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Just another one of those things in life: Red Line signal woes at Alewife

Sarah Pakstis shows us yet another manic Monday on the Red Line during rush hour, due to signal issues at Alewife. "How is this acceptable?" she asks.

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I wrote a week or so ago that a quick glance at what adam reports on here (using the "The T" filter on here) pretty much says this happens every day. Of course, using Uhub as a gauge is not very accurate but gives you a good idea.

Its just about every day now.

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The T just has to take some of the demand off the streets, so that the important people, who use cars, are happier.

Screw the people who can't afford to use cars, or who are trying to be responsible.

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The "important" people will face gridlock as people abandon the T and move back to cars.

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Flew down the Esplanade this morning to work while traffic on Storrow was backed up because yet another moron with an RV can't be bothered with reading signage.

But biking isn't an option for everyone, I know, blah blah blah.

Whom I kidding, people will continue to sit in traffic and complain all day about it, despite most cars carrying one person at a time. We need congestion charges and more car-pooling. Again, fat chance that happens.

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:-) That's cute.

But alot of truth to that.

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yes, biking is not an option for everyone. Good of you to notice.

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Driving is stupid for most people, but they still do it, and complain about the "traffic".

As if they weren't causing that traffic when insisting on driving short distances for no good reason.

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do you plan on putting snow tires on your bike soon or ....

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Just take the Southwest Corridor!

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Winter isn't actually too bad, if the bike paths are regularly cleared. I've road the last 6 winters without issue, only a few days where the snow is fresh that is tough and I consider riding the T.

Sometimes the roads are pretty good right after a storm but then you get to deal with all the double parked cars in the bike lanes and people that can't be bothered to actually shovel out their spots make it even worse. But usually traffic is at a stand still so you can just squeeze by.

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And thats not including the nights and weekends where the subway is shut down for repairs, which happens all the time on the red and orange lines.

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Then again, I don't see a lot of the tech titans of Kendall Square offering up ideas to help their workers get to work easier so they can make more money for them.

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The MBTA didn't suck before Baker was elected. Nice try, you should have blamed it on Trump.

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The entire MBTA, especially the Red Line, is worse today then it was two years ago. I don't blame Baker entirely, but the first thing he did was set up a new oversight board and attempt to cut spending in various places. So far these changes have not improved the system and things have gotten worse for people who depend on the T for everyday transportation.

Things sucked under Patrick and Romney. Things suck even more under Baker.

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Yes, the T did suck before Baker took over, but it has been almost 2 years and almost no change, only weak promises of change.

Part of being in charge is getting off of your arse and doing something about problems, that wait for it, you are responsible to remedy.

Where did you take that logic course, day care?

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But there has been change, it sucks for less taxpayer money now.
There is a general manager that took a lot of heat before Baker who was asked to leave. The new general manager needs to start feeling some heat and start providing a reliability roadmap so people have hope.

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The T sucks for MORE money now, since Baker raised T fares after lying and saying he wouldn't.

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The new general manager needs to start feeling some heat and start providing a reliability roadmap so people have hope.

Before he leaves, too?

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You really have a short term memory don't ya

There is a general manager that took a lot of heat before Baker who was asked to leave.

No, she was pushed out. She was not asked to leave. She could have stayed and gone down in flames. She still had a few months left to her contract. She was tired of being attacked all the time. I would have done the same damn thing.

Baker was determined to get rid of her anyways because she was hired into that position under the Patrick Administration. And she would have put the breaks on anything he was trying to do. He knew that, so he made her so uncomfortable, she left. Hell, during the snowacpolypse, he refused to acknowledge her at all. It was insulting the way he treated her.

The new general manager needs to start feeling some heat and start providing a reliability roadmap so people have hope.

You really aren't paying attention are you? The GM has virtually ZERO power these days.. hell they haven't even sourced the position again since Bev Scott left. Every person who has been in that position has been 'interim". I don't think they want to source out that position again.. because the FCMB runs everything.

That 'roadmap' you talk about needs to come from them. And who controls the FCMB.. Charlie Baker.

Everything leads back to Charlie on this one...

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it sucks for less taxpayer money now

I'd think that this would be the case, but if someone can provide numbers that would be great.

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Crippling the economy on a daily basis, reducing productivity for millions of people, and cutting into the number of taxable hours worked do NOT reduce the burden on tax payers.

Learn to add and subtract, dimwit.

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But you know.. When Baker took office, he took on this mantra as "Mr Fix it", as he said he would "Fix the T". Sure the T sucked before he took office, but it seems like service related issues are way up. (and I don't care what that website says, its NOT granular that you can't see every day that it fails.. just a 'percentage'. And while ~87-92% looks good if you're grading 5th grade book reports, in terms of public transit.. its abysmal on time performance.)

All Baker did to "fix it" cut cut cut cut and install that useless FCMB who just see dollars and cents and not whether the service actually works or not. They have done very little to improve the service, and we're rapidly approaching two years. And I don't see any big changes coming down the pipe in the near future to fix the problem.

And yes, you can try to spin it that "well changes take a while". I've seen very little come out of the FCMB's mouth that actually benefits the riders for long range plans other than stuff that was already in the works before he took office (GLX, New subway cars, etc). All I've seen is more cuts cuts and talk of "privatization". They are more concerned about dollars and cents than they anything else.

Oh yeah, they also raised fares in July. So we're paying more for even crappier service we had before.

Sorry, he *IS* to blame for some of this. It's just gotten works since he was elected and installed that FCMB. I really am starting to believe this is all intentional so when they really wanna privatize larger parts of the system, he'll have the public support in doing so because it's just gotten that bad that the T is almost not usable that the public will have no other choice to support if they want service that works.

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We need to know stats concerning peak commuting times. My guess is that those stats are abysmal. On a daily basis I seem to run into a problem with either the morning commute, the after work commute, or both.

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Yes, the T has had problems for decades now. Much of it can be traced back to an inadequate public funding model, combined with the saddling of the T with unrelated Big Dig debt. Those decisions go back to the Weld administration, and his budget director...who's name is on the tip of my tongue. Yes, no way to tie that to Baker, I imagine.

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I LOVE my CAR!

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I LOVE my BIKE!

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I LOVE my FLYING SAUCER!

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I LOVE my FEET!

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Family member lived within walking distance to Green Line and worked downtown. Service was so unreliable (and uncomfortable) that she transferred to a suburban office so she could drive. Much happier now.

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I just took a job 10 minutes from my house, for less money. Why? So I wouldn't have to take the commuter rail any longer. It's that bad and the inclement weather hasn't even hit us yet. I expect this winter to be a complete disaster for the T.

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This is so sad (and totally believable/understandable). This is literally the opposite of what we should be doing as our species literally faces extinction from anthropogenic climate change. Oh well.

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You step off the trolley at rush hour, hustle into the station, look up at the sign and see "7 Min," think "well, not great but ok." Then you peer over the Ashmont precipice and see the platform already packed - children, strollers, elderly, suits, all resigned and miserable. Then the recorded voice announces delays. Signal problems at Alewife, might as well be signal problems on Mars, some inexorable law of fate you neither understand nor recognize. You breath a defeated sigh, hungover from a long weekend of overindulgence, and press your card against the turnstile. The dependable trolleys continue to roll in, along with buses. You know that today you'll be standing on the train, squashed in with everyone else, waiting longer at each stop to pack in more disappointed, harried commuters. You hope you won't be out of breath, huffing and puffing when you finally swipe your card into work that morning.

As the air gets cooler these days are starting to feel like Winter '14-15.

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The signal issues are due to a system that is as old as the trains themselves, and that aged system is failing. The question before the MBTA and its finance board is whether they will make repairs to the existing system or invest in a complete new system that would allow for more trains to be added. As of now that is the way they are leaning.

To understand the issue, we need to review.

We all remember the runaway Red Line train at Braintree. At Braintree the train operator tried to over-ride the signal that was stopping the train from going forward.

The signal which shows red and green (sometimes yellow) emits a signal similar to a radio signal that tells the train if it can go or must stop. The signal matches the color of the light showing - usually. However, the Braintree signal was not consistent. It kept moving from "go" to "no go" and the train's receiver could not lock onto this signal, so it was stuck and it would not let the train go forward. This is why the train operator got out to over-ride that system so he could get the train to go.

Sadly, he also had the throttle tied down in what he thought was "neutral" but instead it was in "drive." When he hit the switch outside the train, it took off. For what its worth, he was a scapegoat as this was the process that all of the operators knew was the only why to get the trains going past a bad signal, especially on the older trains equipped with this system.

The over-ride switch used to be in the cab with the operator but in a train rebuild back in the 80s they moved the switch outside. Why? because back in the 80s they were having signal problems and the operators were always over-riding the system. The problem then was that they were not always calling in for permission to do that. Why? The radios didn't work. So the operators broke rules to make sure that people go to the next station. The operators are not always the bad guy here.

Fixing these signals is not an easy task. The cables that feed them are sometimes miles long and are similar to telephone trunk cables you see feeding dozens of homes in a neighborhood. The problem may not be at the signal itself but somewhere along a mile or so of cable, and since it is an intermittent thing, not easy to find.

The fix would require the T to hire a contractor to replace miles of buried cable (under and beside the tracks) and also trace the cable off T property where it can and does leave the tracks. Since repairs can only be done between 1 AM and 5 AM (approx) when no trains are running, this leaves a contractor little time to do it all and it can stretch on for months. The original cabling was installed by Verizon before trains even ran on the tracks because it was like a telephone installation job using copper wire. Verizon got out of that game many years ago and any warranty long since expired and they are not interested in being engaged to fix this. Why? they are getting out of the whole copper wire business in chunks and will soon be all FIOS and Wireless.

(Wait till FIOS is installed in Boston folks... all of us with copper wire connections will be dumped like a hot potato. New owner will be Fairpoint Communications. Look 'em up.)

Because of the runaway train incident, the new process requires the train to have a second person appear in the cab and witness the over-ride to get by the bad signal. This means the person has to also be qualified to operate the train, not just a pair of eyes. You cannot use just any station attendant. If you are fortunate, the train is at a station when it cannot go forward. If its in a no-man's land between stations you have to wait for a second person to walk out to the train, get driven to a nearby access gate, or arrive on a train coming in the opposite direction.

None of this is going to get better in the short term. Plan accordingly.

New trains and repaired infrastructure take money and time to accomplish.

Feel free to blame anyone you want, but the hard fact is that we are all to blame ourselves, and all of our fellow Massachusetts residents, jointly. Had necessary funding been put into the MBTA for the last several decades we might not be in this mess. However, legislators in communities not served by the MBTA do not want their tax dollars to fund it. They fail to understand that the prosperity (sic) of the state depends on the T running and running well in the densest population core around Boston and vicinity. We learned how the whole state can loose out when the T was dead during the winter of 2015. Only now are they realizing this.

The same is true or rail investment nationwide whether it is long-distance, commuter, or transit systems. If they are not served by it, they don't want to pay into it, failing to recognize how such systems that move people, like any freight commodity, is important to a state's economy as a whole.

So we can blame Charlie, Deval, Mitt, and any number of past people in office but in the end it was the failure of the legislature, to make certain that funds went into the T. Forcing the T to take over the BIG DIG debt didn't help FWIW.

So, the question the T now faces is to spend millions on fixing the existing system that maintains the status quo for train spacing (minutes between trains), or spending millions on a new system that will increase the number of trains per hour.

In the meantime, things are not going to get better.

Things to watch... The T finance board is now starting to move projects to MassDOT. They already rebuilt two locomotives and painted them in a new MassDOT livery (remember the Capt. Boomerang thread?). And recently, they transferred the South Coast Rail project to MassDOT taking it out of the MBTA's hands. Watch for more of this as Charlie and company move to disassemble the T.

If you think that politics is a problem with the T now, wait till it's all MassDOT. If you cannot telecommute for work, you need to look into that now.

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Great post.. I agree almost 100% except

(Wait till FIOS is installed in Boston folks... all of us with copper wire connections will be dumped like a hot potato. New owner will be Fairpoint Communications. Look 'em up.)

It's gonna be Frontier. Not Fairpoint. Fairpoint can barely manage what it has in NH. They are way over their heads. The issue with Fairpoint is that they were a TINY company who got handed a bag of shit by Verizon. Frontier isn't much better, but they are far larger than Fairpoint and can absorb VZ's MA territory very easily and fold them into current operations.

Verizon got out of that game many years ago and any warranty long since expired and they are not interested in being engaged to fix this.

I don't agree with the first part of that statement. State has contracts with Verizon for such service, which include a SLA (Service Level Agreement). This is a required level of service according the contract. Now your second part of that statement is true.. they aren't interested in fixing this stuff anymore as they want to get out of the wireline business. However, it's up to the state to strong arm Verizon into fixing this, otherwise they would be in breach of their own SLA. Of course, it takes someone with a set of nuts to do this at the state level.. and that remains to be seen if someone does have a set to do that.

The T finance board is now starting to move projects to MassDOT.

This actually isn't a bad thing. The Silver Line Gateway is being managed by MassDOT and it's coming along nicely, in both budget wise and construction wise. Why? because MassDOT has the competent folks to actually manage such large projects, the T really does not. Remember Fast15? Yeah that was MassDOT using new building techniques to get stuff done faster.. the T.. not so much.

Look at it this way, when was the last time you heard outrage about a road project with it going over budget and not being built on time. With the exception of the Big Dig, lots of MassDOT projects go on without much issue. The MBTA needs more of this, not less.

And I'd rather have MassDOT take over, so it will get done on budget, and on time. Than some private entity who can thumb their nose and/or just keep requesting more money and the project length just growing and growing..

I've never understood why the MBTA isn't wholly under MassDOT anyways. It would save so much on administrative costs as they can share resources. Plus MassDOT should encompass everything transportation related... roads, rail, and transit.

And as far as placing blame.. sure, I bark about Charlie.. and I do think much of the issues in recent months is his fault (I'm also "in the know" too so there's more to this than I can explain on here). But generally, you're right, we can play the blame game on just about anyone who has been in office (Gov's & legislature) going back decades because all they have done is kick the can down further.

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Those summer weekend shutdowns where people had to take shuttle busses? Didn't signaling get worked on between Harvard and Alewife so it wouldn't break down like today? Does Verizon own those tunnel wires too?

For a tunnel built in the 1980s, the MBTA can't claim its a century old. Its not even as old as our 50-60 year old bridges in need of replacement.

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As far as I know, they were working on the Floating Slab Project.

http://www.mbta.com/about_the_mbta/t_projects/default.asp?id=22956

Not on signal issues.

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During the Regan administration two liberal lions named Ted Kennedy and Tip O'Neill were able to secure billions for transportation projects. Who can we look to fight for federal funds?
Liz Warren- nope
Ed Markey-nope
Charlie Baker-nope
Marty Walsh-nope
The MBTA is doomed without massive fare hikes.

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What about Trump and his promises of infrastructure investment? Will the Republican congress back public transit investments or is that too low-brow for their donors?

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Trump hasn't proposed and likely won't support a single cent of public investment in infrastructure - his entire plan consists of tax credits to incentivize private companies to invest in infrastructure, which won't work for transportation.

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Exactly. Would LOVE to take cash for infrastructure, regardless of which party it's coming from, but the idea is to get private developers to build new infa projects with significant savings in taxes. Not send money to state agencies to repair old existing rail.

Best case scenario we might get some more Assembly Square / Hynes Station Air Rights type private projects that just incidentally improve old stations / build infill.

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I'm becoming more in favor of privation of the T everyday

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The T provides endless amounts of privation...

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This is precisely the Baker plan, I think. :/ Run the system into the ground so much that people beg for privatization. The fact is, the T needs 1) more money and 2) the acumen to spend it well, and neither of those are inherent to either the public or private sector.

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He wants his slip back.

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