Conway said in his statement that this did not appear to be a “criminal situation,” though the district has been passing along infomation to the Melrose Police Department.
By bibliotequetressnotloggedin... on Wed, 11/25/2015 - 4:20pm.
THE PLAN OF THE GINGER OCCUPATIONAL GOVERNMENT:
No al-fresco cafe tables without umbrellas
Mandatory freckles. If you can't grow your own, tattoo.
Banning of clothes made in trendy colors that look horrible on redheads. Egregious offenders like cerise and navy blue will be used for prison uniforms
Telling jokes with any combination of the following words is an arrestable offense: carpet, drapes, terrorist, negotiate
Baptism will be by full body immersion into a vat of SPF 30
Giving a redhead a copy of Still Life With Woodpecker with the inscription, "Hope you like it-- made me think of you! " is grounds for justifiable homicide.
Or over your head? Just keep blaming the media for people being shitty to each other. It's not hard to understand the satire of the running ginger gag on South Park.
And in this case, idiots missed the satire and fully understood the kicking. Blame the jerk kids and their parents, not the TV show. If your kid can't figure out that actions portrayed in a cartoon might not be appropriate to carry out in real life, you got some parenting to do.
I wouldn't entirely blame the parents - the school culture in Melrose, as defined by the administration, bears a fair share of the blame. Seems the staff in Melrose have their own problems with bullying, and the administration has been ignoring quite a bit of it for a long time.
I have friends who split up some time ago. Both are teachers. One lives in Melrose, the other in Medford. The lack of top-down commitment to maintaining safety and keeping a lid on staff bullying (which, of course, spills down to the kids) is a big reason why their kids are at Medford High.
Some schools use the Archdiocese method for handling the problems generated by their LIFERs (lazy ineffective f-ups expecting retirement), because it is easier than disciplining them and firing them.
Some schools use the Archdiocese method for handling the problems generated by their LIFERs (lazy ineffective f-ups expecting retirement), because it is easier than disciplining them and firing them.
That was the Archdiocese's method of handling their pedophiles and other problem staff in churches and schools. You must not have been around here long. Public schools and employers often use the same "shuffle the problems around" sort of shell game with staff who should be dealt with otherwise. It was simply made famous by the molestation scandal.
I'm not a fan of the show, either, but I just saw this about five minutes before reading this post:
Since I'm not a fan, I don't watch much of it, so I really can't offer any kind of analysis of my own. I am merely winking happy little tiddles into a cup.
So one episode out of 265 and 19 seasons. I personally always saw the manpigbear episode to not be as much about global warming, but how Al Gore is going about the wrong way to get his ideas/points about it across and comes off as very annoying to many people. I mean, it is satirical. Its not like they are exactly nice to Bush, or even Republicans in general either. They seem fairly equal opportunity in their ridicule and satire.
Manbearpig was ten years ago and yeah, I'd agree this analysis is pretty spot on if you're looking ten years into the past. The show's been running for almost 25 years, Matt and Trey have grown up significantly, and the overall tone of the show is a lot more nuanced than it used to be. Compare Mr. Garrison's Sex Change to the fairly recent episode about Trans issues.
However even if the show is as apathetic as it was, blaming the ginger shit on the joke makes no sense to anyone with the slightest passing knowledge. I mean, come on, the whole anti-ginger movement was started and continues due to Cartman, who is as blatantly NOT the good guy as you can get?? It's like blaming the evil queen in Disney's Snow White because some jackass townie kids are poisoning each other's fruit.
I have only seen a few episodes of the show, but my takeaway from those few episodes is not in alignment with this random reddit (or wherever) review. The creators of South Park seem to call out ridiculousness wherever it originates. I sure as hell don't associate the creators with the braindead "u mad" or "butthurt" insults we see so often. For that I blame bullies. Like the dude currently leading in the GOP polls. We as a country reap what we sow and right now we are a mess when compared to our alleged ideals.
Maybe people like it because it's funny, relevant satire. It wouldn't be on TV this long if people didn't, so feel free to watch something more civilized and less disgusting.
South Park made it's debut when your kids were perhaps preteens (maybe a bit younger) so maybe you are looking at the show through the lense of a parent.
That said, I think the show is disgusting, funny, and considering the first 2, fairly intellectual. I mean, making Cartman think he's a ginger, leading him to create a ginger supremacy group, then, at the big hate rally, having Kyle tell him it's a dye job to point out the weirdness to singling out a single aspect of people to say they are either superior/inferior. Brilliant!
Of course, taste is subjective, and there's a lot on TV I cannot take, so don't worry about the haters.
As a former "ginger" - now quite gray - I'm damn glad this didn't happen to me when I was a kid. It was tough enough having orange hair, and often taking verbal abuse for it, let alone actually being physically attacked by a bunch of morons because of it.
Need I state that had the cause for kicking been skin color, rather than hair color, this would be treated as a series of serious hate crimes? Nah, didn't think so.
Wow.
(By the way, I enjoyed the South Park episode. It made a lot of good points about mistreatment of our fellow humans.)
P.S. Some folks with red hair find the term "ginger" offensive. I don't care one way or the other, but it's worth knowing just in case you don't want to offend somebody with red hair and more easily-hurt feelings.
M.I.A. did a video in 2010 called "Born Free" where all the gingers are rounded up. It is basically a ginger-genocide. (It is fairly violent and graphic with some nudity too. So it not safe for work.
..has always seemed pretty weird to me. When I was growing up in never occurred to us to make fun of redheads nor did we call them "gingers.". Is it completely driven by South Park? Did they just make it up or did it start somewhere else?
I think the term "ginger" for red hair was primarily a term from the UK. I don't think there was any negativity attached to it at first. It was neutral, like "bloke". The first time I heard an English person use it back in the 70s I had to ask what it meant. I don't know if South Park was responsible, but somehow it filtered over here and became a thing.
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What is the big deal?
These damn gingers are pretty much taking over this country. It's about time someone put them in their place.
Must have missed it.....
Conway said in his statement that this did not appear to be a “criminal situation,” though the district has been passing along infomation to the Melrose Police Department.
When did assault get legalized?
The Fire. Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.
The Fire
Foundation for Individual Rights in Education
http://thefire.org
Found the Trump supporter
.Found the Trump supporter
Naw
Pete? A Trump-eteer? Doubt it. He has some idea where his benefits come from.
I was joking
It was just a very Trumpy thing to say.
Except for one thing
Trump is a ginger.
If anyone needs a kick-a-ginger day
Its Donald Trump.
Time to consider dyeing my
Time to consider dyeing my hair then.
Trump is no ginger.
His hair is trademarked as rectal orange.
You don't have to explain
You don't have to explain yourself to her man.
also
It was also a bit of sarcasm that flew over a few people's heads, it seems.
Though overlooked in all this is that Trump is an occasional ginger himself.
is THAT what's on his head?
Good lord
Cheese and rice, man. That was the most obvious bit of sarcasm I have seen all week.
Soulless, every one of em.
Soulless, every one of em.
G.O.G.
THE PLAN OF THE GINGER OCCUPATIONAL GOVERNMENT:
No al-fresco cafe tables without umbrellas
Mandatory freckles. If you can't grow your own, tattoo.
Banning of clothes made in trendy colors that look horrible on redheads. Egregious offenders like cerise and navy blue will be used for prison uniforms
Telling jokes with any combination of the following words is an arrestable offense: carpet, drapes, terrorist, negotiate
Baptism will be by full body immersion into a vat of SPF 30
Giving a redhead a copy of Still Life With Woodpecker with the inscription, "Hope you like it-- made me think of you! " is grounds for justifiable homicide.
A bad dye job for the
A bad dye job for the offenders might be in order...
South Park inspired supposedly.
What a disgusting show. Never could understand its appeal to anyone who was even remotely civilized.
Disgusting?
Or over your head? Just keep blaming the media for people being shitty to each other. It's not hard to understand the satire of the running ginger gag on South Park.
The Peabody Award People Think Different
2006 Peabody Award winners. Maybe you are watching it on a middle school level?
The satire is fantastic and comical.
I hope Conan O'Brien comes out with a "Why Can't We All Get Along?" statement soon.
Thats the genius of the show
It appeals to idiots and intellectuals alike.
Yep...
And in this case, idiots missed the satire and fully understood the kicking. Blame the jerk kids and their parents, not the TV show. If your kid can't figure out that actions portrayed in a cartoon might not be appropriate to carry out in real life, you got some parenting to do.
School Culture Problem Writ Large
I wouldn't entirely blame the parents - the school culture in Melrose, as defined by the administration, bears a fair share of the blame. Seems the staff in Melrose have their own problems with bullying, and the administration has been ignoring quite a bit of it for a long time.
It came to a head with this incident: http://melrose.wickedlocal.com/article/20150916/NEWS/150916783
I have friends who split up some time ago. Both are teachers. One lives in Melrose, the other in Medford. The lack of top-down commitment to maintaining safety and keeping a lid on staff bullying (which, of course, spills down to the kids) is a big reason why their kids are at Medford High.
Yikes...
Any update on what became of that teacher?
Strung along until retirement
Some schools use the Archdiocese method for handling the problems generated by their LIFERs (lazy ineffective f-ups expecting retirement), because it is easier than disciplining them and firing them.
She was also the president of
She was also the president of the teachers union.
How anyone can not be anti-teach union...
....is ridiculous
This quote says it all:
This is a Catholic School?
I think the Archdiocese has nothing to do with this.
Reading comprehension?
That was the Archdiocese's method of handling their pedophiles and other problem staff in churches and schools. You must not have been around here long. Public schools and employers often use the same "shuffle the problems around" sort of shell game with staff who should be dealt with otherwise. It was simply made famous by the molestation scandal.
Well then...
> idiots and intellectuals alike.
Maybe I'm neither.
Visually ugly and utterly mean-spirited -- and (to me) not the slightest bit funny.
you must
be a hit at parties. Aren't there some kids to kick off yer lawn gramps?
Thanks
It's so nice getting insulted personally because one has a different taste in cartoons from some anonymous poster. Happy Thanksgiving to you too.
Difference
These are not really two different groups. As a matter of fact, to be a member of the second pretty much necessitates inclusion in the first...
yikes
I'm not a fan of the show, either, but I just saw this about five minutes before reading this post:
Since I'm not a fan, I don't watch much of it, so I really can't offer any kind of analysis of my own. I am merely winking happy little tiddles into a cup.
I didn't write THAT...
...but it sure sums up my feelings about the show. ;-)
in some ways unfortunate...
..the same could be said for the Daily Show where some viewers think they are working for social change by watching TV....
Rolls eyes
Have anything to back that up?
So one episode out of 265 and
So one episode out of 265 and 19 seasons. I personally always saw the manpigbear episode to not be as much about global warming, but how Al Gore is going about the wrong way to get his ideas/points about it across and comes off as very annoying to many people. I mean, it is satirical. Its not like they are exactly nice to Bush, or even Republicans in general either. They seem fairly equal opportunity in their ridicule and satire.
Manbearpig was ten years ago
Manbearpig was ten years ago and yeah, I'd agree this analysis is pretty spot on if you're looking ten years into the past. The show's been running for almost 25 years, Matt and Trey have grown up significantly, and the overall tone of the show is a lot more nuanced than it used to be. Compare Mr. Garrison's Sex Change to the fairly recent episode about Trans issues.
However even if the show is as apathetic as it was, blaming the ginger shit on the joke makes no sense to anyone with the slightest passing knowledge. I mean, come on, the whole anti-ginger movement was started and continues due to Cartman, who is as blatantly NOT the good guy as you can get?? It's like blaming the evil queen in Disney's Snow White because some jackass townie kids are poisoning each other's fruit.
Er...
I have only seen a few episodes of the show, but my takeaway from those few episodes is not in alignment with this random reddit (or wherever) review. The creators of South Park seem to call out ridiculousness wherever it originates. I sure as hell don't associate the creators with the braindead "u mad" or "butthurt" insults we see so often. For that I blame bullies. Like the dude currently leading in the GOP polls. We as a country reap what we sow and right now we are a mess when compared to our alleged ideals.
Maybe people like it because
Maybe people like it because it's funny, relevant satire. It wouldn't be on TV this long if people didn't, so feel free to watch something more civilized and less disgusting.
Thanks...
... for your permission not to watch this.
(I never suggested others should be prevented from seeing this, BTW, regardless of my personal dislike).
I have a theory
South Park made it's debut when your kids were perhaps preteens (maybe a bit younger) so maybe you are looking at the show through the lense of a parent.
That said, I think the show is disgusting, funny, and considering the first 2, fairly intellectual. I mean, making Cartman think he's a ginger, leading him to create a ginger supremacy group, then, at the big hate rally, having Kyle tell him it's a dye job to point out the weirdness to singling out a single aspect of people to say they are either superior/inferior. Brilliant!
Of course, taste is subjective, and there's a lot on TV I cannot take, so don't worry about the haters.
And this is why my family
And this is why my family stays in the city...children are way too bored in the suburbs and they get inspired by these idiotic shows.
To define this as a suburb vs
To define this as a suburb vs urban thing is silly, in my opinion.
yes, by all means stay in the city lest your kids start kicking red heads.
smh.,
PS, I love South Park, it's witty, current and pokes fun at everybody so no one is left without some kind of offense.
A breath of fresh air...
That's the definition of clueless right there
I bet you're pretty proud of yourself.
Captain Obvious
As a former "ginger" - now quite gray - I'm damn glad this didn't happen to me when I was a kid. It was tough enough having orange hair, and often taking verbal abuse for it, let alone actually being physically attacked by a bunch of morons because of it.
Need I state that had the cause for kicking been skin color, rather than hair color, this would be treated as a series of serious hate crimes? Nah, didn't think so.
Wow.
(By the way, I enjoyed the South Park episode. It made a lot of good points about mistreatment of our fellow humans.)
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
Gingerphobia Is A Huge Problem In England
Funny Stuff, But Unfortunately More Truth Than Fiction
Article about Gingerphobia in UK
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
P.S. Some folks with red hair find the term "ginger" offensive. I don't care one way or the other, but it's worth knowing just in case you don't want to offend somebody with red hair and more easily-hurt feelings.
M.I.A. did a video in 2010
M.I.A. did a video in 2010 called "Born Free" where all the gingers are rounded up. It is basically a ginger-genocide. (It is fairly violent and graphic with some nudity too. So it not safe for work.
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMvUlxXyz8&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtu...
Info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_Free_(music_video)
See also "Our Day Will Come" directed by Romain Gavras
This whole ginger thing..
..has always seemed pretty weird to me. When I was growing up in never occurred to us to make fun of redheads nor did we call them "gingers.". Is it completely driven by South Park? Did they just make it up or did it start somewhere else?
UK term
I think the term "ginger" for red hair was primarily a term from the UK. I don't think there was any negativity attached to it at first. It was neutral, like "bloke". The first time I heard an English person use it back in the 70s I had to ask what it meant. I don't know if South Park was responsible, but somehow it filtered over here and became a thing.
Nickelodeon
As Told by Ginger.
See Above
And go to the link.
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
I wold never kick a red head but I would hit up
Nicole Kidman, Ann Margaret,Laura Prepon or Julia Roberts..