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Police: Man carrying $7,000 in cash gets caught evading $2.10 subway fare
By adamg on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 8:59am
Transit Police report arresting a Woburn man after he was spotted piggybacking behind another person at the Back Bay Orange Line stop around 2:20 p.m. yesterday.
Police were initially just going to write Timothy Chapman, 35, a citation for fare evasion, but then arrested him after discovering there was a warrant for his arrest on motor-vehicle violations out of Concord District Court. Police say:
During booking Chapman was found to be in possession of nearly 7,000 dollars in US Currency. Yes that's correct, he evaded a $2.10 fare while in possession of nearly 7 thousand dollars and had a warrant for his arrest. Hmmmmmmm.
Innocent, etc.
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Assuming he had a Charlie Card
Otherwise, it would have been $2.65, which would have left him with merely $6997.35 to buy whatever he was going to buy when he got where he was going.
Which begs the question...
...of civil asset forfeiture. Is the MBTA going to keep the money because possession of money is a
crimeproblem?Ya, do a search.
https://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-jersey/njdce/2...
Probably not
Carmen Ortiz isn't involved in this one.
I wonder if she's tried to seize the Tewksbury Wal Mart yet?
DOJ
Maybe not Carmen Ortiz. She's Fed and the DOJ issued some rules about asset forfeiture. I don't follow them, because I don't reasonably expect to need to...
It's usually used in the occurrence of a crime like seizing a drug dealer's boat, house, aeroplane, whatever. Some nastier DA types use it more often, sometimes just grabbing any amount of money that seems excessive for a person's situation. Then they don't arrest you, just tell you to sue them to get the cash back.
Which of course begs the question...
No it doesn't.
Begging the question means assuming the conclusion of an argument.
You are asking the question.
Forget it, that rhetorical
Forget it, that rhetorical battle was lost in the 19th century. Better to get over it and accept today's usage. I don't like it much more than you do, I'd guess.
Is that really so?
"Begging the question" is still a reasonably significant notion in philosophy and rhetoric.
Yes, but UHub is not full of
Yes, but UHub is not full of students in those classes, and neither is the rest of the world.
So what...
... using the phrase incorrectly means essentially nothing -- it is simply a pretentious affectation.
Never surrender. ;-}
.
http://i.imgur.com/DyXPwnM.gif
Hold the line! Don't give in!
Also, hold the line on the misuse of "literally" to mean "figuratively."
Holding the line
Does that mean we have to stop using "contact" and "impact" as verbs, too?
I'd be fine with the second, but the first is pretty darn useful.
Verbification of nouns ...
... while sometimes aesthetically ugly, does not rob a useful word or expression of its usefulness. So, it is less deleterious. ;-}
Ah, good.
But I would like to get rid of "impactful." That particular usage needs to die in a fire.
An impactful...
... jab -- right in the kisser. ;-} (or should it be "to the kisser"?)
Let's prioritize
Prioritize impactful, literally, alot ...
Impact was a verb before it was cool
I've seen this on people's lists of grammar peeves, and I don't get it. Impact was first used as a verb — first recorded use, 1601 — and later as a noun (1781).
Contact is the other way around, but Merriam-Webster offers this (hey there, snarky dictionary) usage advice: "The use of contact as a verb [...] is accepted as standard by almost all commentators except those who write college handbooks."
lives in a nice 3 story house
35 chestnut st woburn or rents ... prob has a job... we all break the law
sometime in our life he didnt show up for court..... 7 grand... maybe he
borrowed it or cashed in valubales like a rolex...
Very doubtful. I have a
Very doubtful. I have a better suggestion as to why he's carrying 7k in cash. I know you know what I'm thinking. Unless your stupid.
But Your Honor!
The fare machine wouldn't accept any of the seventy $100 bills that I tried. What else could I do?
No way.
I think he had a $7000 bill. They're very rare in these parts.
That would explain it
He didn't want to get 6,990 Sacagaweas back when he went to put $10 on his CharlieCard.
Yes.
At 8.1 grams, 6990 Sacs weigh, um, a lot. I had a friend of mine years ago take an unopened brick of $500 of them through carry-on at Logan. It was before Sept 11, when that kind of nonsense was tolerated.
124.8 lbs!
124.8 lbs!
DINGDINGDING!!!!! Correct!
Which of course begs the question...
This is called
pulling an ODB
Great reference!
Great reference!
If you evade enough fares
you, too, can save up to $7000!!
He needed it all to buy a car
He had to pay yet more money to the state for sales tax on a car. He was already going to pay the MBTA plenty more than $2.65 by registering and inspecting a car since funds are diverted to the MBTA by the state.
Friend of yours?
I guess this is how you would know, right?
Oh, and do note that car users don't pay their full share, either. General funds subsidize 40% of car use costs: http://taxfoundation.org/blog/road-spending-state-funded-user-taxes-and-...
Subsidizing private car use is far more expensive than transit.
This is the citation you want with the truth
http://taxfoundation.org/article/gasoline-taxes-and-user-fees-pay-only-h...
You will see that Mass Transit users pay only 22.5% of the cost in user fees, taxes etc., compared to road users paying 50.4% !!!
So, there! Nice job with cherry picking citations to make points completely out of context.
The people really getting screwed are car owners who happen to need parking, paying 137.5% of the cost. So, yeah, car owners get screwed again, the opposite of your claims, and the idiots who upvoted you!
PS, notice how Taxachusetts is #6 in states charging for it too.
Percentages only tell some of the story
The cost of that 40% subsidy per driver is vastly higher than the subsidy per transit user, even if the percentage subsidized is lower.
See also: $100 million dollars to fix Irene damage for 100,000 people, versus the cost of fixing the MBTA for millions of people.
Do the math dear. Oh, wait - you're the guy who can't figure out that capacity of a roadway is governed by intersectional capacity, not how much pavement there is.
Lanes count in intersections
Four lanes flowing through an intersection on green is twice what two lanes will flow during that same time period, given equal lane widths and other factors.
But, the bottom line is still that public transit is very heavily subsidized with fares covering a small part of the actual cost. Secondly, while automotive engine efficiency has gone up drastically in the last couple decades, diesel engines haven't, making cars the greener choice, especially for regional transit authority service areas with lower traffic congestion.
Roads are paid for by state
Roads are paid for by state funds, which come from non car drivers in the form of sales and property tax. And would you rather public transportation be abolished and have to deal with exponentially worse traffic, higher gas prices, and more auto related deaths? Your naivety is adorable.
Property tax is local. So is
Property tax is local. So is excise tax. So, every pot hole fixed by the local community saves a flat tire on a car and a busted rim or neck on a bicyclist.
HAHA
quiet Danno....
Beating a dead hobby horse
And the absurdly off-topic diversion award goes to......wait for it......
Maybe he only had $100 bills?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/01/les-moonves-valet-tip_n_7489026...
Text book
sociopathic behavior. They will lie, even when they don't have to. They will break laws, break rules, because they feel they don't apply to them.
Just saying.
Rest in Peace, good sir.
The mighty Goliath is felled by a petty stone-in this case, merely 2 dollars brings down 7 thousand.
I have had to piggyback at
I have had to piggyback at Back Bay after I got the dreaded "See Agent" message. I had more than $7000 in my pocket if you count the credit line on my credit cards, but I wasn't about to throw away a second $2.10 because of the T's faulty technology.
Fortunately I've only been stopped by a station agent for doing this, and not a T cop.