UPDATE: Looks like WCVB has removed the video. Transcript in the comments.
WCVB has video of John Fish saying that
What bothers me a lot is the decline of pride, of patriotism, the love for our country.
Meanwhile, Mayor Walsh denies a report in the Herald that he's calling for Fish to step down from an active role in Olympic organizing effords:
I said on Wednesday that John Fish should be an ambassador for Boston 2024, which is a position he holds now as Chairman. I want to be very clear, I did not call for John to step down from his role. John was one of the first people to carry a vision for the Olympic bid in Boston and I strongly believe that he should continue to be involved as we move forward.
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And he wonders why we aren't rallying behind him?
By Kaz
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 1:52pm
Idiot.
patriotism, etc
By Anonymous
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:22pm
Mr Fish has done nice things for the community with his wealth so there's that.
The deal that Mr Fish (and the USOC and IOC as his partners) is proposing is a crappy deal for citizens.
We get billion of dollars of construction of things you need for an Olympics but you don't need when the Olympics is over. The deal requires taxpayers to provide the financial guarantees for deficits, which could amount to billions of dollars. While the USOC gets a $600M payment off the top, the citizens of Boston get artifacts (such as pool at Franklin park.) We don;t even get rent for Franklin Park or the Boston Common. Planning and building for the Olympics isn't anything but a huge detour for Boston's priorities-- the welfare of the citizens who live and work here-- for the next 10+ years. Then they are the people who lose big, their property is taken and they have to relocate. The Olympics are BIG business-- it's a three week made for tv reality show-- and we're not in on the deal.
We should be putting our resources into our people and infrastructure that grows our economy.
Mr Fish's view of my patriotism is something I really don't care about. He's angry and he's a loose canon. I understand that. Remember when all the people who were unpatriotic because they didn't support invading Iraq? I do.
Our Mayor's endorsement for bringing the Olympics to Boston has complicated his dual role as protector of pubic asset and cheerleader for private development that he feels is in the best interest of the city.
He could have done both jobs better if he maintained an arms length posture with Boston 2024. As it is, he risks losing public trust. He is seeking to insure it by playing watchdog over Boston2024 budgeting planning but in reality he cannot and the record is that cost overruns are huge and predictable. At the same time, only once has the USOC/IOC not required taxpayers to guarantee cost overruns and the was LA 1984.
I contend that neither MA nor Boston will tolerate taking responsibility for cost overruns. If the IOC accepts that, there are other major issues about the use of public space and private real estate when the Olympics comes to town.
404 - WCVB Seems To Have Pulled The Video Now!
By Elmer
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:29pm
[sup] ... though his comments can still be heard in this other video. [/sup]
Nothing on the internet is lost forever
By Kaz
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:41pm
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/kwidget/wid/_557781/uico...\
Also, if you know a bit about kaltura, you can save the mp4 version of this video to your computer.
And here's a transcript
By adamg
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:44pm
From the Google cache of the report (which could disappear at any moment):
Seriously.
By Wiffleball
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 7:08pm
[img]http://i.imgur.com/dYjnla3.jpg[/img]
I think what he meant to say is
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 1:57pm
"Why do liberals hate America".
Ah yes
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:10pm
Because "thinking critically" = "hating America". Right.
Because "loving America" = bending over and doing what you are told while singing patriotic songs about God and Heroes of the Otherland, just like Paul Revere and those farmers in Lexington did. Right.
If you haven't noticed, it isn't just the liberals thinking critically about this "monorail" and saying "no", anyway. It is a fairly broad swath of the Hub Universe.
Sigh
By lbb
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:47pm
Take a deep deep breath and a swig of Old Overcoat, Swirly. I strongly suspect that the person you just jumped all over, far from attacking "liberals", is making fun of the tendency of flag-wavers to attack "liberals".
Hard to tell
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:01pm
If it were someone we knew by name/pseud, sarcasm would be easier to infer.
I mean, Anon is a regular commenter, but also a bit of a troll.
I wasn't talking about Boston24
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:51pm
I was talking in general!
See?
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 5:03pm
See?
Nope, wait, I changed my mind
By anon
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 12:20am
I meant in specific. Yeah, specifically liberals hate America!
Are you sure I didn't mean "walking" about Boston2024?
By anon
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 12:21am
I sure do love walking!
Whooooooooooosssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh
By Belmont
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:57pm
.
There's nothing American about knee jerk reactions.
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 8:26pm
You decided the Olympics in Boston were a horrid idea before you had any idea what Boston 2024's plan was for the games. That's your right. But don't call it critical thinking. Critical thinking would have been to evaluate the plan (which is still being developed and vetted) before forming such a strident opinion. Luckily, you're not a stakeholder and your outsider opinion doesn't move the needle one fucking centimeter.
Are you on the community outreach team?
By Michael
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 9:58pm
Most of us started out skeptical - we know we have needs that aren't going to be met with all the money flowing to the games, and we heard the horror stories about the congestion and the security BS in previous Olympics, but the more we hear from the clownshoes operation in charge of this mess (and seriously, your last sentence makes me believe you might actually be John Fish himself) the more it seems less like a dubious idea and more like what a bunch of sociopaths would do if they for some reason decided to level a city to the ground.
Any idea?
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 10:19pm
You know, it would be nice to have ANY IDEA what the plans are. The fact that the promotional group wouldn't LET us have ANY IDEA of their plans was red flag #1.
That the plan is still being evaluated and vetted is red flag #2.
Considering how the IOC asks to take over a city AND that city is REQUIRED to pay for overruns that we have no control over ... yes, not having any idea would be a REAL PROBLEM, no?
Shit, I would love to see this happen - I already have offers to rent my house!!! But not at the price of infrastructure that people who live here actually use going down the toilet while white elephants are built with the money instead. Not at the price of hundred year old trees being axed for a frigging beach volleyball stadium that should be, you know,on a beach? Not if people are pushed out of their homes. Not if established businesses are pushed out for white elephants and what becomes more luxury condos.
Talk to someone in Atlanta about this and check back, eh?
Re: I think what he meant to say is why do liberals hate America
By O-FISH-L
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 6:39pm
I doubt it since most of the high priced operatives working with Fish on Boston 2024 are far-left, liberal former Patrick administration flunkies, including Patrick himself.
As Otter said:
By Ishmael Jones
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 1:57pm
Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
By moxie
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:32pm
And since we're on Animal House:
And Boston2024 and Fish are just the ones to do it!
Germans bombed Pearl Harbor??
By CC resident
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 2:07am
Germans bombed Pearl Harbor????????????? Wow.
There are certain movies that inform the UHub zeitgeist
By adamg
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 9:25am
And one of them is Animal House:
Germans?!?
By roadman
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 10:15am
And another as Mr. Fish slaps
By moxie
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:42pm
And another as Mr. Fish slaps us all on the back:
Well I'll show him!
By Kaz
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:01pm
"I'll show him! Where do I sign up to support the Olympics coming to Boston so I can prove I'm patriotic!", said nobody ever.
Where is a Plan for after the Olympics leaves our metro area?
By theszak
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:09pm
a) Where is a Complete Plan for after the Olympics leaves our metropolitan area?...
b) What happened around the Lake Placid area after the Olympics?... ask Jim Rogers Sr. of Lake Placid !
By Pat Bradley
Lake Placid Looks At Changes In The Olympic Games
http://wamc.org/post/lake-placid-looks-changes-oly...
Wrong Mitt Romney Speech
By John Costello
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:05pm
Did Willard Mitt just shape shift? Johnny, you are supposed to say how great everything is and how you will save the Olympics, just like Mitt, not be the Mitt which chastised us worker bees for being slackers.
Good luck going forward now Mr. Oyster Harbors.
Exactly
By FenRes
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:29pm
And I'm thinking the same thing I thought when I first saw that "other" Romney speech:
This thing is over.
I'll support your Olympics, John
By JimGaffigan
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:06pm
When I don't have to pay for it.
Nothing's more American
By Michael
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:08pm
...than handing over our civic agenda and checkbook to the bunch of European viscounts and minor barons that make up the IOC
+++++++
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:38pm
Plus eleventy!
Except for dressage!!
By Sally
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:51pm
Ain't nothin' more American than some fine dress-age!!
does ANYONE believe these guys?
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:08pm
It's a bad sign that we have to worry that the greedy backroom dealers will actually get their way with Boston's finances and future.
Screwing the city out of billions of dollars always makes my heart swell up with pride.
They were okay with Sochi
By Kaz
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:09pm
Maybe the USOC should switch the bid to Indianapolis before it's too late. Or Little Rock.
or Los Angeles?
By Ron Newman
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:47pm
Really, why not LA? They've done it twice before, they *like* doing it, and because of LA's sheer size it's going to have a lot less impact on most people's day-to-day lives there.
Fish doesn't seem to respect
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:10pm
Fish doesn't seem to respect our long standing tradition of opposing anything. Next he's going to ban space savers.
No spaces left
By Belmont
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:01pm
In the New Order of J. Fish, there won't be any spaces left to put a space saver in.
We're world class!
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:23pm
Look, we made the Guardian!
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/02/bosto...
side note
By Malcolm Tucker
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:20pm
"IOC member Dick Pound"
oh my god oh my god oh my godddddddddd
is April Fool's a day late in England? is there REALLY a grownup named Dick Pound - one NOT working in porn?
oh my GOD.
FYI
By lbb
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:50pm
Dick Pound is the main, um...dick...behind WADA. He's not exactly a regular on WEEI, but if you follow the Olympics or international sport at all, you've heard of him. He's been around for a long time.
representing canada
By MadMax
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 8:58pm
Yes, he has many hats. Including chancellor of mcgill university. For a time he was floated for IOC leadership, but the europeans didn't trust him.
So Mayor Marty is defending Fish's comments??
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:23pm
It sure looks like it. He certainly isn't criticizing Fish.
Fuck anyone who says I'm not a patriot because I don't want the Olympics in Boston. Fuck anyone who supports anyone who says it.
Message to Marty. I voted for you but I'm looking for another candidate for Mayor in the next election.
Fish owns Walsh. The unions
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:40pm
Fish owns Walsh. The unions own Walsh. The developers own Walsh.
If you aren't part of one of those groups Walsh doesn't care about you.
Pride you say? Yes, I take
By Kinopio
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:28pm
Pride you say? Yes, I take pride in not being dumb enough to want to hand over public money and land to a group of 1% swindlers.
"Patriotism is the last
By mfc
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:40pm
"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels"
we've been doing patriotism around here since at least 1775
By Ron Newman
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 2:49pm
no need to lecture us about that subject.
I like to think I'm the kind of American patriot who
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:10pm
stands for public process transparency, fiscal accountability, and putting the needs of the entire citizenry ahead of some self-appointed group of leaders whose sense of civic duty just happens to coincide with lining their own pockets. (I know Fish has recused himself from direct involvement, but if his competition is busy constructing Olympic facilities, he still rakes it in by soaking up everyday business.)
My memory is also sound enough to recall the whole sorry Big Dig fiasco, brought to you courtesy of some of these same greedy, shameless charlatans, and all the attendant ills that the Commonwealth has been suffering for a couple of decades as a result. Stiff me once for tens of billions of dollars, shame on you...
Anyone who wants to question my patriotism in that context is invited to go fuck themselves.
I wonder if Mr. Fish is reeling from the reaction to Shirley
By Nancy
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:24pm
I'm sure that they keep an eye on the comments on the Globe and in other places (like, oh I don't know, UHub?).
Yesterday afternoon I couldn't help but wonder if Shirley Leung might have unintentionally set in motion the process by which the USOC yanks our right to bid and gives it to a place that wants it.
No pretty link, sorry:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/03/31/bos...
I suspect it was the WSJ
By Klaus
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:48pm
I suspect it was the WSJ article about the rumors of the USOC shopping the Olympic bid back to LA and Chicago that precipitated the Leung article as well as Fish's little outburst.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/lack-of-public-support...
Whoops, meant to say LA, SF, and DC
By Klaus
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 1:12am
I meant to say LA, SF, and DC not LA and Chicago. My mistake. Clearly didn't follow the 2024 bid very closely.
I suspect it was the WSJ
By Klaus
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 8:59am
I suspect it was the WSJ article about the rumors of the USOC shopping the Olympic bid back to LA and Chicago that precipitated the Leung article as well as Fish's little outburst.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/lack-of-public-support...
us vs. them
By Malcolm Tucker
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:27pm
I noticed that Leung's column yesterday likened this to a "civil war" - and now Fish is making us all out to be a buncha no-good Johnny Rebs, apparently.
This isn't a civil war. The thing where a bunch of powerful jerks try to bully their way into hostile (to the invaders) territory, taking from it whatever they want, leaving behind a mess of infrastructure that they have no interest in maintaining - that's more like colonialism.
Parasitization
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:35pm
More like a parasite, invading a host, commandeering its resources for its own growth program, and then leaving the host impoverished while moving on to the next one.
MBTA leaders looking for
By kvn
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:52pm
MBTA leaders looking for money to expand despite recent troubles.....
Dead horses
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:59pm
Dead horses don't show jump.
You would prescribe diet pills to an anorexic.
There's no such thing as a
By kvn
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:54pm
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Milton Friedman
How come
By roadman
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:58pm
from the F Troop episode Iron Horse Go Home
swrrly
By anon
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 11:54am
sometimes I like your comments
tomato/tomahto
By Malcolm Tucker
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:02pm
Definitely. Colonialism is parasitism writ large.
It was pretty Summery back in
By jswift
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:31pm
It was pretty Summery back in Sochi for those Winter games they could probably re-purpose half that stuff for Summer Games and I'm sure Putin would love another diversion.
Let's test their patriotism
By tachometer
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 3:36pm
I am proposing that the backers of Boston 2024 sign a contract where they will take all profits from construction of any project related to the effort and put them into escrow. When the final tally is done if the Olympics loses money they must turn that money over to the city. If that is not enough to cover it then their companies (e.g. Suffolk Construction) must turn all profits over to the city/commonwealth until that debt is repaid with interest and a 25% penalty on top of that.
If they refuse to sign we can question their patriotism (and lay bare their real motivation).
When there's $ to be made
By Belmont
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:07pm
Of course, for Mr. Fish and Mr. Henry, thar's money to made in these hills.
Civic pride is all very nice but when it turns over a lot of money and that money goes into certain pockets - well, isn't that the best of both worlds?
Even better
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 9:09pm
Fish wants the Olympics. Leung wants the Olympics. I have the answer - put the Olympic Stadium and village in Milton.
Too Late for Milton
By Moaki
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 9:16am
Heard his house was for sale....$7,000,000...............Coldwell Banker...
Yes indeed.
By Wally
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 4:52pm
7 million is correct. And guess who has the listing?
Mary Joyce, AKA, wife of Senator Brian Joyce.
I said this before
By Chutney
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:07pm
And I'll say it again.....Something's Fishy.
Keep it up, John. You're doing wonders for NOBOSTON2024
By TommyJeff
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:44pm
Things are looking grim for
By anon
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 4:49pm
Things are looking grim for the Boston2024 cronies who stand to make a lot of money when they're trying to smear anyone as not supporting their get-rich scheme as unpatriotic. Let's just call this what it is, a shameless transfer of wealth from public coffers to a small group of well connected individuals who have found a way to legally embezzle public funds.
Because if anyone thinks when everything is said and done tax money isn't going to pay for these games they're delusional.
So tragic...
By Angry Dan
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 6:56pm
It is amusing to watch a millionaire lash out against the horrifying possibility that he actually might not get what he wants.
He has cultivated all the right relationships. All the right people are indebted to him. He should get what he wants by fiat! But the commoners are talking about how they don't want to be stuck paying his expense check while the fat cats are sorting out all the real estate that will be put into play.
So now he has to get people who owe him nothing to vote against their own interests. Fortunately, this attempt was subtle as a train wreck and unintentionally hilarious. The way the original video disappeared so quickly is also entertaining. Too bad about the Streisand Effect.
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