Chase and search through the Southwest Corridor Park
Around 8 p.m., BPD officers tried to stop a car in the area of McBride Street in Jamaica Plain as part of a drug investigation. Seems the driver didn't want to be stopped, so he took off, with officers in pursuit. Just as a supervisor was about to call off the search, officers managed to box the car in near English High School.
They collared one of the cars occupants, but another took off down through the Southwest Corridor Park. They got him fairly quickly, too, but not before he threw something onto the Orange Line tracks - which led police to ask the T to stop the Orange Line near Green Street station for ten minutes while they searched for that object.
Rachel photographed the start of the foot chase:
Police screeched to halt, chased suspect thru playground, then searched tracks/corridor.
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Great.
By which I mean great work by police, great that no one got shot and uh...(sarcasm on) great that this crap is going on in JP. Or anywhere. So f'ing tired of drugs and the wreckage that they cause.
How about being tired of drug enforcement instead?
There's no reason the police should have had to do any of this.
No.
There is actually. Do I think these guys should be locked away for eons? No. But please don't kid yourself. Drugs suck. And yeah, pot vs alcohol, I know, I know. But heroin and pills continue to wreck lives on an ever-increasing basis right here in our city. There is no reason to say that this is OK or to take some cutesy Breaking Bad pov that says this is a valid way to make a living and only the mean, bad cops are the ones who screw it up. And honestly, I'm getting sick of pot everywhere. If every young man or carful of kids I passed on a weekday afternoon was clutching a beer instead of puffing away I'd be equally worried. I'm glad frankly that places like Gloucester are treating addicts like addicts instead of criminals but sweet Jesus--it's like gluing a broken vase back together.
Stop
This is a wildly unpopular viewpoint. The VAST majority of Bostonians want the city to be what it is, a city; dangerous, filthy, ungovernable. This is not a place to take your family or hold Olympics. Boston is the guy getting a blowjob at state street while smoking a blunt. Stop trying to make it artificially safe for yuppies and developers. As you said, "it's like gluing a broken vase back together."
Spot-on
Yeah, you're totally right: any discussions of public policy vis-a-vis police enforcement of drug laws means that we actually want the city to become a squalid hellhole, a smoking pit where you're afraid to bring your kids to the Children's Museum, devoid of laws and completely undesirable for all new development.
Grown ups are talking, anon. Try to keep up.
Take your family?
As one of many with families in Boston, I must say please stay in your suburb if you want to behave like that. Boston is not your jizz rag.
I choose
to read this as extreme sarcasm.
Clearly you don't know, you
Clearly you don't know, you don't know...
Whether or not you think "drugs suck" has nothing to do with the fact that battling drugs with law enforcement doesn't work. It's not that your viewpoint doesn't make sense, it's that it is now antiquated as we've seen time and time again that current policies don't work. We've learned and evolved.
But who knows what's really going on with you. A complete stranger smoking weed has literally 0 affect on your life yet you're complaining about it.
Yeah drug dealers are nice
Yeah drug dealers are nice cuddly people that wouldn't be violent if it weren't for the law. Decriminalization would create nonviolent competition. But the current crop of dealers would never give up their ways until the bitter end.
If you could buy drugs at the
If you could buy drugs at the corner drug store, there wouldn't be drug dealers.
Yes. The real world is a
Yes. The real world is a comic book separated into good guys and bad guys.
"Broken vase" analogy
Yes -- thank you for the broken vase analogy.
Lots of people are now wondering why the crisis of drug abuse and drug-related crime hasn't improved, and draw the conclusion that war-on-drugs law enforcement is counter-productive. Some people go a step further and claim that drugs aren't so bad ... so the new catch-phrase "misguided-war-on-drugs."
But when we honestly look around at the damage done by drug addiction and crime, it starts to look like maybe there are other factors in society -- other than law enforcement or lack of law enforcement -- that are causing the crisis to continue.
Probably a complex systemic relationship - high unemployment among less-skilled individuals, long-term impact of the 1990s welfare reform, along with issues related to housing, education and other systems. The system of for-profit prisons has probably masked and worsened the problem - but there are probably some other root causes that need to be looked at more honestly.
Analogy
Ron is to police as Markkk is to bike lanes.
I don't hate police
I just want them to spend their time and money dealing with actual crime, not with what people choose to put into their bodies.
Ron would you be ok with
Ron would you be ok with someone selling heroin to junkies directly next door to you?
Drugs are sold on my street corner
I am not Ron, but I am quite familiar with the issues, because there is a liquor store right on my corner, and, like all liquor stores, some of its customers are drunks. So, while I'm not wildly enthusiastic about the presence of a business that sells an addictive toxin to addicts, I am also entirely unconvinced that the law and the police ought to be used to shut it down. We tried that in the 1920s and the results were disastrous.
I also live next to a CVS and a coffee shop
I also live next to a CVS and a coffee shop
A little perspective, please.
I know and love countless people whose lives have been negatively impacted--destroyed in some cases--by alcohol so I take it very seriously. On the other hand I know a lot more people who can drink happily, recreationally and safely. I know NO ONE who has dabbled recreationally or occasionally in heroin or OxyContin without it devastating their life or killing them. Do you? And while again, I can think of many alcoholics who have brought a lot of misery to their families, I can't think of any who got addicted after their first drink or stole from their parents or died on the floor of a public restroom. Please don't compare your local packie with heroin dealers next door.
OxyContin is a wonderful drug
I know many people who are able to lead comfortable lives, free of the devastating pain of, say, bone cancer or spinal injury, because of OxyContin and other sustained release opioid drugs. Just like alcohol, they have legitimate uses and bad abuses. And, just like alcohol, people die from them.
Come on.
I'm talking about recreational use. And yes--OxyContin made my mom's last days bearable so I guess I owe it one. The last huge bottle which a hospice nurse urged us to fill disappeared mysteriously during her last visit and I'm sure it made her thousands of dollars selling it to neighborhood kids.
Aw, how cute
Stop bitching about crack dealers peddling their wares on your block because I also have a drug dealer (liquor store selling 30 year old scotch) next to my $1500/sqft glass shitbox - limousine liberalism at its finest.
Does your liquor store shoot up competing liquor stores and anyone else who happens to be nearby every now and then? Does it pistol-whip you and steal your iPhone? Does it spray-paint meaningless crap on your glass shitbox? Does it force the neighborhood kids to staff its registers?
Read your history
No it doesn't, but then again, back during Prohibition, that's exactly what the local liquor distributors did.
History
Is history. Now, pull you head out of your ass, get back into the present and answer my question.
Seems obvious to me.
Seems perfectly obvious to me that alcohol prohibition turned the alcohol distribution business over to violent destructive criminals, just as drug prohibition has turned the drug distribution business over to violent destructive criminals. What was your question, again?
Somehow
Somehow, the image of an after work pint with colleagues at the nearest watering hole doesn't sync up with the image of an after work group nod-out after hardcore intravenous drug use.
Question
Would you want to have crack dealers on your block? Talking about liquor stores is nice and cutesy, but once again, we're not talking about AL Capine's empire.
I would rather....
.... have a legal, regulated crack dealer than an illegal, unregulated booze dealer.
Fair enough, but
Sure, history tells us that criminalization made the alcohol industry one of violence and mayhem. To a great extent, it has probably done the same for illegal drugs. However, it also seems pretty clear that certain illegal drugs are so highly addictive and destructive that safe, casual, recreational use is probably impossible. Hence the assertion of many here that alcohol and illegal drugs are not 100 percent analogous. Is this really so hard to understand?
Everyone uses narcotics for
Everyone uses narcotics for the effects it gives them, you can't say the same for alcohol.
What other possible reason is there to drink a drink?
What other possible reason would there be to consume alcohol other than the liking effects of drinking it, which, of course, include liking the way it tastes, liking the physiological effect on the body, liking the image of you that your choice of beverage projects, etc?
YES AND I EAT FOOD BECAUSE OF
YES AND I EAT FOOD BECAUSE OF THE EFFECTS OF MAINTAINING BEING ALIVE. Jeesem crow, the pedantics.
Those are all wonderful
Those are all wonderful points, and I am by no means a just say no crusader, but would any of you legalize drug people be ok with a heroin dealer actively selling heroin to drug addicts next door to you or in you 2/3 family house? It's the same question with the legalize prostituion crowd. I don't care what consenting adults do. But would you be ok with a prostitute giving a john oral sex parked in front of your house (and the likely discarded condom that comes with that)?
Bogus argument
I like using things made of steel. I don't want a steel mill next door to my house. I like having trash pick-up. I don't want the recycling facility / trash dump next door to my house. I like eating meat. I don't want a slaughterhouse or packing plant next door to my house. I like going out dancing. I'd rather not have a nightclub next door to my house.
The fact that I think that most activity that transpires between genuinely consenting adults should be legal doesn't in any way mean that I want any given activity next door to my house. Conversely, the fact that I don't want a given activity next door to my house doesn't mean that I think it ought to be illegal.
Bogus reply
Bogus reply. Every activity you cited has a an infrastructure attacked to it. Drug dealing and prostituion do not. Your upstairs neighbor isn't likely to open a street corner smelting operation or a recycling plant in your residence. Don't be silly. And the upstairs has crazy loud dance parties you are likely to call the police or ask him to turn it down and notch.