From where I stood at Memorial Drive and Ames Street, a lot of the fireworks were obscured by smoke that just hung there in the air. This doesn't usually happen.
Same from Beacon Hill -- the effect was quite dramatic, though, some of the bursts only visible by their illumination of the smoke and the scene below, like brighly-colored lightning behind the clouds. There seemed to be a slight breeze from the SW, so might have been a clearer view from the Mass Ave bridge and that area.
Amateur night on the Green Line: Thank you for using public transit, but please move yourselves, your folding chairs and your coolers into the car and away from the g*d d*mn doors! Sheesh, people!
I was also in the Beacon Hill area (at the Community Boating docks) and would say that easily 75% of the show was hidden by the smoke. I wasn't able to see ANY of the finale. I was pretty disappointed, especially after having sat for five hours waiting for it.
By anon very nearby to you on Sat, 07/05/2008 - 3:15pm.
I wasn't so far away from you (just before the Smoot Bridge), and noted the smoke. Folks around me actually were commenting about it. Still and all, wasn't it kind of neat?
Gave kind of a sweet con-trail-ey sort of aftertaste to a beautifully ephemeral thing (don't laugh at the over-wrought-ness of the description, please?)
Unlike others, I will barely even touch the smoke issue. It was a nice day spent on the esplanade, arrived at 10am, to secure a spot on the water by the barges (Boston side). Little rain, had a tent overhead. Great day overall, however have never seen the air so still during the fireworks. Maybe some giant fans on ground to move the air so we can see all the fireworks. I would say half were obscured.
For parents with small children. When you had children you gave up your right to have fun. Go to harborfest instead. There is nothing worse than greedy children jumping and dancing in front of people on the banks sitting and enjoying, not to mention during the intermission sleeping on our blankets. I hate the encroacher's who seem to arrive at 9-10 and seem to think they are entitled to waterfront real estate.
I am not all grumbles tonight. It was fun and although the smoke was a hindrance I will come back for my 9th annual day on the esplanade next year.
Justin,
You are an idiot! These celebrations are FOR kids. Look around next time... The kids were the only ones not bitching about the smoke. By the way, when you let everybody know that you won't be having children, it sort of takes you out of the closet.
Just because you sat your ass there for 10 hours doesn't entitle yourself to the same space any more. Sounds like you have a "shank a tire" southie view on this, which is pretty arrogant.
I've seen assholes who try to rope off 200sq feet with yarn, when their entire family and blankets only take up 30 square feet.
Sorry buddy, but I'm busting into your imaginary wall. Not yours!
Furthermore, the fireworks are FOR the kids. Don't like the kids, go find a roofdeck somewhere to enjoy them children free.
Next year, Justin, you can kill two birds with one stone by staying at home, with or without friends, and watch the fireworks on TV. In years past, we used to go to the esplanade, but decided this year to simply barbeque in the backyard, play frisbee, and watch in high-def. The benefit for your "horrific" dilemma:
1) No smoke issues, as they had several camera angles.
2) No kids.
Also, your statement that "When you had children you gave up your right to have fun" is actually quite ludricrous. I'd suggest that having children increases your right to have fun.
Who says i am gay, and who says I tried to reserve a football field. I was there with my fiance of 3.5 years. We sprawled out on a measly 3'x4' and by the end a drunk girl and all her friends were on our blankets and a sleepy aisian boy was sleeping on another corner of our blanket.
ONCE AGAIN H-A-R-B-O-R-F-E-S-T. Its early and for the young kids. I an not talking about all kids, I am tallking about those 5 and under. When you have a kid that old, you either need to stay home with them or hire a babysitter. or once again harborfest. What time are the fireworks over the harbor. I am not sure, but i know they are EARLIER. New Years Eve is the same way... An earlier show for the kiddos, and one for all the adults later.
Thats enough for me. I will check back to pound on the dumb-ass replies i get again.
Okay, your logic defies itself. You claim that the problem is children "5 and under." Are you kidding me? Those aren't the ones getting drunk and passing out on your blanket (I assume...and hope).
Also, why did you and your fiancee leave the blanket in the first place? Where did you go, and how long were you gone, only to come back and find a "drunk girl and all her friends...and a sleepy aisian [sic] boy?" And why is the fact that he was Asian important? I just don't get it.
And finally, are you planning on having kids with your fiancee, if you ever get married (3.5 years is a long time to be engaged)? If so, enjoy Harborfest next year.
As for the gay remark given to you, I'll side with you that it was not called for, and inappropriate. I am straight, but detest calling someone gay for having an opposing view on a subject.
...Eeka, I was responding to another post, in which someone assumed he was gay without any evidence. Not to send this thread off on a tangent (okay, I will), the fact that people use the word 'gay' in a hateful, aggressive manner bothers me. That post came before his claim of having a fiance.
I could care less whether he has a fiance or a fiancee, and just mistyped.
My ire stemming from his comments come simply from his anti-kid sentiments. But a secondary ire, of which I posted before, comes from someone responding by calling him gay in a manner that suggests a lower-class status.
"When you have a kid that old, you either need to stay home with them or hire a babysitter"
Parents don't NEED to do what you suggest!
Plenty of parents give the kids a long nap in the afternoon so they can stay up late at night on the 4th of July to watch fireworks.
People without kids who tell parents what to do NEED to stay home and not sound so entitled.
I hope you and your fiance (that's the masculine form of the word) never bring your children out anywhere.
Part of the joy is Sharing The Space, for crying out loud.
I did the esplanade thang several time in the past, and, despite the crowds, Loved It. Shared my day-long saved space and met so many fun folks who passed by - tourists, etc. The best were some random Australians who sat on my blanket and who gave me a big hug and kiss for
1.) having not ratted them out to parks police for being there after the esplanade was closed down
2.) my lazy daisy cake that I cut up and shared for like 60 people.
This happened 15 years ago, and we still write regularly.
I was at the show last night with my wife, and we saw this Asian kid peeing all over a blanket that was just about 3'x4'. You might want to think about taking that to the dry cleaner. Just a thought.
Oh and one more thing... I GUARANTEE you didn't get laid last night.
It is a simple word - what part of the word PUBLIC do you not understand.
PUBLIC includes you, drunk idiots, and ... CHILDREN.
Don't like kids? Go to adult only events - just don't expect fireworks, a Pops concert, and the 4th of July to be one. Kids are not dogs, they are humans, citizens, people and part of the term PUBLIC.
"When you had children you gave up your right to have fun."
what an outrageous statement!
I really hope that when you have kids, you follow your own advice and that you retire to your living room couch for the next 18 years.
Went down to the fireworks like I almost always do since moving to Boston 8 years ago. This year was a little different than most even though I went to my same spot. Some of that was disappointing, but on the whole it was not disappointing. Here are my random thoughts:
The weather turned almost perfect around 3 PM yesterday. It was like someone knew when all the cookouts started and made it beautiful to sit around outside and grill and drink beer.
If you don't try to park right next to where you want to watch the display, then you'll almost always find a spot (legally) and damned if the ones I thought would be open were still open at 9 PM even though we were running a little bit late. (No, I won't post where it is, because I don't want to compete for it. But let's just say it's only about 2-3 blocks off of Mem Drive...so sweet! :)
Disappointment #1: I like to go a bit up-wind from the Mass Ave bridge hoopla on the Cambridge side. There's a piece of the river bank that juts out between the BU and Mass Ave bridges and so you have a straight shot to look up river at the fireworks and any wind at all will push the smoke away from you to see the fireworks very clearly. The disappointment is with DCR for letting the bank of the river grow tons of plants along the concrete barrier. I used to take a spot between the dirt walking path and the concrete to sit and watch because it meant nobody could get between me and the river. Now there's a ton of brush there blocking the ground off. Oh well.
I bring a boombox and tune it to 1030 AM which broadcasts the Pops concert. It still syncs nicely with the fireworks and you're too far up river at that point to hear any of the rebroadcast down near Mass Ave. (Aside, if you were in earshot, mine was the only radio playing out loud like that in the area and you're more than welcome. I usually get a lot of thanks from the crowd nearby every year.) So, that went well yet again this year.
Disappointment #2: When the fireworks began, people simply stood on the path next to the aforementioned flora instead of finding a seat in the grass up the hill right next to them. This meant that people lower on the hill then had to stand...and the people behind them...and suddenly nobody could see without standing. Part of the reason for going back a ways is to avoid needing to stand on the bridge to fit everyone in and look over every one. I was in spirit with the people yelling "down in front" but when we're talking 200-300 people in front of you...you're just not going to move that ocean, sorry. It's a shame...it was really nice and then suddenly we're all standing just to see because of people who weren't being considerate of anyone behind them. Very disappointing from my fellow man.
The fireworks were really nice this year. The songs were sometimes a bit dated (what? no love songs to play since "Titanic"??) but the display was synced well and pretty to watch.
Final Disappointment: Yes, you're outside, but you're amid 400-500 other people. Did you really need to light up so badly? Couldn't you have walked up to the roadway where the crowd is less dense or non-existent? Ah well, it was a fleeting problem anyways. Life goes on.
Final thought: A big thanks to all of the out-of-towners who had no clue that both lanes of Waverly St turn left towards the BU Bridge rotary. Passing all of you sitting in the left lane was awesome. It lightened my traffic angst immeasurably.
I think next year I'm going to go clear some of the brush on the 2nd or 3rd and setup a bunch of police tape and maybe some sort of metal piping in and around the clearing until I can arrive to take it down. Then it can go back to being nearly perfect again.
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short display this year...
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Boston fireworks obscured by smoke
From where I stood at Memorial Drive and Ames Street, a lot of the fireworks were obscured by smoke that just hung there in the air. This doesn't usually happen.
Smoke
Same from Beacon Hill -- the effect was quite dramatic, though, some of the bursts only visible by their illumination of the smoke and the scene below, like brighly-colored lightning behind the clouds. There seemed to be a slight breeze from the SW, so might have been a clearer view from the Mass Ave bridge and that area.
Amateur night on the Green Line: Thank you for using public transit, but please move yourselves, your folding chairs and your coolers into the car and away from the g*d d*mn doors! Sheesh, people!
smoke
I was also in the Beacon Hill area (at the Community Boating docks) and would say that easily 75% of the show was hidden by the smoke. I wasn't able to see ANY of the finale. I was pretty disappointed, especially after having sat for five hours waiting for it.
Neato Phenomenon
I wasn't so far away from you (just before the Smoot Bridge), and noted the smoke. Folks around me actually were commenting about it. Still and all, wasn't it kind of neat?
Gave kind of a sweet con-trail-ey sort of aftertaste to a beautifully ephemeral thing (don't laugh at the over-wrought-ness of the description, please?)
A bit short and well the smoke
Unlike others, I will barely even touch the smoke issue. It was a nice day spent on the esplanade, arrived at 10am, to secure a spot on the water by the barges (Boston side). Little rain, had a tent overhead. Great day overall, however have never seen the air so still during the fireworks. Maybe some giant fans on ground to move the air so we can see all the fireworks. I would say half were obscured.
For parents with small children. When you had children you gave up your right to have fun. Go to harborfest instead. There is nothing worse than greedy children jumping and dancing in front of people on the banks sitting and enjoying, not to mention during the intermission sleeping on our blankets. I hate the encroacher's who seem to arrive at 9-10 and seem to think they are entitled to waterfront real estate.
I am not all grumbles tonight. It was fun and although the smoke was a hindrance I will come back for my 9th annual day on the esplanade next year.
just because you're gay
Justin,
You are an idiot! These celebrations are FOR kids. Look around next time... The kids were the only ones not bitching about the smoke. By the way, when you let everybody know that you won't be having children, it sort of takes you out of the closet.
What a stupid reply
I'm sorry, but who kicked you this morning?
Just because you sat your
Just because you sat your ass there for 10 hours doesn't entitle yourself to the same space any more. Sounds like you have a "shank a tire" southie view on this, which is pretty arrogant.
I've seen assholes who try to rope off 200sq feet with yarn, when their entire family and blankets only take up 30 square feet.
Sorry buddy, but I'm busting into your imaginary wall. Not yours!
Furthermore, the fireworks are FOR the kids. Don't like the kids, go find a roofdeck somewhere to enjoy them children free.
Problem Solved
Next year, Justin, you can kill two birds with one stone by staying at home, with or without friends, and watch the fireworks on TV. In years past, we used to go to the esplanade, but decided this year to simply barbeque in the backyard, play frisbee, and watch in high-def. The benefit for your "horrific" dilemma:
1) No smoke issues, as they had several camera angles.
2) No kids.
Also, your statement that "When you had children you gave up your right to have fun" is actually quite ludricrous. I'd suggest that having children increases your right to have fun.
Once again
Who says i am gay, and who says I tried to reserve a football field. I was there with my fiance of 3.5 years. We sprawled out on a measly 3'x4' and by the end a drunk girl and all her friends were on our blankets and a sleepy aisian boy was sleeping on another corner of our blanket.
ONCE AGAIN H-A-R-B-O-R-F-E-S-T. Its early and for the young kids. I an not talking about all kids, I am tallking about those 5 and under. When you have a kid that old, you either need to stay home with them or hire a babysitter. or once again harborfest. What time are the fireworks over the harbor. I am not sure, but i know they are EARLIER. New Years Eve is the same way... An earlier show for the kiddos, and one for all the adults later.
Thats enough for me. I will check back to pound on the dumb-ass replies i get again.
Dumb-ass Reply #1
Okay, your logic defies itself. You claim that the problem is children "5 and under." Are you kidding me? Those aren't the ones getting drunk and passing out on your blanket (I assume...and hope).
Also, why did you and your fiancee leave the blanket in the first place? Where did you go, and how long were you gone, only to come back and find a "drunk girl and all her friends...and a sleepy aisian [sic] boy?" And why is the fact that he was Asian important? I just don't get it.
And finally, are you planning on having kids with your fiancee, if you ever get married (3.5 years is a long time to be engaged)? If so, enjoy Harborfest next year.
As for the gay remark given to you, I'll side with you that it was not called for, and inappropriate. I am straight, but detest calling someone gay for having an opposing view on a subject.
Pound away on this dumb-ass comment...
Dumbass reply #2?
I assume Justin is a male name, and since you have a fiancé, wouldn't it be basically accurate for someone to refer to you as gay? I mean, I understand if identify differently, like as same-gender-loving, or bisexual, or just a dude who currently has a male partner. But still, even if not your preferred terminology, I don't think you need to get your knickers in a twist over someone using the term "gay" in reference to a guy who's engaged to a guy.
Knickers in a twist because...
...Eeka, I was responding to another post, in which someone assumed he was gay without any evidence. Not to send this thread off on a tangent (okay, I will), the fact that people use the word 'gay' in a hateful, aggressive manner bothers me. That post came before his claim of having a fiance.
I could care less whether he has a fiance or a fiancee, and just mistyped.
My ire stemming from his comments come simply from his anti-kid sentiments. But a secondary ire, of which I posted before, comes from someone responding by calling him gay in a manner that suggests a lower-class status.
hope this untwists them knickers a bit...
The jab at his grammar was sarcastic -- I realize how it was intended, as well as the timing of the comments.
I totally agree that using any sort of demographic term as a supposed insult is really gross.
The anti-kid and anti-just-about-everyone-on-the-esplanade comments were annoying, yes. Hence my deciding to rip on Justin a little.
NEED to??
"When you have a kid that old, you either need to stay home with them or hire a babysitter"
Parents don't NEED to do what you suggest!
Plenty of parents give the kids a long nap in the afternoon so they can stay up late at night on the 4th of July to watch fireworks.
People without kids who tell parents what to do NEED to stay home and not sound so entitled.
I hope you and your fiance (that's the masculine form of the word) never bring your children out anywhere.
Part of the joy is Sharing
Part of the joy is Sharing The Space, for crying out loud.
I did the esplanade thang several time in the past, and, despite the crowds, Loved It. Shared my day-long saved space and met so many fun folks who passed by - tourists, etc. The best were some random Australians who sat on my blanket and who gave me a big hug and kiss for
1.) having not ratted them out to parks police for being there after the esplanade was closed down
2.) my lazy daisy cake that I cut up and shared for like 60 people.
This happened 15 years ago, and we still write regularly.
You get what you give, I guess.
Justin
I was at the show last night with my wife, and we saw this Asian kid peeing all over a blanket that was just about 3'x4'. You might want to think about taking that to the dry cleaner. Just a thought.
Oh and one more thing... I GUARANTEE you didn't get laid last night.
Way to be buddy.....
P-U-B-L-I-C
It is a simple word - what part of the word PUBLIC do you not understand.
PUBLIC includes you, drunk idiots, and ... CHILDREN.
Don't like kids? Go to adult only events - just don't expect fireworks, a Pops concert, and the 4th of July to be one. Kids are not dogs, they are humans, citizens, people and part of the term PUBLIC.
I do not understand your reference to Harborfest
What does Harborfest have to do with fireworks? They are two different and unrelated events.
"When you had children you
"When you had children you gave up your right to have fun."
what an outrageous statement!
I really hope that when you have kids, you follow your own advice and that you retire to your living room couch for the next 18 years.
asshole.
Couple of thoughts
Went down to the fireworks like I almost always do since moving to Boston 8 years ago. This year was a little different than most even though I went to my same spot. Some of that was disappointing, but on the whole it was not disappointing. Here are my random thoughts:
I think next year I'm going to go clear some of the brush on the 2nd or 3rd and setup a bunch of police tape and maybe some sort of metal piping in and around the clearing until I can arrive to take it down. Then it can go back to being nearly perfect again.
Oh, THAT parking lot!
Back behind the... you know. (:O)
Nope :)
Not a parking lot. :) Legal, street parking.