Sweet Tomatoes scene. Photo by Echoplex.
WCVB reports two people inside Sweet Tomatoes, 1279 Washington St., in West Newton, died when an SUV crashed into the restaurant tonight - and that seven other people were injured.
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It's by design.
By anon
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 7:49am
I agree that would make the roads a lot safer.
But if the state starts denying people licenses, they can no longer put their hands up and pretend that everyone is capable of getting to work/school/their lives via car every time they want to cut public transit or leave bike paths ridden with potholes or refuse to plow sidewalks.
Easy access to the ability to drive allows the government to shirk their responsibility to those who cannot/will not, and if they begin making that access more difficult, people will start demanding better transit alternatives. Which the state is loathe to do.
If you think the MA test is easy, try going out into flyover country where literally entire cities are built around the car and there may be a single busline at best. You can sleep through those and still get a license - it's all by design.
You do realize that many
By Patricia
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 10:12am
You do realize that many people NEED a car. Walking or biking isn't feasible for many. Also, remember the T doesn't serve many in the state.
There seems to be a thought that everyone lives near a T stop, or every town is served by public transit.
Enough with this division.
There are choices
By baepp
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 10:36am
that people make. Such as living in a secluded manse 5+ miles from the closest grocery store and a solid hour-long drive from one's employer. (These are the same people who complain about traffic, fyi.)
Choices, choices, choices.
Personally, I make the choice to live on a T line and within a 5-minute walk of 3 major bus lines. I also make the choice to live within 2 miles of my employer.
you have a choice
By Scumquistador
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 10:55am
thats good, not everybody necessarily does. it also seems like you've been fortunate to not experience any catastrophic MBTA delays, or you're willing to add a considerable buffer time to your commute so you're not having attendance issues at work. or your employer just doesn't care or is understanding.
mentioning people that "live in a secluded manse" is a great way to grab some support from the plebes here that can't stand anybody with money but it isn't really an honest comparison. i would say that roughly 99% of people aren't the 1%ers you're describing.
we can't really have it both ways all the time. the MBTA isn't functional enough nor does it cover enough territory that it can replace the automobile. this argument you're making comes the same damned week they're scaling back service while talking about raising the price of admission, WHILE talking about trying to cancel future expansion. so the public transit angle you're working at- not the best.
i'm damned lucky to have all the opportunity afforded to me in life to where i can position myself, similarly to you, to where its easy for me to succeed with or without a car. but i'm not quite so far up my own ass yet that i think this is the norm. i'm not even a nice nor good person, i wouldnt want a guy like me dating my sister, but i can at least see that shit aint black and white.
Well, you're lucky and you
By Patricia
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 12:34pm
Well, you're lucky and you don't even know it!
You made a choice to live on T line within a 5 mile walk.
It's great YOUR not impaired. You have the use of both legs? You have good eyesight? You are able to move around without any assistance? Count your blessings.
I guess you don't have young children to get to care before or after work, either.
I also suppose you're never going to age, again your extremely lucky.
I remember sitting at my desk in Chelsea watching an elderly woman with about 5 bags of groceries trying to board a bus. When one of the bags broke and the groceries spilled out, the inpatient bus driver took off and left her there to pick up her groceries. I left my desk for a mandatory meeting with thoughts of that woman in my head and left the meeting as soon as I could to go down to the street to assist, but she was gone by then.
Yes, in your world that is totally acceptable because I guess at least she wasn't in a car! Or, she should've made the choice not to need groceries, or better yet get old. Thats it in your world, right?
I'm so glad for you, it's all good in your world and hey - it's every man and woman for herself, am I right?
what??!?
By bosguy22
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 10:41am
You mean you can't throw your 2-3 kids in the back of a bike in January and take them to the supermarket? All while towing a wagon for your groceries? What kind of person are you?
the best part is
By Scumquistador
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 10:53am
people do that with the bike, and then people complain about THAT too ;-) or whine about BATTLE STROLLERS on the T, or love to mention how TERRIBLE parents are because they let a 5 year old sit 10 feet away from them with a juice box while they tended to their two year old.
shit man, people suck.
except me i have all the answers
Grocery stores deliver
By anon
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 10:54am
Both Peapod (Stop and Shop) and Roche Brothers deliver in Newton. As does Boston Organics, Walden Local Meat, Crescent Ridge Farms, and I'm sure there are others.
I've got two young kids, a spouse, and zero cars. Just the other day a Peapod delivery man carried $350 in groceries into the kitchen of our walkup home.
And, there's always Zipcar or Enterprise's car share service as well.
Folks who don't own any cars still use cars. They just use them as a service rather than pay the $100s/month in car payment, fuel, insurance, maintenance, etc.
Sure, how are those overripe
By Bugs Bunny
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 11:05am
Sure, how are those overripe fruits and old meats you get from Peapod?
So living in Newton affording
By Patricia
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 12:40pm
So living in Newton affording home delivery of $350 groceries is just like everyone.
i had an entire post written out
By Scumquistador
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 1:01pm
about casually tossing $350 worth of delivered groceries like it is something everybody does and how that was silly but
it ended up being more vituperative than even some of my spicier posts here and i'm sure people are tired of reading my mindless drivel.
i think i also had something in there about how touting the virtues of renting cars- when i actively avoid vehicles i can identify as rentals or student drivers- was silly. people in unfamiliar cars that are infrequent drivers are not people i want to be near on the road.
Last 4 cars I've seen
By Lmo
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 2:39pm
Last 4 cars I've seen stopping at the yield signs on x-way on ramps and almost getting nailed, or having trouble merging and switching lanes have been zip cars. Truly terrifying.
Use transit then
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 11:02am
I see people taking their kids on the buses all the time.
Of course, it would help if all those tax dollars that non car owners pay went toward, um, clearing out transit stops and clearing off sidewalks?
That's the problem here - no transit or poor transit access means people drive when they really shouldn't be driving.
i wouldnt tell somebody
By Scumquistador
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 11:27am
with no access, or poor access to transit, that they shouldn't be driving
Tell me, if I live in a town
By Patricia
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 12:38pm
Tell me, if I live in a town with no public transit, how again am I supposed to take public transit?
Take a cab to the nearest T stop?
Non car owners pay taxes just like everyone else and car owners pay more!
Oh please, we all pay taxes.
By Lmo
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 2:42pm
Oh please, we all pay taxes. Many of us don't use the services out tax dollars pay for.
Right
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 2:50pm
Everyone should pay taxes, but nobody should complain when huge expenditures seem to completely leave out their needs.
What a special little petunia you are.
The needs of transit user's
By Lmo
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 5:18pm
The needs of transit user's are completely left out? That's just incorrect.
What a special nasty little witch you are.
Right
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 2:50pm
Everyone should pay taxes, but nobody should complain when huge expenditures seem to completely leave out their needs.
What a special little petunia you are.
The Royalty in Denmark does
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 2:55pm
What is good enough for the commoners, is good enough for Royalty!
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Two things
By BostonDog
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 10:52am
Driving a car isn't a fundamental right. If your life requires you to drive a car and you're unable to drive safely you need to make changes to your life.
We don't know the cause of the crash but we do know two people needlessly died. There need to live trumps anyone's "need" to drive.
i mean
By Scumquistador
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 10:58am
yeah, it isn't a right granted legally, you are correct. you are also correct that if you can't drive safely then you shouldn't, the two people that died didn't deserve it, agreed, but yeah, we don't know what happened. so the entire tone of casting a sense of frivolity towards the person for ~*driving*~ is unnecessary.
the thing that is bothersome
By scollaysq
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 12:17pm
to me is why did the car veer left from the bottom of Chestnut Street? If it was indeed a brake failure, the driver would, or should, have sought to minimize damage by attempting to take a right onto Washington Street instead of running a stoplight and heading left into the wide intersection that encompasses Chestnut, Washington, Watertown & Waltham Streets.
The old Seth Davis hotel, where the pizza shop is, has stood there since the middle 1800s without being smashed into, at least not in my memory, which is long.
I drove a Veterans Cab there for years, if you lost your brakes at the top of Chestnut you'd be airborne at the road hump that goes over the pike and the railroad tracks.
Besides the obvious tragedy of it, there are a lot of things off about this accident.
veterans cab
By Scumquistador
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 12:14pm
good company, good drivers. both the waltham and newton side, in my experience.
these comments are bizarre
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 4:06pm
2 people died. not only is most of this relentlessly off topic but very callous as well.
the internet is for porn
By Scumquistador
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 4:13pm
and straying relentlessly off topic while being very callous
as well as being kept up to date on the gronk party cruise
scumquistador?
By bostnkid
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 4:31pm
do you ever shut up?
yes
By Scumquistador
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 4:52pm
yes
you are not a dangerous bully
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 5:14pm
but randomly flaming every comment is bullying.
ur rite
By Scumquistador
Wed, 03/02/2016 - 6:17pm
[img]https://i.imgur.com/qJFr0qe.jpg[/img]
Wake
By CRD
Sun, 03/06/2016 - 11:32pm
I attended Mrs. Miele's wake today. The length of the line I stood in to pay my respects speaks volumes about her character. She was the sister of a former colleague of mine. She left behind a husband, six siblings and an elderly mother. Can you imagine living well into your eighties and finding out, in the middle of the night, that your child was killed in such a way? Your spouse? She stopped in for a bite to eat before going to volunteer at her church. She never made it. So really, go on about your nonsense, that's way more important than her death, the death of a young man and all of those injured.
Day late, dollar short
By Kaz
Mon, 03/07/2016 - 8:32am
90% of the above discussion took place before any victims had been identified. How would you expect commenters to care or even know about her if it wasn't known to even her poor mother yet that she's dead?
Furthermore, how do you expect to prevent the next poor elderly mother and loving throngs from having to hear that their friend and family died if no one discusses the causes of deaths like this one?
You think you are pious by standing up to the Internet discussion that's tangential to your friend's life because they somehow disgrace themselves in arguing over the suspicions and not bowing to your friend's legacy. I think you overestimate your worth.
Any altruistic soul with a
By CRD
Mon, 03/07/2016 - 9:09am
Any altruistic soul with a shred of empathy could imagine how horrible it would be to lose someone, or have one of their loved ones suffer such horrendous injury no matter who the victims were. While the victims were not named in this article, in other news sources, days after the accident, they surfaced, anyone could have done the research. At least two others were horrified by comments and expressed this. I didn't see you attack them.
Is that a reason not to talk about the accident's cause?
By Ron Newman
Mon, 03/07/2016 - 10:31am
whether it was mechanical (brake failure) or medical (driver blacked out due to MS)?
Oh please -
By whiskeytangofox...
Tue, 03/08/2016 - 6:49am
Very few comments had anything to do with any actual concerns about the cause of this accident. Just a lot of holier-than-thou asshats who need to assert their specialness any chance they get because they can afford to live a beautiful car-free life in Newton so there's no excuse for anyone else to foul the world with their infernal machines of destruction, and a bunch of tools who like to hear themselves type. Clowns. Two innocent people were killed instantly. And everyone knew that from the beginning. And it had nothing to do with GD bikes or your precious car-free lifestyle.
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