By adamg on Tue., 2/12/2019 - 12:06 pm 
The folks at the Boston City Archives wonder if you can place this old elevated disaster. See it larger.
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Dudley
By eeka
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 12:23pm
1910
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By Dave
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 12:52pm
https://www.universalhub.com/node/24212
Same view today
By eeka
Wed, 02/13/2019 - 3:34pm
https://imgur.com/a/svOExr0
About the only thing still there that's visible in this photo is the Dartmouth Hotel.
summer st bridge disaster
By bostnkid
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 12:31pm
nov 7 1916. 46 passengers killed.
eeka wins. (edit)
Summer Street
By anon
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 12:42pm
Adam covered it on the 100th anniversary. It was at night, and the train went into the Channel.
...and that was a straight
By Rob
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 1:42pm
...and that was a straight run, not a curve.
This one is wild. The car ended up at right angles to the track.
crash
By nobody
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 12:24pm
Beach and Harrison streets
Chinatown 1928
By Charles Bahne
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 12:43pm
Beach Street at Harrison Avenue, on the Atlantic Avenue Elevated line, July 22, 1928.
Washington Street near Circuit
By The Fox 915
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 12:56pm
Washington Street near Circuit St., Roxbury by the old Carbarn
I take my earlier comment back...
By Charles Bahne
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 1:18pm
Eeka is correct... Dudley station, August 4, 1910. The train was coming from Forest Hills with no passengers, only the motorman, who was killed.
An easy way to tell is that only a single track is shown, since it was on the south leg of the original loop at Dudley. The Chinatown accident was on a double-track section.
Good to hear from Eeka, by the way!!
Hi!
By eeka
Wed, 02/13/2019 - 3:35pm
*waves*
Original Dudley Loop
By dmk
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 2:38pm
This is the original Dudley St Station Loop. Trains outbound circled the station and stopped at the "big" platform that allowed doors to open on both sides when the line was in its infancy.
When the extension to Forest Hills was added, they added the outbound platform that connected the main station via a long pedestrian walkway and rebuilt the loop area.
The loop was retained but barely used after the extension to Forest Hills was opened. In the years immediately preceding the "el's closure, the loop sections were removed and replaced with standard rail.
I can tell by the smell
By anon
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 2:48pm
The Great Molasses Flood.
For The Curious...
By Div2Supt
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 3:16pm
The only fatality of this wreck was the motorman, Thomas Manning. Before working on the Elevated Division he had been a streetcar motorman out of Division Five {South Boston}. He was "running light" from Forest Hills to the Guild Street Shops. The final words he is attested to have ever said to another person were: "I think she has." {Someone at Forest Hills had asked him if he thought his train had flat spots on its wheels before he rolled out.} It seems he became incapacitated at some point after leaving Forest Hills. The towerman at Interlocking Tower F {from which this photo was taken; and still present at Dudley in a different location} was startled to see Manning's train roaring towards the Dudley curve. Under typical conditions the train would have been eased up to Dudley, the switches for the move into Guild Street would have been set up and Manning would have changed ends to move into the yard.
The investigation ruled out intoxication and mechanical malfunction. Immediately thereafter the El mandated all trains making such light moves were to always have at least two people aboard.
Amazingly, over the nearly 87 years of operation, this was one of just three major accidents on the elevated.
DISASTER
By GROVER
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 3:15pm
DUDLEY STREET
Hi-Res Version...
By tcf098
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 3:33pm
In case you'd like to see the photo in high resolution.
You can even see the detail on the men's faces. Quite incredible.
It's a glass plate negative
By anon
Tue, 02/12/2019 - 4:27pm
The aspect ratio matches that of a quarter-plate negative, which is 4.25" by 3.25". Assuming that's what it is, even a modern professional digital medium-frame camera shooting 50MP probably has less data than that negative; possibly vastly less.
Online sources suggest that a frame of 135 format film (35mm) has the equivalent of 15-25MP of data. A quarter plate is 10x larger by area, so we'd be looking at 150-250 MP worth of data.
I'm doing a lot of handwaving going on with regards to the emulsion technology and lens technology changing over the last 100 years (and I'm ignoring issues of actual resolution; given you can see the detail on the men's faces, it's obviously quite good), but you'd be hard pressed to do worse than 50MP with a negative of that size.
Thanks for the info, that's
By tcf098
Wed, 02/13/2019 - 7:16am
Thanks for the info, that's very interesting! Especially considering a modern 50MP would still contain vastly less information than this negative. Fascinating stuff.
The Answer
By Boston City Archives
Wed, 02/13/2019 - 9:06am
Thanks for playing, folks! Those of you who guessed the August 4, 1910 derailment at Dudley Station are correct. This photograph is from our Boston Elevated Railway collection.
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By jmeltzer
Wed, 02/13/2019 - 9:55am
after a more-than-usually bad argument/flamewar over < name your issue > .
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