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South Boston brothers charged with beating, urinating on homeless man outside JFK T stop
By adamg on Wed, 08/19/2015 - 11:08am
A judge ordered Scott (l) and Steve Leader held without bail pending a Sept. 3 dangerousness hearing, the Suffolk County DA's office reports.
State Police report the brothers interrupted their journey home from last night's Sox game to attack a homeless man they found wrapped in a sleeping bag on Columbia Road next to the JFK/UMass station.
According to State Police, their investigation showed that after urinating on the 58-year-old man around 12:30 a.m.:
They punched him multiple times and struck him with a metal pole. According to one witness statement, the victim may have slept with the pole nearby for protection.
The man was taken to Boston Medical Center for treatment.
State Police say Scott Leader, 38, and Steve Leader, 30, both of 375 Old Colony Ave., continued their pissing ways after their arrests:
Both became highly aggressive and combative while being booked at the South Boston Barracks - exposing themselves and urinating in the cell, challenging troopers to come into the cells to fight, banging on the cell door, and making threatening and anti-immigration statements. Scott Leader made a statement referring to the victim as an “illegal immigrant” and stated the reason he and his brother were arrested is that they were white and the victim was a minority (the victim, who is not being identified, is Hispanic). At one point Steve Leader punched and kicked the plexiglass on the cell door for 30 minutes continuously.
The pair were arraigned today in Dorchester Municipal Court on charges of assault and battery, assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, assault and battery for the purpose of intimidation because of national origin, open and gross lewdness, indecent exposure, disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, and threatening to commit a crime, the DA's office reports. Steve Leader was arraigned on an additional count of malicious destruction of property.
At a Sept. 3 dangerousness hearing, a judge will decide whether to keep them behind bars until at least the conclusion of their trial.
Innocent, etc.
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Yeesh
I'd hate to see their Followers.
Trump would be proud.
Trump would be proud.
Huh?
"Trump would be proud."
Why? Why would a person you never met be proud of some leaders that peed on a homeless person?
Why would you get thumbs up, except from blind haters?
These two guys are boobs. Bad boobs.
Sheesh
You Trump folks sure are touchy when it comes to people making jokes.
Heh. Funny.
Just calling out a bullshit comment.
People like Trump foment this
People like Trump foment this shit. But, you know, it WAS why they targeted an immigrant.
I assume it has something to
I assume it has something to do with:
well then
Don't they seem nice upright and outstanding citizens? /s
Reason #123,546
I refer to my neighborhood as SoBo and not Southie.
- The Original SoBo Yuppie
Get out
Get out
Mom and Dad
must be very proud.
Nuts don't fall too far from the tree
I would not want to meet their parents.
The parents
I agree. These d-bags did not pick up these behaviors and beliefs of their own accord. I'd be willing to bet it came from the parents. Especially since it's two brothers. It sounds like a family affair.
And I wonder if this is the same Steve Leader
In 2003, describing his struggle to get a diploma: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2457&dat=20030321&id=SaRJAAAAIBAJ...
The Steve Leader from South Boston listed in that article was 17 in March of 2003. It's 12 years and change later, and the Steve Leader from this latest article is 30 years old.
Sad
What's sad is that this is the type of guy who blames all of his problems in life on others. Immigrants, yuppies, et cetera. Nothing worse than someone with a chip on their shoulder, who isn't afraid to misdirect their anger.
Sounds familiar
Doesn't it?
don't follow leaders
I don't think it would have mattered who was in that sleeping bag, these guys were going to attack. glad they are off the street but we all know that's temporary. maybe they lose housing and they will live in the bathroom at north station this winter?
They might gain new housing
If we are all lucky, they'll be living in the MCI Apartments.
Mrs Leader is proud of her boys!
great find. Steve Leader made his mom proud by getting a phony HS diploma and Scott Leader made her proud by showing what a great fighter he is. Whole family s thick as $hit
Mrs Leader...
... apparently will be losing her apartment.
what are the odds
that they have complained about "the Yuppies" ruining Southie?
Fenway should ban them.
Fenway should ban them.
See?
This is what happens when the newcomers don't take the time to meet their neighbors.
If they hadn't
figured out a way to get into public housing (375 Old Colony Ave.), they too might be homeless. I can't afford Sox tickets because I pay a mortgage. But they seem to have the $.
Keep the government out of my medicare!
Taking welfare is wrong only when those people do it.
That behavior
especially the follow up activity in their cells, is obviously indicative of substance abuse, most likely an amphetamine or cocaine.
I would say most people who hate, regardless of who they hate (n this case these two contempt for the homeless guy), and regardless of what race, ethnicity, or socioeconomic status the irrational hater is, most likely where heavily influenced by the home environment they were raised in, most likely mom (and dad, if they have a dad) was a irrational hater.
What's ironic is these guys both sound like they probably had less than privileged lives, could very well have been or could become homeless themselves.
Don't underestimate the power of Miller Light anon.....
It can do all sorts of wonders!
These two
These two make the guy who punched the cop and kicked the cruiser back window out in Revere a couple weeks ago look like an upstanding citizen
Ridiculous
They both live in the projects. Together. At 30 and 38 years old. Probably with their parents who've been living off of the state for their entire lives. We need to break that cycle.
It's time to purge that entire stretch from Preble Street to the JFK stop. Make sure people who live there are actually supposed to be there and stop the multi-generational flop houses it's become.
Sorry to ramble, I've got my Irish up.
Soon, it will all be condos,
Soon, it will all be condos, thank god.
Classy
Anyone wanna bet if at least one of them was wearing jorts?
I don't know how much more of
I don't know how much more of this anti-jort hostility I can take.
/*sarcasm off
#NotAllJorts
.
Agreed
These guys are pieces of shit who should lose their public housing.
But imagine if this was about 2 black guys and you made the jort remark or said "want to bet one of them was wearing a fitted hat"? Oh my, the outrage that would follow, you racist pig, you!
Stereotypes are only OK when they're not directed at those people.
Actually,
I wasn't thinking of race at all. Just two guys from the projects in Southie, getting drunk and doing stupid shit.
Exactly
You're stereotyping Southie. But it's fair game, because they're only white guys from Southie.
I'm gonna pull a Jerry Sienfeld on you
and say, sometimes all this PC nonsense has to stop. Without stereotyping white guys, we wouldn't have Goodfellas, The Town, The Godfather. Or, Ted.
Are you braindead?
That's my point. I don't give a shit if someone stereotypes anyone, they exist for a reason. What pisses me off is the double standard.
yea, I guess I didn't pick up on the sarcasm
glad we're on the same page. I just hope you're not a white guy who wears jorts.
If you really didnt give a
If you really didnt give a shit if someone stereotyped people from southie you wouldn't be frothing on the mouth here, but the fact that once again people from southie are showing themselves to be useless trash you start yelling about blacks. If it truly didnt bother you you wouldn't have said anything, but just like these thugs you find some delight in pointing out problems someone from a darker shade of skin had in a totally different piece of news. Its what whitey did for years, murder and deal drugs but yell and scream that it was all the blacks fault and irish southie pride bs.
Try rereading the thread.
If you STILL don't get the point, I don't know what to tell you.
This post made me think.....
Of all those people who are upset when blacks are called "thugs". Well whites are called "trash" or even "white trash".
My point is that the issue is kind of stupid.
It doesn't matter who these guys are or where they're from--
What those two guys did to the homeless guy was vicious...and disgusting, to boot.
Here's hoping those two guys who urinated on the homeless guy end up behind bars before they end up seriously injuring or possibly killing somebody.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Exactly what I was thinking. Can't imagine many of these comments being posted if the perps were from "Dirty Dot", Mattapan or Roxbury. These poor underprivileged lads are a product of their environment.
On the other hand
If the suspects had Chelsea/East Boston addresses and last names ending in Z, we'd have a different thread entirely going.
ugh.
Exactly. In fact we don't have to suppose anything. An undocumented asshole killed a pretty white girl in San Francisco and therefore every one of the 11 million+ undocumented immigrants is a murdering animal that needs to be deported immediately.
If you're black or latino, your actions represent your entire population (or if it's a bleeding heart talking, it's representative of "the system"). If you're white, you're just a bad apple. A loser. A shithead. Nothing to do with your entire culture. No that can't be. Said the asshole cheering on Trump, complaining about spics and niggers. Come out and say it and stop being a pussy. You know you do after a few beers and you're shooting the shit with your friends (the ones who don't get all uptight and pissy about this). You know why the country is going down the tubes. Too much melanin and not enough English.
(That 'you' isn't you, Michael - just so there's no confusion.)
No one born a while male in
No one born a while male in America is "underprivileged". No one has it easier in the world.
I disagree been in and out
I disagree been in and out off prison for 13 years and just got off probation after 13 years no diploma no privileged job
Kinopio is a moron
But you aren't helping.
Well that's just nonsense
un·der·priv·i·leged
\-ˈpriv-lijd, -ˈpri-və-\
adjective
: having less money, education, etc., than the other people in a society : having fewer advantages, privileges, and opportunities than most people : poor or disadvantaged
Full Definition
1 :deprived through social or economic condition of some of the fundamental rights of all members of a civilized society
2 :of or relating to underprivileged people
So what if those guys are a product of their environment.
That means that everybody who's been raised up in a rough-tough environment goes out and commits such heinous crimes? Come on! They were more than likely a product of their familial upbringing, with not enough guidance to steer them toward the straight and narrow, if one gets the drift.
Whenever there is violence in
Whenever there is violence in Roxbury the Uhubers race to blame race and just the other day were talking about how great the people of south boston are with their peaceful, white st patricks day parade, yet again and again the myth of southie, from terrorist whitey bulger to these sons of southie show the real south boston: sad angry degenerates who use racism and homophobia (with a general dose of hate for everyone) to try to distract everyone from the festering black eye of Boston - south boston.
Yup
A couple of scrubs who never made it out of Old Harbor show the "real South Boston".
Ah, the black eye of Boston, where 1 floor condos go for upwards of half a mil. Who would want to live there. I hear Humboldt Ave is LOVELY this time of year.
you can't make this shit up
Arrested for being white? Check.
Immigrants ruining the country? Check.
Address on file is public housing? Home run.
When did urine become a dangerous weapon?
Charges:
How many people have gotten maimed or killed by urine? Is there any proof that the bodily fluid contained anything dangerous or toxic?
So, changing a baby's diaper ought to get hazardous duty pay, double for a boy where not covering him up during the process would make him a felon!
Try reading before posting next time
> They punched him multiple times and struck him with a metal pole
Lucky...
"They punched him multiple times and struck him with a metal pole. According to one witness statement, the victim may have slept with the pole nearby for protection.'
Glad he didn't have a .50 cal Browning that he 'found on Comm Ave a while ago' or something.
Now don't you look foolish for not reading
along with the fools who upvoted you. "State Police report" -link ===>
http://www.mspnews.org/2015/08/troopers-arrest-brothers-who-urinated-on-...
What went so horribly wrong in your childhood?
State Police charged him with both assault and battery with a dangerous weapon (pole) AND assault and battery with a dangerous weapon (bodily fluids). You're quibbling over one of the charges against two people who allegedly stomped on some homeless guy who was asleep at the time they began their attack. Do you feel better somehow complaining about what you consider a trivial charge? Why don't you file a complaint with Suffolk County District Attorney Dan Conley, whose office considered the beating so horrible his attorneys are moving to have these guys locked up until the end of their trial as a danger to society.
Slow down there
You are projecting all sorts of things that aren't there again. I just asked about urine. I didn't intend to accuse the DA of anything, but now that you mention it, I guess they do pile up as many charges as they can think of to make themselves look good and let the court waste its time weeding out the bullshit ones when anybody is charged with crimes.
Do I think these two parasites living off taxpayers, accused of kicking and beating an older man with a steel pole are scum, sure. That, however doesn't change the facts regarding other questions. They are orthogonal; independent.
Why don't you drink a liter of it and let us know later?
You really are pazzo, aren't you?
Well if you think it's so
Well if you think it's so benign, lay down for a second...
there you go again...
Intent
When the intent is to harm someone and done against the victims will. A foot is not a dangerous weapon until it is used to kick someone who does not want to be kicked etc etc
Since 1986 at least Markk.....
I'll see if I can find the case but it was a brutal one where a boyfriend beat up his girlfriend and tied her up for almost a day. When the woman peed on the floor, the boyfriend wiped the urine up with a rag and stuck the rag in the woman's mouth and duck taped it again. He faced some more serious charges (kidnapping and assault with intent to murder), but the judge ruled that the urine was also a dangerous weapon when used in this instance.
edit: this may have also been a case where duct tape was ruled to be a dangerous weapons as well.
Suffocation hazard
Those cases sound more serious where there was possible loss of life due to asphyxiation. That doesn't sound like the case here at all.
you were arrested because you
you were arrested because you almost kill another human being , you two animals, it have nothing to do with color. I hope you get a prison record, and one of these days you two will be homeless also. Learn to control yourselves and act like two human beings, and not like two animals.
Wow, "Mystic River" lives. I
Wow, "Mystic River" lives. I thought everyone in Boston had a condo and a job in biotech, medicine or finance.