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1950s leadership for a 21st century Boston

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Quick, Marty! Get Tom Brady's assistant to destroy your phone!

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Just because the Mayor of the city is a public official accountable to the people doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to be a crook on his own time.

And besides, do you really want to read the texts of a Mayor who has proven he can't read? Why, I can almost see one now....

MWalsh: I can haz job still if Aquamn is made whole,lol?

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My favorite pic of Mahty.

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Walsh is betting that he can distract everyone from his olympic fail when he reveals that you only have to dial three digits instead of dialing ten digits to report a pothole.

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"fixed" in record time!

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One. Term. Mayor.

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I don't see John Connolly rising from his own ashes to run successfully. Or any members of the beloved City Council. There aren't many people with city-wide profiles to mount a strong effort. Marty's been fundraising and profile-building since Day One, and he's not going to lose because the Globe wants to see his cellphone.

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81 years young. Twice the governor and primed for concrete throne at city call.

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Much like many of those who comment on this website about the mayor and city council.

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Discounting opinions and commentary from people who live in surrounding towns because they don't live IN Boston is beyond ignorant. Have you taken into account that some may be one time city residents that were priced out, thanks in some part to all of the luxury (i.e. overpriced) development our city government has allowed to happen? Or that many may work in the city and therefore still have a stake in it? Beyond that, while surrounding towns do have their own governments, issues, etc., we live in a major metropolitan area. What happens in Boston affects everyone in our immediate vicinity. I would just hope people are just as vocal and/or active regarding their own towns and cities as well.

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If you are referring to opinions and commentary about crime, homelessness, the economy, the Olympics, etc... then yes, these are regional not city specific issues and the more (good) comments the better from people all over.

However, Don is obsessed with the workings of a City Council of a city that he doesn't live in and that's a different thing and seems both random and a waste of bandwidth. I know some people enjoy the comments, to each their own. I find them disrespectful of the idea of public discourse honestly in most cases, the same as I would feel if someone started posting about 'Obummer' on a post about say, the water main break. It fucks with the signal to noise ratio which makes comments (sometimes) worth reading here.

tl: dr - I should scroll on by more often.

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If you are referring to opinions and commentary about crime, homelessness, the economy, the Olympics, etc... then yes, these are regional not city specific issues and the more (good) comments the better from people all over.

Same page.

... obsessed with the workings of a City Council of a city that he doesn't live in and that's a different thing and seems both random and a waste of bandwidth...

IMHO, fair game if the city officials are directly responsible for some of the bigger picture issues that everyone is "allowed" to be vocal about, i.e.the Long Island Bridge closure, which lead to significant issues around homelessness, drugs, and arguably (emphasis to try to prevent a flame war) crime, and probably could have been prevented by city officials. And if anyone wants to argue against that being anyone's business/problem but Boston's, then Boston residents can't complain about Quincy making bridge maintenance and repairs more difficult, because even though it affected us, it's their city.

Above is simply an example, and for what it's worth, my previous comment/response was in response to what was said above it at face value.

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But there's been a long history of those who would never live in the City of Boston deciding how Boston runs it's affairs. To whit, when said USC Professor was Governor, he appointed the Licensing Board, which decides liquor licenses in the only municipality whose number of liquor licenses are limited by state law.

Brookline had a chance to be a part of Boston. They opted against. Hence Dukakis cannot run for mayor of Boston. Other towns never even voted. Until Boston becomes the area the size of Houston or Indianapolis (with places like Medford, Cambridge, and Weymouth part of the city) those outside of our 46 square miles can choose their own mayors, city councilors, and town selectmen.

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That is the lone reason?

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Ted Landsmark? Ron Newman? Adam Gaffin? Shirley Kressel? One of the university presidents?

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Ron doesn't live in Boston, and I think Silber's run for governor cured any local college presidents of ever trying that again ...

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Mayor Michael Flaherty!

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That politics will ignore.

Are phone records subject to FOIA? I mean, would even voice mail also fall under this? Would government agencies therefore be required to record telephone calls?

Yes, on the other side, we are talking about a written medium, but what if Walsh had called (or taken a call) instead of texted (or received a text)? Both texting and talking involve the use of a phone.

I suppose, in the end, the old adage is never write when you can speak, never speak when you can nod, but legally, it would appear to be murkier than some people let on.

As for the political fallout of this, remember that the guy who served 5 terms before him had a Chief of Staff who purged his e-mail daily, and we found out about that while an election was going on.

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This would not be a Freedom of Information Act issue, but rather a Massachusetts Public Records Law issue. Yes, the Massachusetts statue parallels FOIA, but there are differences. The main difference is that FOIA applies to the federal government.

Unless a particular exemption applies, generally every record made or received by a government employee (the mayor and his chief of staff for example) are presumed to be public records. Now, the public records law does not create an independent requirement to create new records (like voice recordings). That said, if there were a voice recording and it was not exempt and a proper request was made, it would be a public record subject to disclosure.

The requirement for disclosure is does not turn on whether you use a phone, computer, pen and paper, or pencil, etc. The determining factor, again assuming an exemption doesn't apply, is whether it is a record received or made by a government employee.

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... as of my last federal job in 2013, if notes taken or forms completed during a phone conversation were subject to agency retention rules, then they are FOIAable. Recorded calls would be, but recorded calls are very rare. That does not mean that other factors, like the Privacy Act, might not also come into play with both audio and written info, though.

Three examples:

1) You decide to visit the Grand Canyon. Someone in your party is on crutches. You call the National Park Service GC office to find out what preparations need to be made. If that NPS office logs calls, then your name and the time will be logged, and perhaps that the call was routed to visitor services. The visitor services ranger makes notes, then when the call is finished, fills out the form to be left with the gate agent letting them know your car gets a handicapped tag for parking and a courtesy wheelchair. No additional instructions re needed.

--The phone log is FOIA-able, though if you request it, other names may be marked out because of the Privacy Act.
--- The notes taken of information needed to complete the request form are not FOIAble under these circumstances, because...
-- The request form is FOIAble but would quite possibly be protected in part under the Privacy Act: if the name of the person requiring the wheelchair is included, that name would probably be sanitized out.

2) You call the Bureau of Land Management to find out who owns property near a reservation you're interested in buying, and you're pretty sure mineral rights are optioned with the property. The BLM officer takes notes of the location you're interested in, your name and a call back number, then tells you he will send you the paperwork needed to fill the request. You then accuse the BLM officer of covering for the land owner, of being obstructive, and you say you are going to notify your congressman that the officer didn't help, and you will file a FOIA for the information.

--All notes during a call like this are retained, at least for a little while, and are possibly subject to FOIA. Because the material is not yet redundant elsewhere (on a form, for example), because the convo took a turn and is no longer boilerplate, the notes have to be kept. If the caller had simply provided his info then waited for the forms, then only the cover letter for the form and the call log would need to be maintained in most agencies.
- The notes do not need to be kept forever, though. If the agency retention schedule directs that they can be trashed after 3 years, they are not obliged to retain them longer just because a FOIA was threatened.

3) A benefits rep at Social Security calls the VA to find out if an annuitant who has delayed getting Medicare past the deadline has been covered under VA benefits. The VA confirms that he has, so the rep calls Medicare to see if the late enrollment penalty can be waived. Upon finding out that having VA coverage is not an acceptable reason to delay Medicare under the regulations, the rep calls the annuitant. The annuitant then wants to file a complaint with Medicare.

--- All the calls in this case should have been logged and those logs retained, and at least brief synopsis of the info gathered in each call, and all would be FOIAble, subject to HIPAA and Privacy Act restrictions.

In general, notes taken during a phone conference, Skype meeting, or call are FOIAble so long as they would have been if all the transactions were face-to-face. Other factors can apply, of course, like national security regulations, disclosure agreements made between heads of state and ratified by treaty, or the Privacy Act, so simply being requestable does not mean the request won't be validly denied, if necessary.

Which gets to why agencies do not record phone calls. Not only is the expense of maintaining audio records much, much, much higher than simple paper or e-records, but the issues that arise with recordings are much, much, much more complicated. Imagine that last Social Security call-- and imagine that the annuitant breaks down and cries during it. You may not think about it this way, but even if no words are different during the call than if the annuitant stayed cool & collected the whole time, the annuitant may feel more exposed, and if that recording were somehow made public, or even shared for practical purposes within an office, it would embarrass him. He would possibly feel his privacy is at risk.

But, frankly, recording calls simply is not feasible within federal agency budgets. Retaining those recordings would cost a fortune-- at my last federal job, I was on the phone, mostly with clients, 8+ hours/4 days a week, and 5+ on Fridays. Most of what I talked about was covered under HIPAA or the Privacy Act. Going into the logistics of what maintaining audio files with sensitive information would require would mean I'd be typing this all week, but the NARA website has some info on it if you're interested.

There's a balance that has to be found in each federal agencies, between fulfilling their mission and recording what is done in the course of doing so.

Why Massachusetts has not developed FOIA regs modelled on federal is beyond me. It is not free-- retaining and archiving even records that don't suck up storage and memory like audio incurs costs-- but that's no reason to avoid it. Hell, it's one thing most people would happy to be taxed for.

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very informative.

I assume MA doesn't have this because our state governance is a mysterious cabal of patronage, hacks and fiefdoms which still works better than most other state governments.

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By Beryl Lipton, edited by Michael Morisy, JPat Brown
Massachusetts Municipal Association vs. the People
In Bay State records debate, towns are squaring off against their own constituents
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2015/aug/06/mma-vs-people-massach...

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More CORRUPTION out in the open, more to come soon on Fox 25!

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