Company promising safe gas pipeline in West Roxbury has Pennsylvania pipeline explode; house destroyed, resident burned
By adamg on Sat, 04/30/2016 - 10:37am
Bloomberg reports a natural-gas pipeline run by Spectra Energy exploded outside Pittsburgh yesterday, partially disrupting the flow of natural gas into the Northeast and damaging several homes.
WPXI reports one man's home was completely destroyed and that he was rushed to the hospital with burns - some sustained even as he ran away after his house exploded around him.
Spectra is currently building a high-pressure pipeline from Westwood to West Roxbury, where it is building a transfer station to pump the gas into National Grid's smaller pipes.
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This didn't happen
After all, the risk assessment conducted for Spectra undoubtedly concluded that there was an extremely low risk of anything like this happening. So it can't happen, right?
Right?
(note that I deal professionally with estimates of risk - and therefore know what kinds of things get ignored or cut from the analysis because they are either not easily quantifiable (such as risk of getting bad steel or welds or doubling maintenance intervals to save money) or considered to otherwise be "unrealistic" ... until things go boom).
Zappa
It can't happen here
It can't happen here
So I'm telling you, my dear,
It can't happen here
Suzy Creamcheese
Is Spectra's CEO Suzy Creamcheese?
What's the risk of this kind
What's the risk of this kind of thing vs. the risk of getting struck by lightning?
Since I take it you oppose the pipeline in Boston, if the risk of getting struck by lightning is greater than dying in a pipeline explosion, do you recommend everyone stay indoors forever to avoid getting struck by lightning, too?
So I guess this means that
So I guess this means that everyone will give up their gas heat and gas stoves now. Right?
Nope
But it maybe means gas companies should consider routes for new pipelines that don't run under major streets in front of people's homes.
Where should they run their pipes?
Is there *any* pathway in New England which doesn't run under or near people's homes? You'd need to submerge the pipeline in the ocean and ignore the marine damage.
All types of energy transmission is dangerous. The only solution is to use less of it.
The SPECTRA pipeline has nothing at all to do with gas stoves
It is about moving large volumes of gas around the northeast, in this case through densely populated areas and past a quarry whose seismic loads were ignored in the risk analyses.
The current (leaking) distribution pipelines in the Boston area are pretty much fine for gas heat and cooking. They would do even better if they weren't leaking.
Who is at risk, not you?
wxpi.com:
Gas line blast described as feeling like ‘earthquake,' ‘airplanes crashing'
GALLERY: Scene photos of gas line explosion in Salem Township
NEWSFLASH!
You need gas for energy to run your modern, taken for granted world? Then we need:
Pipe lines
Refineries
MA and New England NEED gas and oil. The shit doesn't just magically appear out of thin air. We have way too much NIMBISM in this part of the country.
don't think you read the actual newsflash
I don't think you can call it NIMBYISM when the back yard in question has blown up.
Excuse me,
but I did read it. Look, shit happens. How many people will die or be maimed today in all kinds of accidents? Doesn't detract from the reality that we need and run on gas/petro/oil, these things must be built even in congested places like here. The safety record for pipe lines is actually excellent, as is plane travel.
RIP to anyone who may have died in the Pittsburgh accident.
People used to die all the time by going through windshields
Happened all the time. Then the government required car makers to add seat belts and glass that shattered into a zillion tiny pieces rather than giant lethal shards on impact and now a lot fewer people die that way.
And I'm just old enough to
And I'm just old enough to remember when that happened and lots of old farts/cranks/sock-puppets complained that it was: unnecessary/ruining the auto industry/taking all the fun out of driving/making the baby Jesus cry.
Is using fracked gas in lieu of heating oil a mistake?
And if gas is a bridge fuel, where does the bridge take us?
My GOD
Adam, if "Group of bloggers in Boston write about community news and information" ever stops drawing eyeballs as a Google descriptor, I think we've found our one-sentence summary of UHub: (adjusted tenses)
Universal Hub: lots of old farts/cranks/sock-puppets complaining that things are: unnecessary/ruining the auto industry/taking all the fun out of driving/making the baby Jesus cry.
NEWSFLASH Erik:
I'm one of those 'old farts' that posted before you; I'M NOT OLD. I also live in the city and RARELY use my car. I'm not a fan of suburban sprawl. Nice try.
How many pipelines are built
How many pipelines are built next to a quarry where blasting is still taking place and the ground shakes on a regular basis? Of course people get hurt in all kinds of accidents every day but this seems like an accident waiting to happen that could easily be prevented. Why take the risk?
Geothermal/solar/wind power is the way to go and hopefully will become more mainstream over the coming years.
Solar panels don't blow up
Solar panels don't blow up people's homes.
Public outrage should ensue. Public servants should step up.
This is some footage of what the explosion in PA looked like today. Keep in mind the area in question in West Roxbury is much more densely populated and across the street from an active blasting zone.
To recap, our scenario in West Roxbury involves flammable gas transfer in front of a quarry that actively uses bombs in the middle of a residential neighborhood. What could possibly go wrong...? Take a look:
http://www.wpxi.com/news/man-severely-burned-his-home-destroyed-in-gas-l...
This is horrible!
Somebody's home got burned, a resident got injured. How long will it be before somebody gets killed outright?
Not long, from the sound of this whole thing.