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Loudmouth bully boys try to squelch dissent at Olympics meeting
By adamg on Wed, 05/20/2015 - 3:33pm
The city held another one of its neighborhood meetings, and once again some men showed they don't understand the idea of civil discourse.
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I'd say it's unbelievable, but...
This is deplorable. And entirely believable, alas.
Have any other "news" outlets reported on this? Are there cameras at these things? A big, ugly scandal might be embarrassing for the city overall, but it would probably be the final nail in the Boston 2024 coffin.
Oddly
The Globe article (http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/05/19/dorchester-residents-debate-boston-olympic-bid/eBwrnO62JK4oZOKd8CskwO/story.html) didn't mention the hired goons at all.
cripes
The Globe is positioning itself to be about as relevant as its much-hated Direct cousin.
Revised comment: Report from the Dorchester Reporter
dotnews:
“The fix is in for this
Raise your hand if you're surprised.
not odd at all
The Globe is in the tank for the Olympics...read Shirley Leung...and it is not going to publish an article that could be damaging to an Olympic bid.
As a Globe reader, I think this this is irrefuatable:
To review, John Henry is a RWG
(Rich White Guy)
John Henry owns the Globe. Boston2024 is, by it's very definition, the ultimate RWG circle jerk.
Any further questions?
Leave race out of this...
It's about money.
Boston.com had it too
http://www.boston.com/business/news/2015/05/20/with-questions-olympic-bi...
Olympics
It only makes the Boston 2024 people look worse with these bullies/supporters at the meetings. Social media is so helpful in learning about this, I didn't understand the bullies' rage reading the Herald/Globe today.
People Yelling at Olympics Meeting
I am 110% against the Olympics in Boston. It's pretty much the dumbest idea I have ever heard of. How do you deal with rude and bullying people like that chubby little Barney Rubble looking idiot in the pic who looks like he's about two cheeseburgers and a pack of Marlboros away from quadruple bypass surgery? Yell back. Yell louder. Put on your war face like Full Metal Jacket. 9 out of ten times blowhards like this guy and his ilk will back down and leave the room dragging his tail between his legs. The rowdier these community forums get, the more likely Mr. Dominique-Strauss IOC in France or Switzerland or wherever is going to say "Non." to letting us uncivilized Yanks host their party.
Darling fascist bully boy,
Darling fascist bully boy,
Give me some more money, you bastard.
May the seed of your loins be fruitful in the belly of your woman,
Neil
Absolutely Disgraceful
What is a good course of action to take in the face of this behavior? Any ideas?
civil discourse w/o insult or disrespect, in sprit of olympics
Yes. You tell everyone in the room that the discourse must be civil and decent.
You tell that that you expect them to disagree but to do so civily, without insult or disrespect.
You tell the people in the room that if they cannot conduct themselves by that standard they be asked to leave so let's get the Q&A, discussion and debate.
That's what I'd do. What would you do?
Well...
Given the fact that the bad behavior involves the goddamned people responsible for doing exactly what you suggested, I would probably start by calling all their offices, calling the construction company's offices, and then possibly finding photographs of the jerks in the crowd and seeing if I can identify them for public humiliation. And suggesting that the next time this happens the cops get called so the local news shows up. But I'm reactionary. I was hoping for other suggestions.
Did anyone call 911 to ask
Did anyone call 911 to ask for someone to come and keep the peace?
Umm......
Dispatcher: "911 operator, what is your emergency?"
Caller: "People are saying mean things at a meeting."
Dispatcher: "......"
Caller: "In loud voices!"
I take your point, but...
...a former coworker of mine, who was upset when he looked at his boss's IMs (when she was away from her desk) and saw her saying mean things about him, actually called 911 and got some poor flatfoot to come file a police report. Crazy things happen sometimes.
"a two-person, all-white male panel"
That's when i stopped reading. Not to mention all of these people are career protesters.
@britnidlc = Occupier, femenizie
McCallister Crowley @Occupocalypse = Obvious Occupier
Robin @caulkthewagon = UHub resident Occupier #BlackLivesMatter
-Her and her friend on twitter were the ones who immediately jump to conclusion when a Boston cop was shot in the face. I want repeat or link any of the comments, their discussing.
Cassie Hurd @Classymscassie - Self described "Activist" aka i protest everything
Stacey @runningfierce - Self described "Activist"
These people (all of which aren't from Boston) represent a small, but very loud and persistent (and utterly annoying) voice in almost every protestable topic in the Boston area. They're on the fringe of rational though and are not a fair representation of Boston's citizenry.
They're all friends and this is what they do for "fun" i guess.
PS Adam, you literally found the most biased article and posted it.
What is "femenizie" ?
Neither my dictionary nor Google has heard of this word. What does it mean?
Femenize: n. dittohead, misogynist
It means anon (non verified) hates the women he lists because of the causes they advocate for and he listens to Rush Limbaugh.
You might have it backwards
I'd say it means anon automatically hates the causes because undesirable people like women and black people advocate for them. We all know that if Those People are in favor of something, it must be icky/wrong/bad.
For the record, I was not an
For the record, I was not an occupier. I *am* a founding member of Safe Hub Collective, though. You also spelled "feminazi" wrong. You should try to be better at Google. ;)
-@britnidlc
From the Safe Hub mission statement...
I feel harassed when you post here. My personal experience is valid, and not up for discussion. Please refrain from intruding upon my experience of the world again.
You are being a troll here
... and you seem to be4 doing this more and more often recently. Why?
Bob's Safe Hub critque seems like a critique of its founder
Michael, thanks for asking Bob this question. I'm all for asking question.
I'd prefer if Bob wrote a blog post about Safe Hub and then people interested in his critique could join in -- it seems like it's a topic that deserves it own thread.
I have an extremely low tolerance for hypocrisy
I have an extremely low tolerance for hypocrisy, and I guess I've been encountering more of it than usual lately?
Oh, it's your superior virtuousness...
...that explains your current posting behavior.
Okay....
Honestly?
I just looked through my last month or so of posts, and the one in this thread about the safe space thing is the only one that I would personally describe as anywhere close to trolling, and I'd defend even that post (above) as making a legitimate point rather than trolling.
MK I take your comment seriously
You are one of the people that adds a lot of value to this site. If you seriously think I'm being a putz, I take that seriously as cause for a little self-examination.
I've been surprised at the tone...
... of a number of your recent comments.
My method for _trying_ to stay civil here (and elsewhere) -- write the the most biting thing that first comes into mind -- and then erase it -- and write something more measured. -- or decide not to respond at all (Hoping I don't accidentally hit send before "fixing" that first draft).
;-)
Your Safe Hub mission statement...
...is anti-first amendment. You cannot limit free speech, as much as you and your far left ilk want to. I swore an oath to defend the Constitution against people like you. You will not silence anyone.
femenizie
That's when I stopped reading. That's probably when you should have stopped writing.
Femenizie? Is that a new
Femenizie? Is that a new dance routine or are you just showing you misogynistic ways? Go back to your mommy's cave and get out a dictionary so you can learn to spell.
Guys who call women 'femenzis' don't seem to understand occupy
Wonder why Occupy Wall Street is so angry with Bank of America and its brethren?
So funny that a "queer" white
So funny that a "queer" white woman with purple hair (does this give me a personality yet?!) is apparently an expert on diversity but any white male who exists is a beacon of oppression an intolerance. I mean I hate white guys too, just laughable how completely obliviously hypocritical it is. We get it, your struggle "more authentic" than everyone else and we are all tacit cogs in your ongoing victimization...
But guys, ITS NOT OKAY. SOMEONE WAS YELLING AT A POLITICAL MEETING OVER A MATTER WORTH BILLIONS I DIDNT FEEL SAFE AND ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO GUARD MY FEELINGS.
NOT OKAY.
Bring an airhorn
to the next meeting, blast it in the guy's face if he gets in the way.
In all seriousness, this is just more evidence that the city can't handle the Olympics-people can't even sit in a room and talk about them.
Edit: Boston.com has a fun take on this:
What a charming way
To encourage people to "sit in a room and talk"
Funny ommision from the Storify article
Must not have fit the narrative.
I agree
But it still doesn't excuse the random audience member who physically got between the speaker and the mic or the meeting's organizers for not stepping in at that point. Or the canned response to the initial question.
Then there's the whole thing with the guy pictured in the initial story calling a woman a "fucking piece of shit" and how BDC (and meeting organizers) completely ignored that.
Yeah but thats the thing
What other elements were exaggerated or omitted because they didn't fit the narrative?
City of Boston employee whose salary we're paying
John FitzGerald shouldn't be telling people to sit down.
It'd fine if asked Hanson to go to the end of the line to ask another question or told him that they'll come back to it after others have a chance.
Lunkhead just made it worse.
i'm totally & utterly against the olympics BUT...
...you're right. I wasn't at the Dot meeting, have been at a few others. A handful of NoBostonOlympics people-- not many, certainly not most, but it doesn't have to be-- have monopolized the mike, repeated the same points ad nauseum, and basically gamed the system so that a lot of other people give up & leave before they have a chance to speak. The inane part of that is that this small handful of NBO people are preventing Olympic opponents who have fresh points to make from speaking. That's too bad, because most NBO volunteers are good people, but people who should be allied are getting irritated.
When someone has already paid for two hours of babysitting, is waiting patiently to ask a question/make a comment, sees a guy get the mike a second time because because someone "gave" him their slot and he rants for longer than the allotted time over a point that has already been made, it feels less like free expression and more like her chance to speak is being sabotaged.
Well said.
Has no one thought to videotape these meetings? I'm also 100% against the Olympics happening here (and I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you, to hear that union goons were being rude and aggressive at a meeting--sorry, but was anyone here for the mayoral campaign?) But the minute I saw who was tweeting this whole thing--ie the exact same professional-"activist" crowd who fanned the worst of the BLM hysteria after the cop got shot in the face--the credibility of the story just crumbled. Not that it didn't happen but it's very easy to imagine that there was rudeness and hostility on both sides, as Dot News reported. Next time, film it--unedited--so that we can get a clearer picture of what went down.
The city films all the meetings
and posts them on their website. It should be up in a couple days and should definitely show the crowd being aggressive and the man who stood up to block the microphone.
This isn't accurate
Many of the same faces are at the meetings, yes, but the NoBoston2024 and NBO folks are there to document what happens and update social media, as well as network with new people they meet who also oppose. It's how you organize. They ALWAYS wait until the end of the meeting when all new faces and/or residents have spoken before taking the mic.
It is accurate
...and I have chosen not to name on UHub one of the two people I've witnessed do this-- I don't know the name of the second person. I'll think about doing it, though, if people continue to say it's not happening.
I contacted NBO after the first meeting I saw him do it in. Since that time, I have seen him speak in two other meetings but as I was not there for the full meeting, I cannot say how many times he spoke those nights. Also, he was one of the first five speakers in one of those meetings, and did not wait until the end.
+1 to the airhorn
If any other ladies (or anyone, really) want to go into Boudica mode at the next meeting (or, if that's too arcane of a reference, Furiosa mode), we could do that.
If the description is
If the description is accurate, then Hanson should have returned to his seat (or to the back of the line) when Fitzgerald asked him to. That's the difference between a panel and roundtable discussion.
I honestly think that
I honestly think that responding to willfully rude and uncivil people would go so much better if there was always an airhorn involved.
Right
It's only "bullying" when they disagree with your opinion.
I'm not here to advocate for or against anything a decade from now but this discourse is run on this forum is embarrassing.
That's no bully, that's the mayor's cousin
Also named Martin Walsh and head of the Local 223. Funny how that works, isn't it?
Ten points for proper identification
Third picture from the top here:
http://www.aflcio-hit.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=3057
Mr. Mayor, your cousin, Martin Walsh, the Business Manager of Local 223, called a local woman a "fucking piece of shit" for opposing the olympics bid, which would personally benefit him and the construction industry in Boston, at the expense of other residents. What is your response to his behavior?
I have a follow-up: Mr. Mayor, are you planning to run for a second term?
"Walsh way"
So is this tactic the "Walsh way" referred to in the email here:
http://wgbhnews.org/post/mayor-marty-walshs-political-machine-campaign-b...
Curious if you sent that to
Curious if you sent that to the Mayor? I would be interested if he or his office would respond. If people flood him (and news organizations and social media)with videos/ pics of these ppl doing this type of stuff he will have to eventually respond.
Put it on Citizens Connect
Put it on Citizens Connect
OMG, he's a chubby version of the mayor
Can totally see the familial resemblance.
Boston2024 -- a civil debate requires a couple of apologies
Assuming I have the identification correct (and I'm nor sure of that,) it wouldn't hurt Mayor Martin Walsh if Martin Walsh, Sr. makes a public apology to the women he berated and the audience, and John FitzGerald apologizes to Hanson and learns from his mistake.
So the implication here is
So the implication here is that he was sexist? Or is this just more name calling under the false guise of justice?
The guy seems like a piece of shit, but even the article mentions he did this to every dissenting voice male or female... So why the emphasis over and over and over again on gender?
Oh right because of equality LOL
inferring sexism
I think his behavior speaks for itself whether he was addressing men or women or both. But if he's just calling women "fucking piece of shit" and not addressing men with the offensive dehumanizing speech, I think your inference that he's sexist is the smart take.
The only people who support
The only people who support the Olympics are ignorant people or those who are paid to support it. These low lifes appear to be both of those things.
Putting the Civil in Civil Discourse
The smartest way to encourage "civil discourse" is to generalize and remind people that they are both ignorant & low life thugs.
Is anyone recording video of this?
Surely there is somebody who can attend these meetings and record them. I can't imagine it is too difficult to find out who these people interrupting the meeting are and find out what their real motive($) are.
I bet Fox News would love to run with the lede. "Union Thugs harass at Olympics Q&A."
Time to play hardball.
Someone was broadcasting it
Someone was broadcasting it last night via Periscope. I have no idea if there's an archive of that available.
It's grassroots astroturf.
I spotted the meeting schedule last week when I was looking for the bid documents.
https://www.2024boston.org/process
They have a road show going too hoping for leverage beyond the urban core. This play seems to be another fake it til you make it effort to maintain the appearance of community consultation.
statewide Boston 2024 meetings
Since there's going to be a statewide referendum, and the whole state may end up having to pay for some of this, I'm fine with having meetings all over the state.
BUT, I see no meeting scheduled for Somerville -- a city where Boston 2024 has proposed siting a large temporary venue (velodrome) and a possibly more permanent one (BMX track). They do have a meeting scheduled for Arlington, a town which to my knowledge has no venues proposed.
Mayor Curtatone is said to oppose the velo mess.
He's being a fairly smart negotiator.
But 2024 wants ankle grabbers, not hagglers.
It is another example of how 2024 acts like Raglan at Balaclava, ordering a charge from a yacht in the harbor while looking at the wrong map. They want that strip of open space behind Assembly.
One way to tell if these 'community engagement' kabuki fests really are just astroturf is by these meeting location selections. Somerville and Cambridge are fairly hostile places without a mayor cousin to serve as sergeant at arms for quelling the opponents.
Hand wringing about civility is probably like waiting for the bright elusive butterfly of love. It sounds good, upright and faux progressive but falls apart when you jam a bunch of bickering monkeys together to argue about some high stakes thing.
Marcuse did a good short work called "A Critique of Pure Tolerance", that may be a useful angle on the subject.
Cambridge had a meeting on March 18
according to Boston 2024's schedule. I didn't go to it. Did anyone here? I'd be interested in what happened there, because the proposed Olympic bid has a lot more impact on Cambridge (MIT, Magazine Beach, and lots of Harvard venues just across the river in Allston) than it does on Somerville.
Here's an article, Ron.
It's reasonably thoughtful.
The opening sentence sums it up well.
"Most of the comments and questions coming Wednesday to a four-person panel representing the Boston2024 Olympics bid were hostile, with at least one speaker accusing the panel of lying and another refusing to even look in the officials’ direction."
http://www.cambridgeday.com/2015/03/19/four-ways-an-uncertain-2024-olymp...
I attended briefly
I left a mere 20 minutes into comments/questions. Well, comments.
There were no confrontations within the audience that I saw. I was surprised, though, that one of the early commenters was someone I had seen at the Suffolk University meeting, and recognized as living somewhere on the Mission Hill/JP/Rozzie end of the Orange Line. I thought that the meeting was supposed to be for Cantabrigians and other locals to the northern side of the Charles, so that they could talk about their concerns.
I went
It was certainly not contentious like the descriptions of some of the other meetings, but in general the comments/questions were at most tepidly supportive (ie: "This has potential to be a good thing, if we do it right and make sure not to lose control of things") to skeptical (ie: "I just don't see how you can make this happen without major issues that will impact everyone in the state") to outright opposed (ie: "Pull the bid, this is a horrible idea").
I'd say about 20% were in the first category, with the rest split maybe 50/30, respectively. There were some really good, well-informed questions from some city council members and Cambridge board members of various kinds, as well as general citizenry.
Contrary to what some of the Boston2024 interns are posting here, while many of the "Occupiers" that they seem to hate do indeed go to most/all of these meetings, they actually don't dominate the microphone. Yes, folks from the Boston Homeless Coalition tend to speak at every event, but let's not forget that the largest homeless shelter and treatment center was just shut down and is now going to be used for a shooting venue, so...
Bottom line: just because someone opposes the bid for similar reasons doesn't mean they are "Occupiers" (again, not sure why that's a bad thing). I've never gotten up to speak at a public meeting before, and never been as engaged on a planning issue here in Boston before, but this has brought me out full throttle for the first time. I agree with many of the points raised by many other opponents, but why does that lessen the validity of my opinions as has been suggested?
When the leader of Boston2024 calls opponents "unpatriotic" and the Mayor of Boston calls opponents "not true members of the community" then they're just showing their true colors when they claim to be open-minded and listening.
Oh, and just because someone can't attend the meeting happening in their specific neighborhood or city on the day it happens, doesn't mean their opinion is less valid when they travel to another meeting that does fit their schedule. Or, in my case, Boston2024 doesn't even host one in my town because the mayor won't suck up to them.
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People from the BHC have a good reason to have a presence at every event. I have not seen anyone from the Boston Homeless Coalition get in the speaker's line more than one time at a meeting, at the meetings I've attended. The people I referenced in my post were not from the homeless coalition.
I agree that anyone who does not have the opportunity to speak at one meeting should feel free to attend another. But not everyone can attend more than one meeting, and as they have been scheduled to be particularly inconvenient to anyone with kids, a lot of people struggle to get to even one. I thought the meetings were being held in different venues so that people who may not be able to easily travel across the city would have a chance to ask questions or speak for or against.
Furthermore, the Olympic proposal causes different problems in different places. If no one is interested in hearing a variety of locals question/comment on the specific challenges facing each town/neighborhood, then why bother to meet in more than one location?
And, my post was clearly not referring to people who have not had a chance to speak at meetings-- I cited people who actually spoke at meetings, so much that they have deprived other people the opportunity.
I blame the Boston 2024 Committee for this problem.
After the first meeting, they could have changed the comment-lottery system and allowed only local residents to have the mike for the first hour, then opened it up for the second. That could have prevented a lot of the problems, including much of what happened in the Storify post. That is a Boston 2024 failure, no one else'.
Using profanities against the NBO woman as mentioned in the Storify post is obnoxious, rude, and should not have been tolerated by the Boston 2024 Committee.
Allowing the same people to hog the mike repeatedly is counterproductive, inconsiderate of the other attendees time, and also should not be tolerated by the Boston 2024 Committee.
They are not equal-- speaking in a threatening manner to an attendee is much worse.
But they are two different issues. That some of the pro-Olympic people are horrid does not mean that the tactics of all the anti-Olympic people are beyond reproach.
no meeting scheduled for Brookline either?
The bid proposes to use The Country Club as its golf venue, which would have significant impact on the town. But I see no meeting scheduled there.
I wonder why...
http://brookline.wickedlocal.com/article/20150325/NEWS/150328039
As a kid I always wanted the
As a kid I always wanted the Olympics to take center stage in Boston. I always felt like Boston was an underrated city when in ranking of popularity. As a young adult, I have many concerns about the Olympics. I still don't understand how they are selling this to us without having fully prepared a plan. Also shouldn't we the people decide if and how we want the Olympic games to take place in our city our commonwealth, not politicians and businessmen who are only in it for the money. Unfortunately the Olympics due to corrupt politicians will never be a financial success in this city. Only crooks bring their buddies or should I say their "muscle" to intimidate others and force their biased views and not hear the opposing side. Another thing that bothers me is that the only way to fix our crumbling infrastructure is the Olympics.....BS. What if another city wins the bid. It looks like were screwed either way. (PS.one thing I always noticed growing up here in Boston is why is almost every major building built but Suffolk construction. Coincidence, I don't think so.)
What a bunch of...
wimps our society has become. Bullying? Jesus Christ, we're all adults, if someone calls you a fucking piece of shit, call them a fucking piece of shit back. But, no, people sit there and twiddle their fingers on social media because they're afraid of the big, scary man who's yelling. Toughen up.
p.s. I'm 100000% against Boston 2024.
Right, and so...
...we're basically just giving up on civil discourse, and it's all about who can yell the loudest and longest. That about sum it up for you?
Honestly, you just went right off the unintentional irony charts with this one. I mean all the way off. Adults don't shout each other down and call each other names in a public forum that's designed to hear each other's point of view. And you've got the crust to suggest that it's the people who object to the childish behavior who lack maturity? You need to do some growing up yourself.
What civil discourse? The
What civil discourse? The meeting sounded like an absolute disaster from the start. Once you're insulted from someone in the crowd while speaking, I'd say you have the chance to stand up for yourself and not take it on the chin.
The fact is, these people see Boston 2024 as their meal ticket - do you see any meeting both sides involved in being civil? I don't. I don't know what the fuss is all about anyway, there is ZERO chance the Olympics are coming here. These meetings and the organizations on both sides are for people with too much time on their hands.
What happened to making more friends with honey than vinegar
No, you don't match an ad hominem attack with another; that just brings you down to their level. What you do do is to firmly refuse to stand down and state your question and demand an answer. If they let you do that, you win. If they don't let you do that, you win.
I remember that story
Pooh just wandered around with a jar stuck on his head like the dumbass he is. All in all, not a bad comp for John Fish.
You must be a genius
In your wold, Which one of us gets to be piggie?
The Rush Limbaugh way. Yell
The Rush Limbaugh way. Yell the loudest and then people think you're right. You should be able to debate, even heated, without acting like an asswipe.
Correct, the proper way is to
Correct, the proper way is to go in with an iron-clad, immovable opinion and patronizingly condescend to your opponent while all the while constantly patting yourself on the back for being an enlightened intellectual who truly believes you are smarter than anyone else on earth. Everyone knows local political forums are where the intellectual elite rain down wisdom on the loudmouth plebs.
It's the same coin. There's two sides ; )
Unbelievable
I really wish there was a way to put this thread on full blast to go viral. MANY people need to see this especially with The Walsh name attached. True thuggery
All the props in the world to whoever matched up the pictures to the offender. You should not, on any grounds, get away with this.
"True thuggery"...
Wow, we've gotten soft :p
How-to
Send it to all the local and state media, see who bites. Especially right-wing media; they'll follow the story just because of the union angle.
And, Twitter campaign. Hashtags to make it show up in the right places and @tags to get the right people to see it. (That's where Adam gets a lot of his news; people post @universalhub when they tweet.)
civic engagement
ironic that the mayor sent his director of civic engagement to the meeting
"...all white male panel"...
Yes, we all know that white males are the spawn of the devil. Give it a rest. I don't want the olympics in Boston, as I've stated before, but to bring racial hatred into this? Classles.
Also, the "tweets" are seriously entertaining. Apparently men now have to walk on eggshells because certain women might feel threatened...and "triggered". I'm not playing this game. You want equality, yet you say men are all supposed to shut up because you you feel "threatened". Don't cower as soon as someone gets heated. This "Britni" is only using her claims of feeling threatened to her own ends. Scared rabbits is not what feminism was ever supposed to be.
I don't think she's saying they don't have the right to speak,
Just that they don't have the right to intimidate and insult people at a public meeting where people are supposed to act like adults.
Except that you are literally
Except that you are literally guaranteed that right in the constitution...
These "activist" types...
...don't understand freedom of speech. THEY dictate behavior, and don't ever forget it?
You've just proved everyone's
You've just proved everyone's point of the panels not being diverse just by your comment.
No one said that white men shouldn't be on the panel. What they are saying is that so should women, black, Asian, Hispanic, etc. from ALL areas of the city.
Yes Dear Matthew; racism and misogyny does exist.
PS - This type of shit can cause trigger issues for survivors of abuse. Because guess what, that shit happens to women every day. Why not help the situation rather than continue it?
There were only two people on the panel
Having two people satisfy other's diversity requirements would be tough.
I found that quote above a bit hard to swallow, too.
maybe there should have been more than 2 people on the panel?
Yes Dear Matthew; racism and
Yes Dear Matthew; racism and misogyny does exist.
-a white woman
This type of shit can cause trigger issues for survivors of abuse. Because guess what, that shit happens to women every day. Why not help the situation rather than continue it?
Ever heard of exposure therapy? Probably a better long term solution than demanding everyone around you curtail speaking in non hushed tones about literally anything remotely controversial, but then again I'm not the one here arguing for "equality" lmao. In what world is yelling at a public forum in any way analogous to rape?
Well said!
I'm tired of having to walk on eggshells around people who revel in their emotional instability. We used to be tough and resilient in this country. Now, we have to abide this emotionally disturbed "Britni" character dictating how we're all supposed to act around her.
Correction...
"Racism and misogyny do exist." I just thought I'd fix that for you.
Listen, I'm sympathetic to anyone who has suffered abuse. In fact, I know plenty who don't use the abuse they endured as a tool to fight for their cause (I'm referring to the fact that she was apparently joking with her friends while at the same time claiming she was being intimidated by male thugs). Yeah, I know. I'm supposed to say, "Oh you poor thing..." and trip all over myself trying to make things as comfortable as possible for poor, cop hating "collectivist" Britni. Let me know if exercising my right to an opinion and free expression is threatening to anyone and if I should shut my mouth and step into line.
Almost there...
Guys, we are SO CLOSE on this thread. Can someone get markk in here so we can close this thing down?
I feel so guilty "liking" this
because of how sad and true it is, but hopefully this semi-serious jab can remind some of our regulars and anons of their ridiculousness.
Can I get a blank one of these?
n/t
These meetings have become pointless, except for one thing
The IOC should be wondering how the state committee is going to control crowds during the Olympics if they can't even handle the damn meetings.
I often hearing how the
I often hearing how the Boston 2024 bid needs to be saved. DON"T SAVE IT!!!!!! Boston doesn't need this, and, with the exception of ice hockey at the Winter Games, I don't care about the Olympics anymore. Seriously, years of headaches for one lousy fortnight of swimming?
P.S. Andrea Cabral now on WGBH radio, chatting up the "sustainable" Olympics and how it will help everyone in Mattapan. Ugh!!!
Adam. Thanks for coverage.
Adam. Thanks for coverage. Looks like Boston Magazine is running your story.