assault and battery" is a crime, not a job
Okay
If you can explain how a tackle that did NOT involve the crown of the helmet (he hit with his shoulder - check the replay dude) is somehow assault and battery.
Tough tackle? Yep. Personal foul? Debatable.
He hit a defenseless player,
He hit a defenseless player, who didn't even have the ball within reach, with full force around or at the neck. We know by now that's exactly the sort of play that leads to brain injuries. He didn't hit him with his helmet, but what does it matter? The intent was to injure, and Lord only knows why.
I grew up playing contact sports through college, football included. Had Danny been a teammate of mine, I'd have cussed his ass out, at best, on the sideline, and I'd be pissed if my coach didn't sit him down for doing something like that.
He was trying to get the ball on the 20, and not the 1.
And in doing so you sometimes need to block the gunners from getting to that football. Gunners can't expect to just run down the field with their heads in the air, because the return team is allowed to block them. You can't make yourself defenseless by just pretending no one is around you while go after the football, especially gunners on a punt. This isn't like a punt return where guys are blocking defenseless players 40 yards+ behind the runner.
That being said, Danny A. went a little high and he really didn't need to make such an aggressive block high against a player who you know couldn't see you. Also however, on special teams plays you can't block below the waist so you have to stay high. But, The penalty was just in my opinion.
You didn't play organized football.
If you don't understand what Amendola was trying to do. He hit the guy too high, which is a penalty. He will likely be fined as well. Tactically, I think the risks (Amendola turning his back to a live football) exceed the reward (10-15 yards of field position) in that scenario and if I were Amendola's coach I would have told him so.
But if you don't understand the strategy behind Amendola trying to prevent that guy from catching the ball, you should either study up on football or stop weighing in on a public forum where your ignorance is exposed.
Yes, very good...
...good for you to get that aggression out. As for your personal point about me, let me take today to call up my high school coaches to let them know about this now undeniable truth about me. I believe I also owe some money to Fordham now; I'll call the development office to work out how to pay back that (admittedly partial) scholarship.
I know good and hell well why Danny Amendola didn't want to let the Chiefs player down the ball at the 2. I also know there are completely clean ways to make that play that don't involve hits that have been proven to cause permanent brain damage, and for which players, both at the college and professional level, have been ejected and suspended for in the past (cf. https://youtu.be/yziMVn0TGSw and https://youtu.be/W3DjQ3CYycI). There is no excuse for drilling a fellow player in the upper body like that—period.
I'm pretty much done with this debate now. I'm happy with calling out bullshit whenever I see it; all you Flavor-aid drinking fans can go off and defend your man, while calling for Vontaze Burfict and Adam Jones to have their head on a stake.
Did you miss the part about it being a penalty and fine worthy?
You are back pedaling pretty swiftly, shabazz. In your first forays into this topic, you didn't make it clear AT ALL that you understood why Amendola would try to prevent the gunner from catching the ball.
In any event, troll job well done. You have suitably shamed patriots fans, who clearly are in favor of inflicting debilitating brain injuries on opposing players.
"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in..."
I'm not backpedaling from a damn thing. Let me quote what I wrote before: "The intent was to injure, and Lord only knows why." I didn't say anything about a football play; I was talking about an attempt to injure—something that had nothing to do with any legitimate football play. Danny Amendola could have played clean and responsibly, but he didn't—point blank, period.
And, hey, I'll gladly agree with you on that last part, so maybe we can come to a friendly agree/disagree situation? Heck, I'd even add in Patriots players and coaches as well onto your comment; just read the media statements and reactions they've put out post-game. WEEI.com is a great place to start. Headline: "Belichick on Amendola hit: 'It was a legal play'". NESN.com is good too: "Danny Amendola Calls Hit ‘Clean,’ Says ‘I’ll Appeal If I’m Getting Fined’".
If you're all set, I think I'm ready to keep watching the Panthers v. Seahawks.
I think...
I think you and anon should get a room and tell each other stories.
Forgive me for using a forum
Forgive me for using a forum for discussion. Next time I'll just stay quiet.
(And based on the response I've gotten here, I'd be hesitant to enter a room with any of the folks. Don't want to get one of those legal, clean concussions!)
Please
It was a penalty because he had already waved for a fair catch. When he does this, he's not allowed to block a gunner. Had he not waved for a fair catch, he wouldn't have been called for a penalty.
He never waived for a fair catch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R__cbTa2nnU
Watch the whole thing here.
And there it is.
"while calling for Vontaze Burfict and Adam Jones to have their head on a stake."
Yes, Shabazz, it's because racism. You figured it out. Comparing either of those two to what Amendola did is downright stupid. First of all, what Amendola did was 100% legal, Burfict and Jones were literally trying to injure not one, but two different players. Also, check the history of the 3, let me know who has demonstrated the inability to act like a normal human on or off the field?
Remind me where I brought up
Remind me where I brought up the race of any player?
(On second thought: don't. Maybe I won't be able to "handle myself like a human" with your response.)
Tough tackle? Not a tackle.
You can't tackle someone who doesn't posses the ball. That's illegal.
And lighting someone up when they're following a punt coming down is pretty much as cheap and dirty as it gets. And he knows that, as a punt returner. Chump.
weird
the NFL actually disagrees with you
chump
A cheap and dirty hit on Amendola's part.
Brady took a similar shot later in the game, also cheap and dirty.
Maybe just me, but that didn't seem like the Patriot Way.
Something I've never seen before
The Dedham Five Guys is usually packed (unlike the neighboring Panda Express). But this was what it looked like at 6:40 tonight (and yes, I had reasons to be there):
reasons:
You required a burger and fries. 'Nuff said. We all understand.
Be more un-American.
Football = wings; not burgers.
Was the lady with the thick Eastern European accent working?
She's seems to be working anytime I've ever gone in there.
Huh!
Never encountered any Slavic women in there. We must go at different times :-).
Do you mean Brazilian?
Someone once explained to me that Portuguese is a Romance language that sounds like Russian. It has biased my hearing of the language.
Also, most of the staff there are Brazillian (I think.)
Portuguese sounds vaguely Slavic...
... only now and then, the rest of the time it sounds like a Romance language. Very mysterious. (Based on my viewing of a number of films by Manoel de Oliveira).
Romanian, perhaps?
I find it difficult to separate someone speaking Romanian from some of the other Romance languages, particularly Portuguese. Romanian pretty much directly sprung from Latin - it is as "Romance" as any language gets - while being based in a predominately Slavic area.
http://unravellingmag.com/articles/romanian-the-forgotten-romance-language/
She could be Brazilian.
But I know many Brazilians and can usually pick up an accent pretty easily. This woman is in charge of getting the orders ready and then yelling out the numbers to customers for take out. She also yells them out to the kitchen staff from the register sometimes. Very distinctive voice and accent.
Nooombear 4 for pickap pleeeese!!!! Noooombear 4!!!
nooombear 4 for pickap?
oh ok, cool.
That looks like heaven on earth.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhhKvXMS2fM
Who Selects The Ducks' Wardrobe?
I'm all for civic pride, but this sort of thing ticks me off. Who gets to decide that the ducks will wear a Patriots jersey? Was it just some random person, and if so, isn't that technically vandalism given that it's (temporarily) defacing a public work of art? Was it put there by the City? If I were the coach of a local youth league, could I petition the city to put one of my team's jersey's on the duck for a day, or is this just one of those things that you have to be a team owned by a billionaire 1%er who once threatened to take his ball away and go to Hartford?
...
You've got to be ducking kidding me.
No, I'm not.
The Patriots are a for-profit business advertising a product. You can't just go and plaster a bunch of advertisements in public spaces without having some kind of permission to do so. Conversely, the Patriots charge money to license their name and image which means you can't just stick their logo anywhere without their permission.
get lost
forever
You're not, huh?
So, you've never ever ever encountered a statue being dressed up in a sports team jersey? Ever? And this strikes you as a major transgression? How do you feel about it when someone barfs on the sidewalk in a "public space"?
I'm sure that you're aware that the Republican Congress has a history of foot-dragging on judicial appointments. That being the case, you might want to refrain from making a federal case over inconsequential nonsense like this.
I Have Encountered Them
And I do think it's a big deal. We all assume that the hometown team somehow represents "us" as a region, and we often take that for granted ignoring the fact that they're just corporations like any other with only a tenuous connection to the city. Sports teams take advantage of our ignorance by demanding (and getting) large tax breaks and government subsidies to build stadiums and improve infrastructure. (Remember the multimillion dollar elevator and walkway over Route 1 that they state was going to pay for because the Patriots couldn't be bothered to cough up their own money?)
I just want to know how this is handled on a legal/policy basis. If some random passerby just put the shirts on the ducks, why are those particular shirts not considered vandalism. If the city authorized the ducks to be decorated like that, how did they put that decide on those shirts and what's the process by which someone can apply to have their own shirts put on the ducks?
A Big Deal
blah blah blah yahda yahda yahda "we" think this and "we" think that. Please, speak for yourself and the mouse in your pocket, and leave the rest of us out of it.
It isn't. Next!
Here's where I call you either a)a liar or b)a person of extremely limited imagination. You claimed to have witnessed the phenomenon of a sports jersey on a statue before, yes? Like for instance on a college campus, where the August Statue of the Founding Father routinely gets dressed up around homecoming? And you were telling the truth when you said that? Are you really under the impression that these dress-ups are ever, ever, anything BUT the act of "some random passerby"? Or perhaps, at most, the action of a self-organized group of fans?
Probably because "vandalism" involves damage or destruction. The shirt isn't super-glued to the duck, and could be removed in five seconds by a park ranger (the LEOs who would be in charge of any "enforcement" here), or anyone else whose hands were not occupied with an ax and a grindstone. You really should try it sometime.
I know what. Why don't you contact the city about it? Call them up and blather, I mean express your concern to them. Find the individual responsible! You deserve answers! Demand a response as to the city policy in this matter. Ask them how you can apply to have your own shirt on the ducks!
The poor person on the other end of the phone (god, I hate doing this to them) is paid to listen to you natter on and not hang up on you, so you can give full vent to your insane conspiracy theory. Nevertheless, in the interest of your own mental health, try listening as they patiently explain that no, the "decoration" of the ducks was not authorized by the city, and no, there was no "decision" to so, and no, there is no "process" by which you can have your own shirt put on the ducks. Then accept their answer for what it is -- truth, not a Patriots-sponsored attempt to mislead you -- hang up the phone, and seek professional help.
Doesn't represent the new Boston
Not the new Boston. Half my neighbors either don't care about sports or cheer for other teams. That's one of the many reasons I love living here.
And bully for them, and you
So you have no sense of place or community or anything. That's fine. I was a Mets fan for a long time, not ashamed to admit it. In the current situation, just means more space for the rest of us at the Super Bowl parade.
You also hate your neighbors
You also hate any of your neighbors who aren't what you call "the new Boston", i.e., anyone who's a recent transplant and whose demographics, income and lifestyle you approve of. I bet you're a ton of fun at your millenial-only parties.
Adam and lbb.....
You guys just fell for one of the worst trolls on this site. Shame on you!!!
For a second I thought you
For a second I thought you were talking about SBY. Hopefully that still applies, though.
Agree...
Considering the Patriots lack of morals over the years this should not be allowed:
1. Spygate
2. Defaltegate
3. Julian Edalman's sex assault charge
4. hiring a serial killer as their Tight End (oh how quickly we forget about Aaron Hernandez
No other team has this kind of history.
Go BRONCOS!
Sexual assault allegations taint an organization and player?
"In 1996, while attending the University of Tennessee, Manning, while being examined by a female trainer, pulled down his shorts as she bent over behind him to examine his foot to determine why it was hurting,[227] and she has claimed he then sat on her face and proceeded to rub his anal area and testicles on her face until she pushed him up off of her." It gets worse than that, by the way.
I suppose you're also ignoring the PED allegations too.
lol, just lol
now now now
A serial killer is someone who's committed at least three separate murders, usually for the sake of some abnormal psychological gratification. True, Hernandez (allegedly) killed three people, but there's a difference between a lowlife murderer and, say, a Ted Bundy.
Do you lie all the time, or just when you're talking or typing?
I swear, you're like a walking DSM with your nutty delusions and obsessions. You really should move somewhere where your form of mental illness is more functional, like maybe Nebraska. Then you won't be annoyed by the myriad failures to meet your standards of long-term residents of the neighborhood you just moved to, the annoying habit of many residents of the city in which you reside to cheer for that city's/region's sports teams, and the uncomfortable truths about "Defaltegate" and a criminal charge that was dropped because both witness statements and video evidence made it clear that Edelman did not "intentionally [engage] in a harmful or offensive touching of the complainant that would be regarded by society as immodest, immoral, and improper." I won't bother to go into the laugher known as Spygate, nor into Aaron Hernandez, because I know that you don't actually know anything either about football or the facts in either situation, nor do you care -- you're just grinding the same stupid attention-seeking ax. IOW, you're an obnoxious crazy. Go institutionalize yourself somewhere.
The Ducks Are Government Property, Right?
You can find a similar case for every one of those in our governmental organizations (spying, cheating, sexual assault allegations, murder). So, does that make it OK and we can dress up the little bronze duck? Or do we have to dress up the little bronze duck in a Broncos shirt because Peyton Manning's use of HGH hasn't yet been before a judge like Tom Brady's deflated balls were?
I'm not one to say "first world problem", but if this doesn't qualify... I mean, come on. It's a little bronze duck wearing a t-shirt. Can't we just all be Elmer on this one, say "Adorable!", and move on?
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Come on
You're a better troll than this.
1. Cameras in the wrong place. Paid fine and took penalty.
2. Never happened. https://sports.yahoo.com/news/1-year-after-deflate-gate-ballooned--scien...
3. Never happened. Charges were dropped. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/12/15/sex-assault-charges-against-julian...
4. Wasn't a "serial killer" when hired, or a killer at all (as far as we know).
Let's take a look at the Broncos and all of their cheating. PED violations?
DL Daryl Gardener (2003)
LB Lee Flowers (2003)
WR Adrian Madise (2004)
P Todd Sauerbrun (2006)
DE Kenny Peterson (2007)
TE Virgil Green (2012)
LB D.J. Williams (2012)
DT Ryan McBean (2012)
G Quentin Saulsberry (2012)
LB Von Miller (2013) - Substance abuse, but cheated urine collection system
WR Wes Welker (2014)
DE Derek Wolfe (2015)
How about Salarycap-gate? On September 17, 2004, the league announced that, for the second time in three years, the Denver Broncos were fined nearly a million dollars and would, once again, lose their third-round draft pick because of salary cap violations between 1996 and 1998.
How about spying, did the Broncos ever try it? In 2010, the Broncos self-reported that former team director of video operations Steve Scarnecchia had videotaped a portion of the San Francisco walk-through practice before a game between the two teams in London. The Broncos were fined $50,000 for the violation and former head coach Josh McDaniels was fined $50,000 for not reporting it.
There's more, but (hopefully) you get the point. Be a better troll.