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Ad for the ol Jamaica Theatre
By gotdatwmd
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:06pm
Ad for the ol Jamaica Theatre there, could be a hint?
JP?
By MassMouse
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:10pm
Hmm, Centre Street JP. OMG - IS THE E LINE COMING BACK?!
/humor
Dudley
By CS
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:12pm
Dudley
I agree, Type 4 on the
By anon
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:47pm
I agree, Type 4 on the Jamaica-Dudley line (today's Route 41 bus) at the Dudley west loop
Greenline (Arlington station)
By nitefly
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:14pm
Greenline (Arlington station)
It looks blue.
By Dave
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:39pm
It looks blue.
Contextual clues
By Kaz
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:19pm
Read the signs. This is the Prepayment Station stop.
Look at the train and the station and what color they are. It's an old stop on the Blue line.
The photo is from May 2, 1920. You'll have to figure out which context clue I used for that one on your own.
Came here to say that :)
By Dave
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:38pm
It was the station below Prepayment St. in the center of Newstead Montegrade.
Obviously...
By Suldog
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 2:03pm
... it's one of the old calendar cars. The T used to provide so many nice extra services in those days.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Umm
By cybah
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 3:44pm
Colors were not used until 1964 with the formation of the MBTA.
I believe the predecessors used numbers instead of colors.
I'm inclined to say this is Dudley also, or Pleasant Street (incline)
Are you Drax?
By Kaz
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 3:48pm
http://youtu.be/migmxXB47-0?t=38s
huh?
By cybah
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 4:08pm
I don't get the reference..
Edit: I had to look who he was.. still kinda don't get the reference. but okay.. something about a destroyer.
Dialogue is key
By Kaz
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 5:13pm
In the movie, one of the funniest lines is where I queued the YouTube link:
Rocket (the anthropomorphic raccoon) speaking about Drax: "His people are completely literal. Metaphors go over his head."
Drax the Destroyer: "NOTHING goes over my head! My reflexes are too fast, I would catch it."
I said it was the blue line because the picture is desaturated to a total blue color, not because I actually think the train is part of the blue line. But I'm sure it didn't go over your head. Your reflexes are too fast, you would catch it.
Elevated green line @ north
By anon
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:22pm
Elevated green line @ north sta?
Boylston outbound?
By Ron Newman
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:46pm
Not Boylston
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 2:15pm
Boylston was underground. This is clearly an elevated (note sunbeam above train).
It Appears To Be A Modal Transfer Station ...
By Elmer
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 4:25pm
… note that the prepayment entrance gate is for passengers who have disembarked from the trolly and are heading into the station, presumably to board some other transit vehicle which could be either elevated or underground.
Look behind the trolley
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 08/07/2014 - 1:30pm
It looks almost like North Station. It is kind of familiar - like when you had to go upstairs to get from a C or D line and get on an E to Lechmere.
This could be where the viaduct ended and people had to go down into the subway?
Why a duck?
By Kaz
Thu, 08/07/2014 - 2:08pm
I don'ta see-a no duck.
I'm probably totally wrong
By BikerGeek
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:53pm
but I'm gonna guess Lechmere, 1917-1918. The station arrangement reminds me vaguely of the inbound platform at Lechmere, and the "Give Blood" sign was probably for the war effort.
I was thinking Lechmere
By Andrew8-8000
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 1:58pm
as well.
How about a map to help us?
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 2:17pm
Curves coming into stations - this was the system map in the 1920s:
[img]http://www.masshist.org/imhs/cms/assets/cms1/eleva...
I wonder if it was Battery St., Dover, Sullivan Square or Rowes Wharf? Possibly the end of the Cambridge Viaduct at North Station, before it went underground. It looks to be above ground (on the elevated) given the light above the tracks.
Also note the war appeal sign (probably money and stuff, not blood) - 1918 is possible.
Where is the notorious Dudley
By kvn
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 2:17pm
Where is the notorious Dudley curve on your map ?
I don't have pages 21-24
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 2:18pm
Can't say. Could be Dudley as well.
Definitely elevated, definitely curved leading into a station.
Dudley @ 1910http://www
By kvn
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 4:18pm
Dudley @ 1910
http://www.bostonstreetcars.com/dudley-square.html
Egelston trolley action, nice pic but no help as a clue,
http://www.bostonstreetcars.com/uploads/2/0/7/4/20...
Nice links!
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 4:49pm
Such awesomeness - but doesn't seem to match the photo (unless it is the indoor line).
Swirls , the first photo was
By kvn
Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:14am
Swirls , the first photo was to illustrate the Dudley curve. The second was Egelston station, for your viewing pleasure. But with respect to Dudley station of old, It was an emporium of transportation, different levels , ramps , buses , trains , trolleys , action city.even walking distance to a furniture store that laid in the fork of the tracks, said building soon to become the new Boston Public Schools offices. But you still have to watch your shopping bags around there, even as I type the Foxes announce a stabbing , Warren @ Dudley.
Neat Map
By Suldog
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 2:23pm
Thanks for sharing it. I love old transit maps.
It may not truly be helpful, though. Dudley, for instance - which I think this may be - had multiple trolley/bus ramps that wouldn't show on such a map.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Dudley
By Waquiot
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 2:24pm
No free transfer there.
My first gut feeling was the Pleasant Street Incline, but my guess is that Pleasant Street would be brighter.
Hmm...
By Div2Supt
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 2:43pm
The 10 cent fare puts the date after the 1918 fare increase. The August 1919 car requirements only called for a few lines to be run with Type 4s. Lines using the loops at Dudley were Norfolk-Dudley and Jamaica-Dudley. This looks like the West Loop, so it would have to be a Jamaica Plain car. Apparently, riding was so heavy they needed to run trailers during the rush hours! A far cry from the loads on the 41 today.
If only we could read the sign!
For the curious...
By Div2Supt
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 10:52pm
Some other lines running with Type 4s during the summer of 1919:
Mattapan Square - Egleston Square via Blue Hill Avenue
Neponset - Andrew Square via Dorchester Avenue
Lenox Street - North Station via Tremont Street
Jamaica - North Station via Huntington
Watertown - Park Street (old "A" Line)
Watertown - Allston
Harvard - Pleasant & Appleton
Sullivan - Elm Street
Here's one for you. Play Ball
By kvn
Thu, 08/07/2014 - 1:19pm
Here's one for you. Play Ball !
http://www.bostonstreetcars.com/uploads/2/0/7/4/20...
How about the old Egleston
By anon
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 3:08pm
How about the old Egleston Station?
foto
By sysblg
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 5:42pm
park street
Not sure where
By anon
Wed, 08/06/2014 - 6:46pm
But I know when. It was before they banned spitting on the tracks.
That's "expectoration" to you
By moxie
Thu, 08/07/2014 - 3:32pm
That's "expectoration" to you....
Answer
By adamg
Thu, 08/07/2014 - 1:35pm
Dudley Street station, 1921.
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