Posted early this morning on the East Boston Open Discussion on Facebook (you have to be logged into Facebook to see it and its comments):
TO THE PERSON THAT SLASHED MY TIRE YOU LEFT YOUR FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER THE TRASHCAN YOU LEFT TO SAVE YOUR SPOT AND I HAVE YOUR TRASH CAN IF YOU WANT IT BACK COME GET IT THE POLICE WILL BE KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR TODAY IT IS A COMPANY TRUCK AND I AM NOT WORRIED THE TIRE CAN BE REPLACED
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Small amount of snow
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 10:38am
All this took place over such a small amount of snow.
Time for more popcorn
By cybah
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 10:38am
Time for more popcorn.. we knew this was going to happen.
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and
By Steeve
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 10:44am
And inexplicably, some people in that thread STILL defending the practice of leaving a piece of trash in the street to mark one's territory, particularly in a case where there is no snow emergency.
Yup
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 10:57am
I defend the system and I use a space saver. Someone slashing someone's tires is a crime and has nothing to do with the use of space savers. The space saver system works quite well in many neighborhoods and is used by many if not the vast majority of people who have to park on the street and shovel their own space.
All you people who either don't own a car or don't have to park on the street or are too lazy to shovel....just chill.
well
By Scumquistador
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:25am
i own two cars, park one in the street, and have to shovel. i still laugh at space savers. especially for this pathetic amount of snow.
talk about laziness? space savers are actually hilariously more lazy. they say that you want your own private parking spot but are ~*too lazy*~ to purchase, rent, lease, or move to a place where that desire can be accommodated.
the flip side to this is that appropriating a parcel of land because it is convenient and improves quality of life, while simultaneously butting heads with your neighbors about it, is possibly such an american tradition they should find a way to fire it off a barge in the charles instead of fireworks every 4th of july.
Chair
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:36am
You don't even use capitalization, you don't get to call others lazy. Also you basically admit to using public property even though you have a driveway to park your cars, which also implies you don't even live in one of the urban areas most affected by this.
i live
By Scumquistador
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:44am
on a street that is primarily street parking and pay a premium for the ability to have a(1) guaranteed spot.
that you're deciding to conflate the fact i elect not to use my shift key with the practice of space savers leads me to question your judgement.
but then, i suppose you knew that your reply was garbage, or else you might have had the sack to attach a name to your post
That you don't even bother to
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:56am
That you don't even bother to use the shift key, which is such a simple thing to do, as you imply, speaks volumes about the lack cogency of your comments.
If you are going to call people lazy, it helps if you don't habitually flout the most basic grammatical guidelines. That's how it relates to your spurious argument about space savers.
what if
By Scumquistador
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:20pm
the lack of capitalization is an affectation? because i certainly type fast enough that applying a shift key is effectively no more effort.
it does draw out and allow me to laugh at people that would use grammar in a blog to try and justify, well, literally anything besides a debate about grammar.
What if
By Diff anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:27pm
are just lazy and are calling other people lazy?
Grammar Shaming Is The Last Refuge Of A Scoundrel
By Elmer
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:41pm
scoundrel
By Scumquistador
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:46pm
its such a romantic sounding word, i always assumed they'd be up to something more interesting than worrying about shift keys
Keying?
By Elmer
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:54pm
No one's worrying about shift
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 5:09pm
No one's worrying about shift keys, rather pointing out that while you are calling other people lazy you look awfully lazy yourself not capitalizing letters.
sigh
By lbb
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 1:20pm
For God's sake, grow up.
It's completely relevant to
By different anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 9:20pm
It's completely relevant to the discussion. Criticizing someone for making an argument does not invalidate the argument.
Sack?
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:58am
Unless your real name is squmquistador, you're just the same as anon.
Not really, anon
By adamg
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:17pm
True, nobody knows who is behind the persona, but it's a consistent persona (and one only he can wear since he's locked the name by registering it). Somebody who visits the site regularly will recognize him, his opinions and his posting style and will treat him accordingly. In contrast, there are a gazillion "anons," saying all sorts of things in all manner of voices and so the content of your message becomes really, really important (well, as important as posts on UHub get, at any rate) if you want it to stand out.
It's sort of like reading an article sourced from the Boston Globe and one sourced from some anonymous Twitter feed. You either trust the Globe article more or you discount it immediately because you hate the Globe with the fiery passion of 10,000 suns, but there's a name recognition that comes with that in either case, even if you have no idea who the author of the article really is.
Obviously, I still see value in allowing anonymous posts, for several reasons I could bore you to death with, but at least he's registered an account, which, in as inchoate as a community as we have here, still counts for something.
My real name is Adam Gaffin, and I approved this message.
He implied it took courage to
By Diff anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:23pm
He implied it took courage to post under the name scumquistador. It really doesn't in the grander scheme of things. This is an argument about space savers after all. But, you are right, it is a name of sorts.
When you made yourself an
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:14pm
When you made yourself an arbiter of other people's laziness, your own emminantenty lazy lack of capitalization makes others question your judgement in that same trait.
The name scumquistador is not a serious name that lends any gravitas to your argument.
You have not explained how someone who spends hours shoveling their car out of a lot of is lazy. You can't in this context, because it is an inherently less lazy act than simply taking a space that someone else shoveled out.
I'm submitting this again because the other comment appears to have not posted.
Hours?!?
By J not logged in
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:46pm
Anyone living in this city who spent hours shoveling a car out of that dusting we got the other day, needs to move to Miami fulltime.
The post you are replying to
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 5:15pm
The post you are replying to and the ones above it were speaking generally about the space saver practice, not this single incident. You either didn't care and wanted to reframe the argument to suit your needs, or just didn't read closely enough.
Isn't it kind of lazy...
By lbb
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 1:23pm
Isn't it kind of lazy, not to mention pompous, to use big SAT words like "eminently" without making the effort to look them up? Especially since every web browser in the universe helpfully points it out when you screwed it up.
(go ahead, ding me for a sentence fragment, do)
It helps if you know the
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 5:20pm
It helps if you know the definition of a word yourself before criticizing someone for using it.
Eminently: to a notable degree: very
As in, lazy to a notable degree.
Also, sorry if you think that "eminently" is a "big fat word". You are just completely wrong.
Yeah, but what does...
By Michael Kerpan
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 7:50pm
..."emminantenty " mean? ;-)
It means spell check didn't
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 7:53pm
It means spell check didn't catch a typo, which is much less of an issue than accusing someone of not knowing the definition of a word while not knowing it themselves.
Eminently can mean "very", so
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 5:30pm
Eminently can mean "very", so it works in that sentence.
Except you spelled it "emminantenty."
By bannedinboston
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 8:27pm
Except you spelled it "emminantenty."
Do you not proofread or do you just not know how to spell?
If you delete parts of words
By different anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 9:18pm
If you delete parts of words then retype them its very easy to add double letters of syllables, as happened in that instance. Keep scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Good for you. Now explain
By different anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 9:22pm
Good for you. Now explain how it that word doesn't make sense in that sentence.
using no capitalization is much better than USING ALL CAPS
By Elmer
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:50am
It's a public street
By ian
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:25am
If you want a private spot you can shovel out just for you, you're welcome to pay for one
A space saver user calling
By Kinopio
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:32am
A space saver user calling someone else lazy. Now I've seen everything. Space saver users are the definition of lazy. Instead of looking for an empty spot or using public transit they steal public property and threaten their neighbors.
Space savers are used to save
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:42am
Space savers are used to save spaces because they know it will be extremely difficult to find an empty space after they shoveled out their car, you don't even seem to know anything that situation.
Many people don't work near public transit.
Extremely difficult!
By lbb
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 1:25pm
...and because they're narcissistic twats who can't possibly imagine anyone else being in the same situation, or couldn't possibly care if the did. Has it occurred to you that anyone parking in "your" space probably lives in the neighborhood and shoveled out another space in order to move your car? So, go park there.
If they are "in the same
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 5:21pm
If they are "in the same situation", then they have their own space they shoveled out of.
Unless, of course, they didn
By eherot
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 11:01am
Unless, of course, they didn't use a space saver, or they did and someone moved it...
Sigh... not this again.
By Bob Leponge
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 11:12am
In the downtown neighborhoods, there are 5x as many valid on-street parking permits as there are street spaces. That means that everyone's fair share is one fifth of a parking space. If you park overnight but take your car to work during the day, you are using about one half of a space. If, while you are gone, you try to leave a space saver in the space (that would otherwise be available for someone else to use), you are using twice as much. That's way more than your share.
Hoarding is sociopathic behavior.
It's narcissistic for people
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 5:25pm
It's narcissistic for people to take spots immediately after someone else shovels them, which is what the space savers are for, putting this specific instance aside.
"immediately after"?
By lbb
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 9:07am
Really? So, let's follow this scenario:
1. You shovel out, drive out, and leave a space saver.
2. An hour later -- not "immediately" by the definition of anyone who's not a paleontologist -- someone comes by and needs a spot.
3. This person removes your space saver, parks in your spot, is entirely justified, and not only is not a narcissist, but you have no problem with it whatsoever because it wasn't "immediate".
That sound about right?
what's funny
By anon
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 9:36am
Is this guy was arguing with a poster who has a chronic obsession with hating cars and anyone who drives him. Then the guy who's been notoriously vocal about space saving but admits they don't live in the city swoops in to reply. The comments on this site get funnier every day. It's not irony, but it's something.
If its extremely difficult to
By Kinopio
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 2:47pm
If its extremely difficult to find a parking spot then putting garbage in the open spots only makes things worse. Common sense and decency seem lost on you.
Which is why they can shovel
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 5:23pm
Which is why they can shovel out their own space next time and then they can put their own space saver in their own spot.
No they can't.
By Bob Leponge
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 11:14am
What about the people who weren't lucky enough to find an on-street space the day before the storm, or who work night shift and arrive home at 8AM after a snowfall? There are no spaces for them to shovel out if every single space has either a car or a space saver in it.
That's easy, you remove the
By Lmo
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 10:26pm
That's easy, you remove the space saver from the spot that was not shoveled. I always seem to find spots that are full of snow, were never touched with a shovel, I have no problem moving the space saver.
Dupe!
By Lmo
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 10:27pm
Dupe!
"Decency" is not taking a
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 5:26pm
"Decency" is not taking a spot shortly after someone spent ours shoveling it out, speaking about this issue of space savers in wider terms.
You lack understanding of a simple, fundamental concept
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 9:00pm
It isn't your spot.
It is a public spot.
It is on public land.
It is not your personal driveway or personal parking spot.
You do not own it.
You have to share it.
You are allowed to store your private property there for free, but only while your car is actually there. When your car is not there, it isn't your spot. It is fair game.
So you probably shouldn't be pushing your luck here with the entitlement speech or somebody else who doesn't own a car but pays plenty of taxes may start demanding the right to have a personal garden space or patio or other private use of that public land. One that doesn't involve a motor vehicle.
All you did was repeat the
By different anon
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 10:50pm
All you did was repeat the same argument. Nothing you said changes that it can take a lot of effort to shovel out snow.
Also, a lot of people pay for all sorts of things with there taxes that they never use. Try again, or better yet, don't.
It takes effort to shovel snow anywhere
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 01/27/2016 - 12:38am
Shoveling out your car is hard work, HOWEVER ... shovelling is NOT what gives you the right to a space!
Owning the land under the car (or renting it) gives you the right to the space!
Shovelling only makes it possible to use your car in either situation.
You do not own the street. You have to share it. Otherwise, you should not be allowed to have a permit if you can't follow simple rules of sharing.
If this nonsense keeps up, the city will be forced to limit permits.
It really is that simple.
None of this is relevant SG
By anon
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 11:09pm
We use space savers in Boston.
We have for a long time.
We will in the future.
The system usually works.
I don't know if it works in Medford.
But I do know it works in Boston.
Most of the time.
What's so special about snow?
By Bob Leponge
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 11:16am
Why is it that people seem to think that spending half an hour digging out a space entitles them to save the space. What about in the summer, the person who spent half an hour driving around looking for a space. Is he entitled to use a space saver, also?
Here's the difference Bob
By anon
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 11:33am
OK. I'll play.
In the summer I may have to drive around for 30 minutes to find a spot, but finally I do find a spot.
In the winter, those last spots just are not there if they are covered in snow. Last winter there were literally no spots, none, except the spot I shoveled and marked with a space saver. The city doesnt plow the streets to the curb and until enough snow melts, only a limited number of spots are available. Those are the spots that people like me shoveled.
I use a space saver when necessary, and I'[m not ashamed as many Uhub suggest I should be. I shoveled my spot and it's mine until the snow melts. And by; the way, almost all my neighbors use them too. Its a system that works, at least on my street.
From what I understand of
By melli_fera
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 2:36pm
From what I understand of this "space robber," he is on the elderly side, maybe with a bit of mental health issues, and has a very ill wife. So don't be so quick to call him lazy. There was ZERO need for space savers for this storm. And for someone to be that incensed to slash tires over a 2 inch snow storm says more about the saver than the robber.
One problem is....
By Neighbor4
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:39am
One problem is that when many people shovel their car, they pile the snow immediately behind or in front of their car. Even with the little snow we got this week, these piles tie up maybe 20% of the street, reducing parking for everybody.
So, you, Mr Space Saver, got your spot, but you tied up a bunch more of the street, and your spot sits empty for the 10 hours you're at work (or more hours seeing how non-lazy you are), limiting delivery trucks, workers visiting the area, or anyone else.
Someone should chuck your old furniture back up in your yard or just throw it away.
Whats the solution Neighbor 4?
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:55am
So Neighbor, on streets where you see this practice, where do you suggest we put the snow?
Yeah there really isn't an
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:36pm
Yeah there really isn't an easy solution to that.
flamethrowers
By Scumquistador
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 2:40pm
are not illegal in MA
You know why I use space savers?
By ChrisInEastie
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 12:41pm
Hint: It has nothing to do with shoveling out a spot. It's because if I don't, I won't have a place to park. There are a lot of us out there who think it's a stupid concept altogether, but have no choice but to partake.
And no, I didn't use one this weekend/today, which I'll probably regret when I get home.
Smug and spaceless
By John-W
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 1:29pm
Yup. I did not save my space as there wasn't that much snow and more importantly there was no snow emergency, so no space saving is supposed to happen. I had no space when I returned. Found another un-saved space for a bit and when I finally returned for the night ended up having to park in the High School parking lot.
I'm pretty sure that I'm suffering from PTSD as a result. At least that's the excuse I gave when the cops caught me pinching a loaf on all of the space savers on my block.
Tragedy of the commons
By Bob Leponge
Tue, 01/26/2016 - 11:17am
This predicament pretty much defines the tragedy of the commons.
I HIGHLY
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 10:47am
Doubt BPD with be fingerprinting a trash can over a slashed tire.
Eastie trash collector
By bohemka
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:31am
...implicated in surge in winter-time automobile vandalism.
I laughed when I saw that.
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:47am
I laughed when I saw that. Some people watch way too much CSI.
- local cop
space savers
By Kevin
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 10:58am
Boston is one of the most arrogant self entitled town there is. Right down to their sports teams. This whole space saver thing is a joke. Who cares if you shoveled out a spot. You had to anyway to get where you had to go otherwise you would have just left the car there to begin with. That being said. Doesn't matter if you have a trash can with finger prints on it or not. Unless you have a witness it means nothing. Police really don't care and aren't going to get involved.
Then
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:43am
Move if hate it and its people so much!
Logical fallacy detected,
By anon
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 1:45pm
Logical fallacy detected, penalty 10 yards.
....what?
By ChrisInEastie
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 2:23pm
.
It's only a matter of time
By Katie
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:07am
It's only a matter of time before someone is killed in a spot saver altercation... and quite frankly, after last winter's snowfall and scarcity of parking, I'm surprised it didn't happen.
BPD forensics
By bostnkid
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 11:10am
heading over with a crew? it sounds like an open and shut case with the fingerprints on the trashcan.
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