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A subway car emerging from the depths in days of yore

Old Boston subway car

But where and when? The folks at the Boston City Archives wonder if you can place this photo. See it larger.

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It's definitely a red line portal. I'm inclined to say @ Charles Station in Beacon Hill vs the Dorchester side of the tunnel (because the dot side doesn't come out of buildings like that)

Year? I'm going to guess 1912-1914ish.. shortly after the Cambridge Tunnel opened.

My second guess would be the old portal from Harvard Station in Brattle Square (where the station went to the yard where Kennedy School of Government is now), but leaning more toward Charles portal.

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Greenline subway tunnel in the west end..between north station and museum of science station..the background clearly shows clothes lines from brick buildings from Italian populated West end..

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I don't think so. However, I'm not convinced this isn't the South Cove portal for the old Main Line El.

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Cambridge Mainline (now the Red Line) exiting the tunnel from under Beacon Hill. The location of what is now Charles Street Station is behind the photographer.

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The Charles station was not built until 1932. Given how new that trackwork looks, I'd say this was taken earlier.

Also, it seems the current building is actually built closer to the tracks than that older one.

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Thanks for the clarification, which also explains to me why the original Charles Street station always looked like an afterthought.

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Is it going under Beacon Hill toward Park Street from the Charles Street stop?

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This is the first time I've instantly known a location in one of these photos, but like everyone has said, the Red Line portal just south of Charles/MGH.

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anywhere on Beacon Hill today? What would the condo association say??

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...but it looks very close to the late '20's #4 Camb-Dorchester cars:

http://trolleymuseum.org/collection/browse.php?id=00719RMA

Very likely the earlier series of cars for the Cambridge Subway, so it has to be the Beacon Hill portal.

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Yeah, the portal coming out of Beacon Hill. As to the trains + date; 600's around 1912-13.

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I usually put towels, bath mats and other big things to dry on the fire escape. Tiny dryers don't like big laundry!

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As long as it's historically appropriate laundry, I see no issue.

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Amirite?

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We should do as other states have done, and pass a law giving people the right to hang-dry laundry, without interference by condo associations or local governments.

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Looks like the entrance to the subway tunnel under Beacon Hill, between the Charles/MGH and Park St. Red Line stations.

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It's the Charles Street portal from under Beacon Hill.

The "when" is the question. Since it looks so clean, I'm going with 1912 also.

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Behind my first apartment in Boston (67 Phillips Street in Beacon Hill). Friends used to ask "can you hear the T go by?" Every morning before I got up I would hear Frank Oglesby Jr. say "Next stop....Park Street"

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There's an empty apartment in the Arch Stone building that is next to the Lechmere Viaduct and it's right at eye level with the trolley. It's been empty since the building was built a few years ago.

I always wanted to go into the leasing office to see how much the rent is on that unit specifically since it's eye level (and passengers on the green line can see right into you bedroom and kitchen)

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I had some trouble finding modern pictures of same spot, although looking it the right spot makes it easier.

http://oldtrails.com/HeavyRail/Boston/railhbos4.htm

IMAGE(http://oldtrails.com/HeavyRail/Boston/Images/boshsubway.jpg)

EDIT: Actually this is closer
IMAGE(http://oldtrails.com/HeavyRail/Boston/Images/boshcamtun.jpg)

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Those pictures aren't too modern. When they rebuilt Charles/MGH in 2007, they put up noise walls that block the view.

I'm not sure how nearby residents feel about the walls, but as a Red Line passenger, I sure miss the feeling that I'm riding a train into the side of an apartment building.

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?

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kinda

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Wait, they're busing between JFK/UMass and Ashmont!

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I'm not knowledgeable enough to date this picture, but looking at what other people are saying, there's a very real chance the Red Line didn't even run all the way to "Columbia" when this picture was taken. So I guess we win that competition.

(Of course, you could have taken a street car the rest of the way back then.)

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Thanks for playing folks! This is indeed the "Beacon Street Portal" also known as the Red Line Tunnel on the Boston side of the Charles River. The date is March 14, 1912

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