Kara recounts an incident with a stranger on the Red Line last October.
His hand brushes my shoulder and he leans in, “Hey.”
I don’t say anything. I turn my head. “Sorry. I’m a little drunk,” he says. I’m still frozen. That’s when he reaches down and slowly strokes my boot from ankle to knee.
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I'm going to make the assumption here....
By Bob Leponge
Thu, 10/19/2017 - 11:49am
... that pretty much everyone on this thread, including the people who are yelling at me, and the people who are yelling back at them, is a fundamentally good person who sincerely wants to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Beating people up because their (entirely reasonable) anger gets in the way of their persuasive effectiveness, or because you don't like the way they argue, or because you think they aren't sufficiently woke, doesn't move anybody forward. At all. Fight the real enemy.
Bob, you do realize
By anon
Fri, 10/20/2017 - 9:21am
that this is not about you, right?
You have done a great job hijacking this story to talk about how great and generous of a businessman and father you are.
Good for you and whatnot, but I hope that in your brilliance and progressiveness and perfect-man-ness, you realize that you are still part of the problem. I know it's hard not to be the center of attention, but give it a shot.
WOW!
By anon
Thu, 10/19/2017 - 12:49pm
lookit all these menz telling us wimminz how we should react, how we should behave, what's best for us.
guess what? your need to constantly be the protagonists is a central part of the problem.
be quiet. listen. learn. stop. talking. you do not know everything and until you have to live with the reality that every day is potential harassment in big and small ways (which later, men will claim is "nothing" or a "compliment" or call you "crazy" for objecting), you have absolutely nothing to say. look inward, deal with your own issues and help your brothers, sons, nephews, friends and colleagues to do the same.
Let's follow this through,
By thesandal
Fri, 10/20/2017 - 8:33am
Let's follow this through, because I see a lot of men here who want to help. If personal stories and hearing form friends and relatives helps you to understand the magnitude of the problem more than statistics, it's because this is otherwise a bit difficult to relate to, since it doesn't happen to you. This is normal and I'm glad for any man who has admitted this and still makes an effort. By that same logic, don't shout down women with your advice about how to handle these situations. You've already admitted that you inherently don't relate to or understand what is happening. Yes, teaching young girls that they have autonomy over their own bodies will help, and that is patently a good thing anyway. However, "self defense," in many of these situations, will make harassment drastically worse. We know this. You don't.
Don't make women do the emotional labor of explaining this again and again. Please just listen.
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