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Markey, Pressley safe as fascists storm Capitol; Moulton blasts coup attempt
By adamg on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:31pm
At 2:44 p.m., US Sen. Ed Markey reported:
I and my staff are safe, sheltering in place, and following the guidance and protocols of Capitol Police.
He added:
There’s a word for what is happening on the Senate and House floors - it’s called sedition. All these unfounded objections to state electors are seditious. They are nothing short of an insurrection against the established order of the Constitution and our democratic republic.
He later added:
Donald Trump is responsible for the coup that is unfolding at the Capitol. He is a fascist and a direct threat to our country.
— Ed Markey (@EdMarkey) January 6, 2021
Sarah Groh, Rep. Ayanna Pressley's chief of staff, tweeted:
Ayanna Pressley and I are currently safe. Thank you for your messages.
US Rep. Seth Moulton addressed the Nazis in the Capitol:
This is anarchy. This is an attempted coup. And it’s happening in America because of lawless lawmakers. That they are colleagues makes me embarrassed and sad for our country.
— Seth Moulton (@sethmoulton) January 6, 2021
We are being told to shelter in place not because of a foreign terrorist attack but because of a domestic coup attempt. I expected this as a US Marine in Iraq. I never imagined it as a US Congressman in America.
— Seth Moulton (@sethmoulton) January 6, 2021
Rep. Lori Trahan writes:
Members of my staff and I are sheltering in place in the Capitol complex. We are safe and awaiting further direction from Capitol Police.
I am praying for the officers, members, staff and reporters who are in danger, and for our nation on this dark, dark day.— Congresswoman Lori Trahan (@RepLoriTrahan) January 6, 2021
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If only the US Capitol...
...was a Target or a statue of a Confederate general!
Make America Great Again...by invading and vandalizing the Capitol. This is a physical attack on the US government.
Call it what it is
Treason.
And those seditious jackasses who set the stage for this and who are now decrying the lawlessness of it? You can't shake the devil's hand and say you are only kidding.
But I'm sure Susan Collins is concerned and is sure that this will never happen again!
Agreed
Yes, those who went onto the floor of the House committed Treason. Maybe some others. I totally agree. And, if convicted, the punishment for Treason is Death.
Are you willing to accept the rule and execution of law? I am.
It's not that cut and dry
It's closer to being treason than a lot of things people call treason, but as bad as it is, the standard of treason is war, which this isn't exactly, although you could possibly make the case that it was close enough to war to count, since it's not like you need a battlefield and uniforms for it to be treason. And also, the death penalty isn't the punishment for treason, treason is just one of the few crimes where the death penalty is an option. Of the few people who have ever been convicted of treason in the United States, several of them ended up being merely imprisoned, and not even life without parole. People shouldn't let their anger at the current situation distract them from the general principle that the death penalty is bad. But the flip side of that is that people should stop acting like treason is the absolute worst crime you can be charged of, which isn't how the legal system works at all. There's quite a lot of crimes that you can charge someone for breaking into the capitol building with quasi-terroristic intent to steal an election, and they could be seriously punished without using the magic word of treason. (Although it'd be harder to classify it as a capital crime without that charge.)
Stealing one from the
Stealing one from the Democrat’s playbook.
Please Tell the Class, Dear
When did the Democratic party urge people to storm the government to prevent lawful and constitutionally required activities from happening in service of a coup?
I'll wait ... not that you will reply. I'll wait for you to shove it up your treason loving ass. While WHINING about senate elections and "IT MUST BE STOLEN BECAUSE MAGA" of course
Bye
That's it. There's no both-sides-ism anymore. This was an act of rebellion against the lawfully elected Congress. You'll need to find someplace else to pull this crap.
Thank you
.
TREASON
Senhor Cruz, led the charge. He’s a spineless, poor excuse for a human being! He should be charged with crimes! Trump should be muted, and re-impeached. Article whatever it is. This is embarrassing. I’m sick of these “political prostitutes”.
shut the fuck up, idiot
in 2016 you fuckwads were laughing and calling liberals "snowflakes" because they were crying about the election, not scaling walls at the fucking capitol.
and apostrophes aren't used for pluralization.
Apostrophe
He is an idiot, and a fuckwad, and he should shut the fuck up, but I think he was using the apostrophe to indicate possession (of the playbook). Being an idiot fuckwad, he did this incorrectly, which may be the source of the confusion.
Sorry, I'm a bit obsessive about punctuation. Plus I wanted to get in on calling him an idiot and a fuckwad.
the proverbial Democrat?
based on their posting history, that seems like a more sophisticated rhetorical turn than our friend can muster. i'd be more inclined to believe it was intentional had they written Democrats'. i'll allow for the possibility though.
I'm really happy that in
I'm really happy that in difficult times we can still get together and calmly discuss grammar (does punctuation count as grammar?).
If we lose that, we've lost it all.
My comma...
Went to Oxford.
Punctuation is not grammar
any more than spelling is. It's orthography. A language has a grammar even if it's never written down.
I think the plural was intended
which would make it "the Democrats' playbook". That's why I said he did it incorrectly.
Getting it wrong doesn't make someone an idiot, but an idiot is extremely likely to get it wrong.
Not being an ass
However, would it not be more proper for you to include a comma after the word “Plus?”
Style, not grammar
No, that's a matter of style, not grammar. In this sentence "plus" is being used as a conjunction (some think that beginning a sentence with a conjunction is incorrect, but they are wrong). To see that the comma is not necessary, consider a compound sentence that uses "plus" as a conjunction:
"Murkin is a fuckwad, plus he's an idiot."
Here "plus" is a substitute for "and", useful in this context because it emphasizes the intention to pile on; fuckwad, idiot, it just keeps adding up. Adding a comma after the "plus" may increase the emphasis, but the sentence is meaningful without it. Replacing "plus" with "and" makes this more obvious.
My childhood grocer would
beg to differ on apostrophes. I wanted to bring Wite-Out with me every time I walked into that store as a cranky, bookish ten-year-old. But as a professional writer, I always have room in my heart, even in times of grave national crisis, for grammar pedantry. It's like a cool breeze on a scorching summer day to me. In the words of Gyles Brandreth, from his brilliant "The Joy of Lex":
* Don't use no double negatives.
* Make each pronoun agree with their antecedent.
* Join clauses good, like a conjunction should.
* About them sentence fragments.
* When dangling watch your participles.
* Verbs has to agree with their subjects.
* Just between you and I, case is important too.
* Don't write no run-on sentences they are hard to read.
* Don't use commas, which aren't necessary.
* Try not to oversplit infinitives. [N.B. This phrasing baffles me a bit, too, but Gyles is a Brit, and you get the point.]
* It is important to use apostrophe's correctly.
* Proofread your writing to if any words out.
* Correct spelling is esential.
My personal apostrophe-themed favorite:
* It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too it's hers: it isn't her's. It isn't our's either: it's ours, and likewise yours and theirs.
And finally:
* As a general rule of thumb, cross out every word you have written. You have no idea what vigor it will give your style. [Democracy-hating Trumpies, take note.]
You left one out
Prepositions are not something to end sentences with.
Such grammatical wisdom is
hard by which to come.
Wow
Thanks for announcing that you don’t understand the difference between property crime and sedition. Your support of 45 makes sense.
Ummm, no
You protest the government, not businesses that happen to have all those nice flat screens and Canada gooses. Say what you want about the rightie nutjobs but they’re actually doing it right.
Correction on Moulton's tweet
Correction on Moulton's tweet: This is not anarchy. This is fascism. They are vastly different.
Anarchy can be a means to fascism
In fact. it's standard operating procedure. Create chaos and lawlessness, delegitimize existing authority, then move in.
This is some horseshoe theory
This is some horseshoe theory nonsense.
Yes, anarchists are a lot
Yes, anarchists are a lot better organized than this. Anarchism isn't about chaos, it's about opposing top-down authority and oppression. Consensus and mutual aid are central to anarchism.
These schmucks aren't anarchists; they're all about top-down authority and oppression; they just want to be the oppressors.
Exactly! Thank you.
Exactly! Thank you.
Organized anarchists
I had thought that the idea of a Central Committee of Anarchists that dictates to the world what constitutes Correct Anarchist Doctrine was purely the province of comedians.
Words have meanings. I think
Words have meanings. I think you're conflating anarchism with any sort of chaos, which is not accurate.
If you're interested in a better explanation than I'm able to provide, here's a good one from a prominent linguist and anarchist (Chomsky):
The word "anarchy"
is thousands of years old (in Greek), and has been part of the English language since the 16th century. It means "no government". Neither you nor Chomsky can claim it as your own special word that everybody has to use the way you use it.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were speaking ancient Greek. Carry on!
this doesn’t really refute what he’s saying though
“no government” =/= chaos
not to split hairs, but...
There's a reasonable distinction to be drawn between "anarchy" and "anarchism." Anarchy is the state of lawlessness; anarchism is the political philosophy that espouses a society without coercive government. To say that the situation during the invasion of the Capitol was an instance of anarchy is not to say that that invasion exemplified anarchism or that the perpetrators of the invasion were anarchists.
What have we proven today?
The MAGAs aren't any better behaved than the people they claim to hate for their behavior.
furthermore
this is the finishing touch on them doing everything they predicted Obama and "the left" would do between 2008-2016
State-level copy cats?
Given what happens during the “liberate Michigan” armed state house invasion and the terrible behavior of the PA GOP legislators yesterday, when do MAGAs start to invade and terrorize their local state Capitols?
It's happening
SLC, Salem OR, Sacramento. Hearing BPD is on some level of alert.
Since You Live 100 Miles Away
The MSP has stopped flying over the Common. People are going about their business.
Nothing is happening in Boston by the rednecks.
Although, the Constitution sounds like it used extra gunpowder in the sunset shot tonight.
What is your problem?
What does that have to do with anything, you insane stalker freak? Learn to read, idiot.
Adam, block function, please. I'm sick and tired of this asshole and his gratuitously antagonistic bullshit.
Adam
Can we block people calling me names because they don't like be talked back too?
wait
Isn't John Costello a bot?
Whirlybirds
I've been hearing helicopters consistently all evening; are they not flying over the State House?
They have already been
They have already been reported to have broken into the Kansas State House. Many other state capitols are being shut down. Some have armed protestors / terrorists hanging around outside.
I'd be interested to know what's going on at the Mass. State House, but I feel fairly confident that it's secure.
So far, so good on Beacon Street
For a couple reasons: State and Boston Police, for all their other faults, know how to deal with large, snarling crowds, including the fascists who have shown up at the State House from time to time.
Also, our small band of neo-Nazis are down in DC today.
Let's not forget about Super
Let's not forget about Super Fun Happy America...
https://news.yahoo.com/well-fight-tooth-nail-bus-165610232.html
Some info on other states
Start with this tweet.
Photo of the breach of the
Photo of the breach of the Kansas State House
Meanwhile, Trump is at the
Meanwhile, Trump is at the controls at FederalDistrict311, marking each report of "riot", "insurrection", "mob violence", etc... as closed.
Shame on law enforcement response
I am positive federal law enforcement monitors social media and should have known this was coming. They should have had a much larger contingent at the start.
Guess who controls the national guard contingent?
Trump.
Which only adds to the treasonous intent of his sending them in, of course.
i wonder why they didn't prepare more...
...
Impeach him now, Pressley says
Impeach
One sanction available via impeachment is preventing the impeached office holder from holding federal office in the future. This remedy would serve both the country and the Republican Party in 2024.
He Can't Run Again
Hard to be in the NH primaries when you live in Sochii.
Yalta.
Sochii's a little downmarket.
Article 25?
If ever there was a time, but it requires the VP to be on board and, well...
other congress-folk
Any news on Elizabeth Warren? Or our other reps?
Now they are acting like
Now they are acting like antifa. I guess this is the new behavior when you don’t get what you want.
LOL
“Like Antifa”.
This a clown opinion. Cite examples.
Since Republicans Are Transactional In Nature
Minneapolis Target Store Burning equals attacking the US Capitol to block the enshrouding of a new president.
You are correct
...but the crazy part is the right wing were the vandals who invited the Minneapolis fires. It was a member of the Aryan Cowboys who burned up that Auto Zone that spread to the adjacent Target.
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/police-umbrella-m...
And it was the right wing Boogaloo Bois who burnt the Minneapolis PD precinct.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boogaloo-bois-member-charged-attack-minn...
Funny how people like the above commenter keep “mistaking” these incidents as being initiated by “Antifa”. I’m sure it’s a totally honest mistake.
“Republican “
“Republican “
What a fucking dork you must be
Remind me again
Which political party is it that’s been arguing for decades that the 2nd Amendment is the most important one and that every American needs to be armed and ready to use violence to defend their rights?
Whatever dude
You'd be wise to note that the late "Murkin" is no more.
Shhhhh...
n/t
duplicate
delete
Murkin
is now a gherkin.
Pickled.
jmelzer, you've already...
jmelzer, you've already...
jmelzer, you've already...
jmelzer, you've already...
jmelzer, you've already...
...outwitted Magoo at their game, and with about 100x the wit, originality, and creativity...
Whataboutism: Treason Edition
Got another false equivalance/whataboutism/both sidesism trator here.
Cleanup on Aisle Q!
Trump will be remembered
Along with Benedict Arnold and Aaaron Burr as a Traitor to our nation.
White peoples be lying
I don’t believe white people when they’re like “I don’t believe this” “I never thought this could happen” because:
1. Thai is what you say to everything that makes white people look bad. It’s what you said about police brutality and racism.
2. These are your friends and family, you’ve met them talked to them and know where they stand. They spill more tea to you than me.
The most pathetic sore losers
The most pathetic sore losers in history. Imagine being scammed by the worlds most obvious con man.
Don't call them "sore losers."
Sore losers are for games and sports. This is a little more serious than that.
Praying hard. Stop the
Praying hard. Stop the madness!
I just decided I needed the
I just decided I needed the healing of good comedy . So I chose Dave Chappelle's Mark Twain Award ceremony on Netflix. Guess what? This situation calls for the Care Bear Stare!
Ed Markey Safe?
Thank heavens Ed let us know.
I can now release my pearls from my death grip.
What's wrong with you?
He was one of many who posted their situation to social media for the benefit of people who weren't getting any good information. What on earth is wrong with you?
And also we are on a Boston news site
Adam has reason to prioritize the local connection to this story, since this is a local news blog, so when he writes about national news he usually emphasizes the local connection. So it's not like Markey thought his personal safety was headline news, but it's good that he was able to get that information out, and then when local news blogger Adam G wrote a story about it, he wrote it in a way that prioritized that.
Let us know, nino, the next time you survive being caught in a
building that had been stormed by armed goons. I'm sure you will tell us how you stoically refrained from notifying your loved ones and colleagues that you were safe.