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Two waterfront bars would be torn down for 22-story tower
By adamg on Mon, 12/21/2015 - 12:27pm
Architect's rendering.
Banker & Tradesman reports Whiskey Priest and the Atlantic Beer Garden would join Jimmy's Harborside and Anthony's Pier 4 as places that used to be under a developer's proposal for a mixed-use tower designed, as these things are, by Elkus Manfredi.
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TERRIBLE
this is a poorly written and stupid article ... there is no info and it is poorly written.
Worst article EVAR, and so short
That's why I provided a link to the more detailed report.
Fernando!
But
Is it poorly written?
Let's analyze Adam's "reporting"
Does it convey the 5 Ws?
Who? Elkus Manfredi designed a building.
What? A new mixed use tower.
When? Always tough to say when it will open, but it the "article" notes that it has been reported.
Where? On the South Boston Waterfront, where Whiskey Priest and Atlantic Beer Garden currently are.
Why? I've never understood this W. Like most articles about proposed developments, there is an implied answer "to make money."
Yup, for a little blurb with a link to a longer article, Adam hit all the main points.
As for your comment, you provide no explanation as to why it is "poorly written," "stupid," "has no info," and once again "poorly written." I'm sorry. I'm going to have to say it, your comment was bereft of anything to add to the discussion.
Boston is
slowly disappearing.
Whisky Priest opened late '09
And the Seaport before it was gross.
Well ...
One thing I loved about the Chinese restaurant it replaced was that you could call in an order, dash over in your boat and they'd lower your order down to you in a bucket.
Suburban Bros....
I made the mistake of going to both these places.. I felt like I was in Braintree.
The SoBo Waterfront will be better off without these two places. Now if we could just get rid of Remy's then this area will be the perfect destination for Boston's sophisticated class.
Let the bros, townies and suburban sports fans have boylston street, fenway...etc. The SoBo Waterfront should be for the Boston's educated crowd.
- The Original SoBo Yuppie
Don't worry, The "bro's",
Don't worry, The "bro's", "townies" and "suburban sports fans" will always have Broadway.
The educated crowd?
If the SoBo waterfront is for the educated crowd, where do you go?
yes!
Atlantic Beer Garden and Whiskey Priest have been institutions in Boston forever!!! Think of the children!
But
where will all the bros buy their cocaine now?
Where will Jerry Remy's son
Where will Jerry Remy's son(the non murdering one) get arrested for assaulting a woman now???
funny joke!
You must have been working on that one for weeks.
Dive bar
Will all the newbies and hipsters still be able to jump off the roof into the water?
Sorry, should have clarified better
bigger picture commentary along the lines of the "boxiness" mentioned in the article and Pier 4, which was a Boston institution. At least this tower doesn't look like crap, and I agree these bars wouldn't be a huge loss.
Good
They're not exactly landmark destinations of historical significance. And Boston needs MOAR HOUSING.
They're shitholes
Both of them.
Hey now, that statement is
Hey now, that statement is offensive to classy outhouses throughout rural New England.
Pinkies out bro...
Keep in mind that not everyone wants to drink a martini with a stick up their ass like you do.
Look man
There is a really, really big gap between stick up your ass martini and getting a Bud Light Lime with a whiff of port o pottie at Atlantic Beer Garden.
There are still plenty of shitty bars where you and your bros can hang out in your white Ralph Lauren hats and multiple popped collar pastel polo shirts.
Sure
We'll all come and hang with you geriatric's over at Abe and Louie's. We can afford it, because as you know, we are all trust fund kids driving BMW's that our parents gave us.
You should get out more.
trust fund kids don't even think of Boston, let alone live in it.
Trust fund kids live in LA, Singapore, Zurich, NYC, London, Oslo...etc.
Just because someone has a decent paying job, uses proper grammar and dresses half way decent doesn't make them a trust fund kid. However I can see why someone who hasn't traveled west of 128 would think that.
WTF!!!
HEY! IT'S THE HOLIDAYS! WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU FIGHTING ABOUT?
Can't we all just get along you condescending pseudo intellectual popped collar bro pinky drinking better than everyone piece of ......
nevermind.
No, they are actual shitholes
I went to Whisky Priest once and their pipes were backing up causing the place to smell like shit.
Once*
Clearly you're an expert
What was my encouragement
to go back? The place smelled like shit. Not figuratively speaking like they hadn't mopped the floors in a week; actual shit. Yes, I am an expert on not going back to bars and restaurants that fit this criteria. I spent over ten years working in restaurants/bars/clubs and it's a telling sign when you encounter something like this. "Hey guys, remember that place we went to that smelled like sticking your head in a sewer? Yeah, let's go back there!" Ok.
I'm not sure what's funnier.
The descriptions of the Whiskey Priest (sewer), or the people who defend the Whiskey Priest against criticism ("It only happened once!").
Not defending them one way or the other
I've never been inside - but was at a restaurant recently whose building had a similar problem - was not the restaurant's fault. Boston Water and Sewer or one of their contractors accidentally plugged up the outlet pipe while doing maintenance and caused a massive problem and huge amounts of damage (not while we were there - I heard about it after the fact).
Also happened at the Barking Crab
years ago
It happens all the time
My point wasn't that these places smell like roses every other day, but it's asinine for Paul to make a blanket statement that two separate bars smell like shit because a toilet backed up one time.
Dive bars are great
Particularity when they have an ocean view. Not everyone wants to go for a Pinot at Del Friscos. What I find funny is the same people that shit on places like this will later complain that the neighborhood is becoming to gentrified. Obviously the Whiskey Priest crowd isn't well represented here, but I love watching the people that completely dismiss and shit on things that don't directly apply to them at the time and then complain about the results later.
No.
Neither of these two are dive bars, not even close.
What's the big deal man?
Why don't you just get a haircut and get a polo shirt at Marshalls?
They will accept you. Don't be so self conscious. I'm ok you're ok.
You don't have to be relegated to dive bars forever.
You can LEARN to love a good $10 cocktail!
Taproom at Harpoon
Walk a modest distance further down the street and you can have a vastly better taplist for decent prices AND a water view.
and
They close at 11.
At least it's not a box
Well, at the very least it's not a box like everything else down there. Still pretty timid design when you think that it still needs to go through the meat grinder process that will force it to become ....a box. Better to go all crazy and then do the inevitable scale-backs. But at least it's a baby step in the right direction.
You want to add an exclamation point to the end of I-90 at the waterfront? You can look to Milwaukee of all places for inspiration:
The fact that we have to look to Milwaukee for more exciting architecture makes baby jesus weep.
YOU SIR
John I served with Elkus Manfredi. I knew Elkus Manfredi.. Elkus Manfredi was a friend of mine. John, you're no Elkus Manfredi..
Cariboutis Chickbarney
No. No, I'm not.
Our thoughts and prayers go
Our thoughts and prayers go out to the bros losing two of their beachhead bars.
T&P
Additional thoughts and prayers to the bars that have to house those bro-fugees.
Went to Whiskey Priest once
By the end of the one drink I had there, I had coined the new term "doucheteria"
They put the "hole"
... in "watering hole".
I can think of no better use for those two bars...
than to tear them down.
They are truly awful.
The rendering in the article
The rendering in the article needs fewer Hondas and VWs and more Range Rovers, BMWs, and Audis.
Whiskey Priest gone??Where will the
cougars go hunting?
Where Ms.Robinson is always
Where Ms.Robinson is always offering to buy you a drink.....or three...desperately....
At...
...Abe and Cougar's, of course! The manther and cougar-watching at that place is amazing. All straight from central casting.
Thanks
I understand that this was the plan from the very beginning.
I'd bet money that those two places will not find a new home in the Seaport. No skin off my nose. Not my preferred kind of hangout, but I don't see the point in busting on the people who like them. My behavior, dress sense, and the company I've kept in bars going back to my youth would probably not stand up to close scrutiny, either.
Like what you like and go where you like to hang out. Just try not to spill your drink on your fellow patrons, leave before you wear out your welcome, and tip your servers well: it's most often a hard job for not a lot of money, bad hours and no benefits.