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Drivers might want to avoid Forest Hills this weekend; 38 and 39 bus riders will board in a different place

MassDOT reports crews will shut the intersection of South and New Washington streets in Forest Hills this weekend for work related to the Casey Overpass replacement project.

The intersection will be shut at 10 p.m. on Friday and re-open at 5 a.m. on Monday, MassDOT says.

During these operations, South Street between the Arborway and the Monument will be local access only and pedestrians should cross New Washington Street at the intersection with Washington Street. Access from the Lower Busway to South Street will be maintained at all times.

The MBTA bus routes 38 and 39 will operate from the lower busway at Forest Hills Station during these impacts. Both routes will be detoured via McBride Street and Williams Street between Washington Street and South Street. The following bus stops will also not be served: South Street at Spalding Street, South Street at Saint Rose Street, and South Street at Child Street.

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It is going to be Carmageddon all over again.

If the State could have kept to a schedule all this would be over by now. Imagine how long it would have taken them to build a new bridge instead?

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Just as long, and it would remain a neighborhood slicing, car-centric POS infrastructure built for the convenience of suburbanites and passers through.

The job is almost done. Most of washington south is in the new alignment, all the shea circle stuff is done, and what's there is way nicer and makes improvements for people who actually take public transportation. The new northern headhouse alone makes the work all worth it.

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I don't appreciate walking across 8 lanes of traffic, rather than the few surface lanes that used to be there.

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When the Route 38 was extended from The Monument to Green Street Station (the original station) buses looped via McBride. Around 1961 the loop was modified to include Forest Hills Station. For a time you even had the Route 48 (created in 1973 as Route 595) running nearby on Elm and Sedgwick. The routing serving this section of JP was eliminated for good as part of the infamous 1981 service cuts.

Now turning Route 39 artics from South onto McBride... That'll be a sight to see...

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Looks like they've changed the detouring since Adam's original post. 38 and 39 buses will continue to operate from Upper busway, but will exit left to Ukraine Way and head off up Hyde Park Ave/Washington Street to who knows where. South Street will be closed to all but local traffic, and no bus stops between the Monument and the Arborway will be served for the duration of this work. Many of the suggested detours wander off around the Arboretum via South/Bussey/Walter/Centre (clockwise) or Centre/Walter/Bussey/South (counterclockwise). I expect this to be quite a mess for much of the weekend. And I certainly don't envy the guy that wrote the memo explaining suggested routes.

But gaining permanent alignment through the South/Arborway intersection North/South (and more lanes to/from Rozzie) should be a big improvement in the North/South flow. Once the central, currently Station-side, portion of the Arborway gets on its permanent alignment flow will be better still. Here's the text of the email:
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Project Advisory – Reconstruction of South Street/New Washington Street

Beginning at 10PM on Friday, December 1st and running in a continuous operation through 5AM on Monday, December 4th, the intersection of South Street/New Washington Street will be reconstructed for its final alignment.

During the operation, South Street/New Washington Street will close to all traffic. South Street between the Arborway and the Monument will be local access only and the following detours go into effect:

From the south to Arborway eastbound (towards Shea Square), motorists should:
Turn right on Ukraine Way;
Turn left on Hyde Park Avenue; and,
Turn right onto the Arborway eastbound.
From the south to Arborway westbound (towards the Arboretum) and points north (towards the Monument) on South and Centre streets, motorists should:
Turn left on Ukraine Way;
Turn right on Washington Street;
Turn left on South Street;
Turn right on Bussey Street;
Turn right on Walter Street;
Turn right on Centre Street; and,
Follow Centre Street to the Monument.
From the north to Arborway westbound (towards the Arboretum), motorists should:
Proceed through the intersection of New Washington Street/Washington Street onto Hyde Park Avenue;
Turn right on Ukraine Way;
Turn right on Washington Street;
Turn left on South Street;
Turn right on Bussey Street;
Turn right on Walter Street;
Turn right on Centre Street; and,
Access the Arborway westbound at Murray Circle.
Eastbound (towards Shea Square) through traffic on the Arborway will:
Turn right on South Street;
Turn left on Ukraine Way;
Turn left on Hyde Park Avenue; and,
Turn right on the Arborway.
Southbound (towards Roslindale Square) on South Street traffic will:
Travel south (towards Murray Circle and the Arboretum) on Centre Street;
Enter the eastbound (towards Shea Square) Arborway at Murray Circle; and,
Turn right onto Washington Street.
During the operation, pedestrians should cross New Washington Street at the intersection with Washington Street. A safe access from the Lower Busway to South Street will be maintained at all times.

During the weekend operation, MBTA bus routes 38 and 39 will operate from the upper busway at Forest Hills Station as normal. Both routes will be detoured such that we following bus stops will not be served: South Street at Spalding Street, South Street at Saint Rose Street, South Street at Jamaica Street, South Street at Child Street, South Street at Carolina Avenue, and South Street at Bardwell Street.

Appropriate signage will be placed for all modes

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Does anyone know if cars will be able to turn right off the Arborway just past the Arboretum to get onto Washington Street?

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It does seem that this route will be available. See the detouring map here:
http://www.jamaicaplainnews.com/2017/11/29/casey-arborway-update-it-aint...

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I read your directions last night and got lost in my head. The map clarifies a lot.

Thanks.

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