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Brighton High School student arrested at school with a loaded, stolen gun, police say
By adamg on Thu, 06/09/2016 - 4:11pm
Boston School Police report arresting a 16-year-old Brighton High School student they say came to school with a loaded handgun yesterday morning.
Police say the teen had a loaded Bryco Arms Jennings J-22 handgun in his pants pocket when pat frisked around 8:50 a.m.
A Boston Public Schools spokesman said the student was stopped for an "administrative search" before police were summoned. He added the school was put in "safe mode" - school activities continued, but nobody was allowed in or out - during the incident.
The teen, not named because of his age, is scheduled for arraignment on charges of being delinquent for unlawful possession of a firearm on school property, unlawful possession of a firearm, possession of a stolen firearm and unlawful possession of ammunition.
The arrest was what turned out to be only the first gun-related incident involving BPS high-school students - in the afternoon, one student was shot to death and two others hit by gunfire outside Burke High School in Dorchester.
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How do so many guns get stolen?
Perhaps fewer would be "stolen" if there were some consequence for the original owner.
So if I steal your car and
So if I steal your car and run over a girl scout troop you'll be fine with being the victim of my theft and being charged for my actions?
Far fewer stolen cars than guns
Anyway, if I make it easy for you to steal the car (as in, I was effectively a straw buyer) then yes, I should be held accountable.
How many of these "stolen" guns are being stolen from locked safes?
A gun bought by straw buyer and sold to criminal is not stolen.
You're all over the place here.
If you have no young children
If you have no young children around why should you lock it up? You're blaming the victim of the robbery.
Yeah, I am
Too many stolen guns. If you allow your gun to be stolen you should lose your right to carry. If you're a gun shop and get broken into, you should lose your shop. Put your guns in a safe when they aren't physically on you.
Part of being a responsible gun owner is not letting it get stolen.
All right
Where do you live? I'll break into your house and steal everything, including your knives, and since you kept deadly weapons in your house and allowed them to be stolen you should lose your house as well.
Clearly you don't know MA law
Clearly you don't know MA law already requires all stolen guns to be reported and has 'safe' storage requirements. Federal law requires thefts from a gunshop to be reported.
Laws aren't the problem. MA keeps piling on more gun laws since 1998 and now has the highest crime rate in New England.
The problem is a 50%+ recidivism rate and lax enforcement. Little is done in and out of prison to convince criminals to change their behavior. Criminals never do serious time for illegally possessing a firearm. The feds never go after convicted felons for the federal offense of illegal possession and the state never enforces the mandatory minimums. The City of Boston itself has never enforced its AWB ordinance.
Not completely true.....
The feds do a pretty good job charging those with firearms offenses when BPD or the State catch them in my opinion.
Part of being a responsible
Part of being a responsible gun owner is not letting it get stolen.
So will you be bailing out the next gun owner who shoots someone stealing their property?
Uhm, because your License to Carry depends on it?
Legally, gun owners are required to secure firearms (unloaded) that are not in use. Loss of your ticket to own and significant fines can be imposed for non-compliance.
But don't let actual facts and realities related to gun ownership interrupt your narrative.
Most likely
In most cases, yeah.
If they stole my car before I realized, or ran over the girl scouts minutes after jacking me, then arguably I should not be held accountable.
But, by default, you are the owner of the car so you should have some liability in preventing it from being taken and used illegally.
you know how I know
you don't know jack about jack? Cause
a. Stolen firearms are required by law to be reported as such
b. No lawfully licensed individual would ever own a friggin' Jennings .22
Now if you live in some impenetrable fortress where nothing can be stolen ever, please chime in with your address. I'm sure you must know as much as you claim.
He was arrested by BOSTON
He was arrested by BOSTON SCHOOL POLICE not boston police please get your facts straight
I've corrected that in the original post
In reading the BPDNews account, I missed the word "school." Have added.
Real Issues.
Kind of puts the Whole BLS thing
In perspective doesn't it?
Name calling,micro aggression,
etc.This is far more worthy of
a federal investigation. WTF
is going on in these schools.
Stolen guns are really just the tip of the iceberg
The ability of people to traffic in relatively cheap weapons and large quantities ammunition is facilitated by a lack of national regulations on the amount and frequency of weaponry that can be purchased and resold. While Massachusetts may have tight gun ownership and licensing laws, there many states that place few restrictions on gun purchases.
Depending of where I go, I can purchase dozens of cheap handguns and bring them into to Massachusetts and sell them for a premium. I can go to gun shows and purchase weapons with little or no oversight. This is likely to be the source of more guns on the street than from theft from owners. I suspect "theft" is the alibi traffickers use when a weapon is eventually, albeit slowly, traced back to the original owner.
By the way, I am a gun owner and favor ownership but believe we need to rethink what we are doing now in favor of make sense laws.
Why new laws? By doing what
Why new laws? By doing what you describe you are already committing multiple felonies punishable by state and federal laws.
For a gun owners you seem clueless about federal and state regulations. You cannot buy a handgun out of state legally and take possession of it without having it transferred through a federally licensed dealer in state. Buying a gun for someone is else is against federal law period and is a big time felony.
Furthermore private person to person sales in MA are limited to 4 per year, go through a registered sale form, and take place only between licensed persons which have been background checked.
The trafficking you speak of is already highly illegal. What do you want it to be? 5x super looper illegal? More laws won't help. More enforcement will.
Different regions have different problems
Carrying and a concealed firearm in densely populated Boston is far different than in a sparsely populated rural town. Firing off a round in Boston means you'll most certainly hit someone or something else if you miss your target. Firing off a round in a sparsely populated area means your projectile has a pretty good chance of running our of energy and tumbling to the ground, before it can hit someone or something. How can you possibly have other states adopt the Massachusetts laws (some of which are just insane) when we have very different problems?
Never recommended Mass gun laws as the model
I am for national standards that deals with the purchase and sales of fire arms, a uniform method for licensing concealed carry, the requirement that gun owners be required to carry liability insurance, gun ownership require the completion of safety training and a ban on military grade weapons owned by citizens.
I have a class A permit and do not feel that any of these gun safety initiatives would remotely infer with my ownership tights.
How can this possibly work?
National standards can't work across all states. Someone here carrying lots of cash (ATM cash delivery guys for one) has far different needs than does someone who is only trying to avoid being eaten by bears (people in Alaska come to mind).
A uniform method for Massachusetts concealed carry can't even be adopted. Cities and towns makes their own rules. I'm willing to bet, your class A has a target and hunt restriction stamped right on it. When Comm. Davis signed mine, that's what he put on it. If you have no restrictions, then you had to pen a pleading letter to the licensing authority. You know who doesn't? People in other cities and town. They are given unrestricted licenses that allow them to carry in all cities and towns in MA, including Boston and Brookline (two very anti-gun cities). How does this make sense?
Liability insurance? No.
Our MA training program is becoming a joke. There are NRA certified instructors now providing firearms safety training in hotels, using video games. The MA training needs to be made better than it is.
NRA certfied means nothing in
NRA certfied means nothing in MA. Instructors are Mass State Police certified. Blame them.
You are willing to bet?
Yowza! I'll take that bet!
What shall it be $1000? $5000 - he'all, let's make it interesting...$10k.
Now this is how I propose we set up the bet: each of us puts up cash (you name the amount)...we ask Adam to hold it...winner pays Adam $100 for his time and assistance.
We agree to show him the original of my LTC permit - if there is no restriction for target and hunting on it, you lose. Let's take it one step further, let's double the bet about my having to pen a pleading letter to the BPD to get the permit without the restriction. Again I will show Adam my original approved application as well as my renewal application...no letter, you lose again & of course, I'll pay Adam a second $100 for his time and trouble.
So What'cha say?
The only ways to get an
The only ways to get an unrestricted LTC in Boston are if you:
-Are a victim of a felony and have the police report.
-Have a restraining order against a dangerous person.
-Are a doctor or lawyer.
-Are a celebrity, politician, or other prominent figure which can reasonably be expected to face a threat.
-Have proof that you routinely make cash deposits in excess of 10k.
-Be some form of law enforcement.
-Are a MSP certified firearms instructor.
-Are a politically connected ass kisser with a letter the right person in city hall.
-Move into the city after previously having an unrestricted LTC from another community OR be an old fart which had a LTC prior to racist Mayor White instituting the current licensing policy.
If you do not fit into any of those categories a letter will not result in an unrestricted license in Boston. Anyone which claims otherwise is full of it.
Sounds like you would like to get in on the action
with Boston_res…
I may be full of it but not over the terms and conditions of how I obtained my LTC.
Still waiting on Boston_res to respond…figure he must be down at the bank making a cash withdrawal.
So let's go through the list…
Not the victim of a felony.
No restraining orders in the past or present.
Not a doctor or a lawyer.
Not a celebrity (although I would like to believe my kids think I am), politician or prominent person.
Not politically connected and quite frankly whose ass I may kiss is a private matter and none of your business.
Not in nor have been in LE
Don't routinely make $10 k deposits (but would like to move into that category - figure you and Boston_res can jump start that with the bet).
Not a MSP Firearms instructor.
Did not have a LTC prior to moving into Boston.
I am approaching the age classification for falling into the "old fart" category but working hard to prevent becoming one - sure sign of "old fart"status is when you find yourself making repetitive, angry, condescending, know it all, snarky responses to other posters on Universal Hub
-a doctor or lawyer.
This is a big one, and not just doctors or lawyers, but anyone who appears to be wealthy or self sufficient and educated enough to write a nice letter detailing why they need a Class A license to carry without restrictions. There are many of them in Boston, and make up the majority of Class A holders I think.
Good list though, very accurate.
Pete you are welcome to join the bet as well
I did not plead a case written, verbal or otherwise to obtain my Class A without restrictions - all I wrote on the application was something to the effect "for all legal purposes." Nothing else - I am sure that there maybe subjective reasoning as to some people get restrictions and some don't but nothing I am aware of...just went through the normal process to include the interview and the gun range test.
Let's get this waging party going...
What is the bet Dave?
That you have a class A permit to carry without restrictions? I'm in agreement that people who can write a well thought out application without having any criminal history can get one.
This is just another case where police
are "insensitive" to this armed student. The BPD and Mayor refuse to acknowledge the hurt and pain he suffered with his arrest. I hope councilor Jackson among others protest this affront to the 2nd Amendment.