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You don't want to get a lady with a sharp knife angry
By adamg on Tue, 02/17/2015 - 5:03pm
A roving UHub photographer spotted this box atop a snow mound next to a parking space in Grove Hall this morning.
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Web cam time
I'm surprised that nobody has set up would-be usurpers of public property by putting out a bait car and putting the tires under web surveillance. Or traditional surveillance.
Yup.
Seriously. A GoPro is $130. I can't imagine any of these sociopaths has the mental capacity to consider that what they're doing is flagrantly, blatantly illegal, and that surveillance is cheaper than new tires these days. And while the cops don't care, I have to think that a DA presented with a written threat and closeup video wouldn't have much choice but to prosecute.
I would love it...
I would watch the video non-stop. To see the look on a normally law-abiding citizen's face as they're slapped in hancuffs would be priceless. They'd most likely have a shocked look that says, "But...but...I'm not a criminal!" Too much fun.
Beware those BJs shoppers
They will cut you up.
Psychos
At least space saver users are outing themselves as the psychopaths that they are.
Last winter a globe writer interviewed his father on space savers: http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/02/17/what-proper-ettiquette-when-...
The best part is at the end where the guy rants about how younger people "think it's all about me", as in "You can't save this parking space, it's public property". Then he goes on to threaten people on camera. We've had one guy in Fall River shoot up a car over this. How long before someone gets murdered by these thugs?
How very thin
How very thin is the veneer of civilization.
The dad isright. For younger
The dad is right. For younger people it is all about themselves, they just use an excuse of moral authority because they're too afraid to say it's about them. We've had tough guy millennials talking about how they went through neighbourhoods not their tossing space savers under the guise of it being better for the community, when the reality is they just want to be noticed and bandwagon on a popular topic.
The "Me" Generation
That was a term for the people now in their 50s and 60s.
What was that about younger people, again?
I'm no millenial
I have been known to toss space savers. I don't brag about it; it has nothing to do with wanting to be noticed or joining any bandwagon; I do it on the grounds that you should avoid doing things that, if everyone did them, would make the world worse, and that you should go out of your way to do things that, if everyone did them, would make the world better. If it became known that there was no point leaving a space saver because the next pedestrian would simply toss it, then the whole practice would end pretty quickly.
Plenty of parkers with
Plenty of parkers with sharper guns at Grove Hall.
Again,
if everybody shoveled out their own space, this wouldn't be a problem. And yes, space savers do exist in other major cities that get a lot of snow, in neighborhoods where they are necessary. Not unique to the Boston area.
No, untrue. When people dont
No, untrue. When people dont use space savers, each space serves more than one person, as when one car is not there others use it. When people decide they own the space and mark it with space savers, a limited supply has even more demand, since every car that uses a space any time or day needs its own space, whether it is there or not.
off topic but the anon name...
with the "(not verified)" is priceless...
Everyone Did Shovel Their Own Space
Nobody is just ramming their car out from the snowbank. Pretty much any car on the road out there has been shoveled out of somewhere. It leaves a shoveled space in the morning, someone else parks there, so the first car parks in another shoveled space instead, and the person who shoveled their car out of there parks in a different one and so on. That is a fair game of musical chairs. You may end up the loser standing up when the music stops but that is the price of using your car.
Not necessarily
Visitors? People who parked in covered lots during the parking ban? It's not a 1:1 deal.
Visitors shoveled out
Visitors shoveled out somewhere else. People who had a covered space either paid for it, or their being off the road during the storm allowed these would-be vandals to get a street spot worth saving in the first place. I moved my car off-street (still had to shovel it out) as a courtesy to my neighbors. My reward? Not being able to park anywhere on my street.
Get..
The Heat st crew over there for short chips.
That threatening note
...is sitting in 4 inches of snow. And has an address label on it, identifying the perpetrator under a scribble of black marker. Looks like this idiot didn't shovel, either.
Its a Wellsley Farms muffin box from BJs Wholesale Club
Whats scribbled out is the nutrition information.
Food
Are you ever not thinking about food, Jim?
Insane
I would park there, then hide and wait for the maniac to appear, knife in hand, and watch and video her slicing up the tires. Then have the psychopath arrested.
call the police
That's a credible criminal threat.
Either that, or get rid of the laws pertaining to public property, vandalism, and armed assault and battery, so that the people who follow the actual laws aren't at a disadvantage, compared to the people who observe only drunken frontier justice.
The damage done this winter
The damage done this winter to neighborly harmony is going to last beyond this snow. I would hold a grudge and deliver on it if this scum claimed the spot in front of my house. It's a threat whether tires are actually slashed or not.
It's all about cars.
Or virtually all. There's been a lot of neighborliness and goodwill among pedestrians from what I've seen but the frustration level among drivers and space-diggers, -defenders, -stealers has reached new levels. I can't blame them but boy, it makes another good argument for fewer cars and better public transportation so that people don't need their cars so much.
On the other hand, one of my
On the other hand, one of my neighbors snowblows my sidewalk and my neighbors' parking space regularly, so there are lovely people out there warming my heart, too.
These are getting old.
People are probably trying to one-up each other to get their 10 seconds of Uhub fame. Thumbs down, peoples!
Question
If you can be fined for not shoveling your sidewalk (public space) then why should you not be able to lay claim to a parking space you shoveled (public space).
Discuss.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Counterpoint
If you can be fined for not clearing the public sidewalk abutting your property, you should be fined for not clearing the public parking space to the curb as well, regardless if you are parked there or not.
That would solve some problems as well.
Counter To The Counter
And thanks for playing! Discussing this without being abusive is fun!
The line of personal responsibility - and therefore, I say, custodianship - is drawn outside of one's privately-owned property by the city.
The example of punishing those who fail to clear property they do not own says that ALL public land may be seen as the responsibility - and thus owned, for legal purposes and levying of fines - by the person living closest to it.
By your example, one might extend responsibility to a midway point in the street between your house and that of your across-the-street neighbor, which would mean you should be responsible for plowing the section of your street included in that.
Therefore, I feel it is not unreasonable to assume temporary right of occupancy of a public space which you, as abutter, have cleared and improved.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Yup!
And that temporary right ends when you drive away.
Because...
...the two things are in no way analogous. Seriously, you had to ask? Do you ever see anyone shoveling their sidewalk and then claiming that they're the only person who gets to walk on it? This is ridiculous.
Do you ever see anyone
Ssshhh! Don't give them any ideas!
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Shovel off the sidewalk, set up a toolbooth.
You are also fined for not cleaning I-93.
Your're responsible for cleaning the sidewalk in front of your property (by shoveling it or by hiring someone else to shovel it.)
You're also responsible for plowing I-93 (by paying taxes which the state then uses to hire plow drivers).
In either case, if you don't fulfill your responsibility, you can be fined.
In neither case, does fulfilling your responsibility entitle you to exclusive use of any particular piece of public property.
Because...
...nobody is laying claim to a sidewalk.
Hey, maybe the answer is for everyone to be responsible for shoveling the street in front of their house?
And she calls herself a "lady"?
And she calls herself a "lady"?
Probably...
...can't spell "sociopath".
Space savers
Too funny. Stop spending so much time stressing about South Boston traditions, and spewing such venom about space savers. If you can't handle living in Southie, dealing with parking, etc. maybe you're in over your head ... Just move our .... Don't force yourself ... Some people are just not cut out for it. Be happy you are living in 02127 / or move along.
Grove Hall is in Southie?
Grove Hall is in Southie?
Other great traditions...
... include beating the crap out of dark skinned people who happen to wander into the wrong neighborhood.
Just because it's a tradition doesn't mean it's not sociopathic.
Agreed!!!! People want to
Agreed!!!! People want to move to Southie (or Dot.) & attempt to change something that has been in place for YEARS!!! It never seemed to be much of a problem back in the day. Either fall in line....or MOVE to the burbs where you can have your own driveway & STOP Bitching about it!!!
Back in the day...
Grazing your cattle on Boston Common was fine back in the day, too, because Boston had a population of 10,000 people, and there was plenty of Boston Common to go around. Once the city became big, and the number of people wanting to use a finite, shared resource exceeded the capacity of that resource, the practice had to end.
nice to see
how this winter's adversity brings out the very best in people.
Anyone who writes a threat on
Anyone who writes a threat on a muffin box must mean serious business!! Crazy broad.
Fill it with dog muffins
Set it up again, somewhat unsecured.
Ok...
...that's brilliant.
Boston Strong
We're all in this together...we can pull together and make it through...oh, forget it.
Change the motto
Boston Strong"I got mine, Jack, eff you."