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These signs kill fascists
By adamg on Thu, 12/01/2016 - 9:09am
Greg Cook braved the rain for last night's anti-Bannon, anti-Nazi protest outside the Kennedy School in Harvard Square.
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Who are the fascists?
Who are the fascists?
Good question.
They're the ones that died by men and women serving under this 'graven image' that killed a lot more of them than some wet cardboard or a guitar with some words on it.
Oh please
You probably aren't even a veteran. Veterans are speaking out against your flag idolatry every day, too, if you bothered to read real news.
no comment
Next thing you'll know
We'll have a national philosopher's strike on our hands.
Could be a problem
They are in demand at tech firms.
Just a bunch of elitist
Just a bunch of elitist liberals whining in the rain because they lost. When identical protests were conducted 8 years ago, the groups were instantly labeled racists by the left. Where is the proof that the guy is a nazi? This is just typical liberal name calling. Are you guys going to blame the Russians next? Ohh wait.......
Yawnnnnn
"Elitist liberals", "whining", "typical liberal name calling".
If you don't think this guy has made anti-semitic statements or aligned himself with the alt-right, you've clearly never even tried to find the proof. Hint: do a google search.
Please
Provide a quote or video of said statements.
Google
Is a thing.
Googled
And the only actual anti-Semitic quote I could find was not a "quote" at all. It was a claim made by his ex-wife in a court proceeding that was later dropped when she didn't show up for court. Did you have better luck?
Breibart
Or you could just head over there and look for articles published when Bannon was an executive chair. Don't use the excuse that he didn't personally write those articles. He is a representative for that site.
Why is everything so "On/Off" with you guys?
No, we don't have photos of him in a white hood or nazi uniform.
We don't have audio of him saying the Jews run the world.
Nor do we have video of him giving a good 'ol "Seig Heil" toward Dear Orange Leader.
What we do have is a media empire run by Bannon that fosters and encourages those beliefs in other people. It gives them a 'safe space' if you will to spout all sorts of horrible things while banning commenters with opposing viewpoints regularly. A safe, looped circuit of anger and spite.
I anxiously await your mental gymnastics routine to explain it all away.
That's what I thought
So now you aren't ok with "safe spaces"? You have no evidence that Bannon is racist or anti-Semitic...but the website he runs sometimes posts articles from the extreme right, therefore he automatically is. Of course, if someone ran a website (huffington post?) that runs alt-left articles, that's entirely different. The mental gymnastics you perform to excuse your hypocrisy is laughable.
Funny how you people mocking "safe space" ...
Get all worked up over any and all perceived "failures" to properly worship a graven image known as a flag.
When you aren't whining about not being able to bar gay people from public life or trans people from peeing.
Go back to your "safe space" of a childishly simplified nostalgic and never-existed America bubble, please.
WTF is the "alt-left"?
WTF is the "alt-left"?
Look it's very simple:
Bannon proudly proclaimed that Breitbart News was "a platform for the alt-right".
The alt-right is unapologetically racist and anti-semitic.
It ain't rocket science.
Yeah, no
When your crazy-pants alt-right website regularly publishes crazy anti-Semitic shit, you don't get to throw your hands up in the air and say "Well, I must have been on the golf course every time that happened" when people point it out.
The only other possible reading of your completely insane defense of this wretched human being is "ownership of words can't be assigned to their purported authors," in which case let me respond with a hearty "go take a flying fuck at the moon, you mouth-breathing right-wing troll. You must have been the one subject in the study who chose the wire-frame mother. Come back when you finish your GED and prove that you have a basic grasp of how argumentation works."
Which would be an awful thing to say, but as we've just established, we don't know who was responsible for those hateful words. All opinions are equally valid. All statements are equally true. The universe is not right and wrong. We float in undifferentiated aether; "matter" and "energy" are fictions foisted upon you by scientists and the government. Even if Trump is naming the most vile human beings alive to positions of immense power, it's not very nice to say so.
"Crazy anti-Semitic shit"
Dude, provide a single article proving such, until then you're providing a biased opinion not a statement of fact.
Here's your single article
Dudebro! Trump Mouthpiece Breitbart News Publishes Anti-Semitic Attack on Prominent Columnist.
There's plenty more where that came from, but who am I to give you more than you asked for? If you do get curious, you can try this thing called Google. It's pretty good at finding things for you on the Web.
Just read the ACTUAL article
non very anti-Semitic. Nice try...
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/27/anne-applebaums-russian-style...
The writer of that Breitbart
The writer of that Breitbart article is Jewish and the son of a Polish resistance fighter. If you look more into him you'll find articles about his support for holocaust museums.
At some point ...
If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, then, yeah, it's a duck.
Avian species fluidity?
That is to say, it is, in fact, not a duck but rather whatever critter is the polar opposite of a duck. Yet somehow in their infinite wisdom, the enlightened thought leaders of our society have determined that it identifies as a duck, and therefore is a duck.
Next on the docket is the Jewish anti-Semite, to be followed by the black klansman (not the Dave Chapelle version), the female misogynist, and last, but not least, the gay homophobe. We won't need to bring up the Democratic Trump voter...some things are just so abhorent that to even speak of them would rend a tear in the fabric of Leftiedom itself.
Awfully smug there, pal
Self-hating Jews? Yeah, they exist. There are examples of all the other self haters you describe, but you can Google as well as I can.
No, Adam
You need to provide actual footage of Bannon burning a cross on the steps of a synagogue or it doesn't count, according to the people who saw a totally legitimate Obama Kenya birth certificate on eagle-tears.reaganpatriot.net
Yo, here's the thing
I could provide you smoking gun evidence to the claim, but you still wouldn't believe it. Don't you think that's problematic?
Here ya go:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/breitbarts-anti-semi...
And from the same article, before you give me the same bullshit I've heard elsewhere, "And no, it doesn’t matter that the author of the article is himself Jewish."
The problem, as I've said, is that you don't like it, or like hearing it. Too fucking bad. That's what we call cognitive dissonance.
It doesn't matter that Bannon might not have "said it". He allowed it to be published under his name. That matters, a lot.
Did you read the actual article?
Or just the Atlantic's pearl-clutching about its title?
Never mind, I know the answer.
Here's the TLDR version: the (Jewish) author believed Trump was going to be good for Jews and Israel, Hillary bad, and saw Kristol as a race-traitor for undermining Trump's candidacy with an attempt to recruit a third party challenge.
Provocative? Airing the dirty laundry in a gentile publication? Yeah. But how exactly anti-Semitic?
Here's my TL;DR answer
You have your head up your fucking ass.
You know you've won an argument with a liberal
when they start flinging shit likes apes in the trees.
Kristol was an asshole to begin with
Kristol was an idiot neo-con to begin with. However, to suggest that he's an embodiment of Jewish people was fucking stupid.
I'm not trying to prove you to be an idiot, Roman, but any further expansion of this argument pursued by you proves quite the opposite, so if you'd like, please continue responding.
You'd have a point
if any of that had anything to do with the content of that article. But it didn't.
Honestly...I'm starting to believe I really did miss out on something in my education. Where do they actually teach you to misread English like that? Or are people just born with this ability?
QED
You just fully demonstrated exactly what Adam was saying - plenty of evidence, but you put "what I BELIEVE" ahead of rational critical thinking as usual.
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Steve Bannon is not an anti-semite. If you were actually interested in the man's stance on Israel you'd do a little reading.
Here's a start.
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/why-i-support-steve-bannon-a...
Israel != Jewish
One is a country, the other is a religion.
You know nothing of anti-Semitism
It's perfectly possible and logical for anti-Semites to support Israel: The Israeli government is an American anti-Muslim's wet dream and, for the religiously minded, Israel is where the final battle will come and Jesus will descend from heaven.
But Israelis are not American Jews - American Jews are fair game and run the world and therefore must be eradicated, of course (even when they're named Mnuchin). And that final battle that will come during the End Times will be proceeded by the deaths of millions of Jews, except for the small number who accept Jesus. So there's that.
You could Google more on how anti-Semites love Israel, but I suspect you won't. So:
When Is Anti-Semitism Not Anti-Semitism? When It’s From a Trump-Loving ‘Friend’ of Israel.
Suddenly It’s Okay to Be pro-Israel and anti-Semitic.
How Steve Bannon and Breitbart News Can Be Pro-Israel — and Anti-Semitic at the Same Time.
The latter two are from Ha'aretz and the Forward, which are every bit as Jewish as that rightwing site you linked to.
Adam you should be ashamed
I don't subscribe to Haaretz so all I could see was that your link was to the opinion section. I did read that Forward piece and journalism it is decidedly not. The only quotes in there are from self-appointed experts who are doing nothing other than putting nasty words in other people's mouths. Only assertions about the "alt-right's" inferred stance on Jews with no sourcing, evidence, or anything resembling proof.
If you are trying to pass off these gossip pages as factual reporting then you should be ashamed as a journalist.
As a separate issue, if you are doing it to cry wolf on anti-Semitism then you should also be ashamed.
Hmm ...
I don't subscribe to Ha'aretz, either, but I saw the whole article. I guess they're just wonky like that.
But to your broader point, if you're arguing that "alt-right" is not a synonym for "neo-Nazi anti-Semites," nothing I point to is going to convince you, no amount of evidence will be enough for you until they start burning down synagogues and killing Jews. And by then it's going to be a bit late - and I suspect even then you won't believe it.
But that's my point: it's not evidence you're putting out there
it's the same opinion being re-cited and recycled.
The only two pieces of "evidence" that any of this is ever traceable to are
1. Allegations (allegations) from an ex-wife
2. An article with a provocative title written by a Jew and (ironically enough) predicated on concern about latent anti-Jewish sentiment on the left.
This is not evidence. It is accusation offered without proof.
If I put my logician hat on, it's also laziness: It's obvious that people holding up item 2 as the smoking gun either didn't read the article or didn't understand it because (like all good lefties) they saw a bad word and got stuck in an infinite loop.
I will agree with you on one point
That using a document from a contentious divorce proceeding by itself is pretty thin gruel for calling Steve Bannon an anti-semite.
So let's put that aside for now (along with the question of why we should believe him more than his ex-wife). He is (was?) CEO of Breitbart, a Web site that became the gathering place for alt-right neo-Nazis and anti-semites. Only really, even worse than that - because they also hate women, blacks, Muslims, etc, etc., pretty much everybody except good ol' white boys. Sure, Bannon himself may never have uttered a word against his BFFs, the Jews. But as CEO of a site that does so without doing anything about it, he's complicit in the spread of its particular brand of neo-hate (soothing words from head neo-Nazi Richie Spencer that Breitbart is just "alt light" notwithstanding). So, yeah, he's as much a neo-Nazi as his writers.
Adam buddy
Facts not in evidence.
You can't expect me to take your accusations seriously when the only thing you are capable of citing to back up your accusations are other people's accusations.
I just looked on the front page of Breitbart.
You know what I didn't see? Calls to hang the Jews.
You know what I did see? Jewish authors, reasonably reasonable opinions, and a comments section with about the normal level of trolling you'd see anywhere on the Atlantic or Slashdot or Uhub.
If your answer is that it's all in code words and dog whistles, then I've got a tiger-repelling rock to sell to you.
And just another anon whining about
"elitist liberals" protesting.
For those who don't get the headline's allusion
Especially for all you Bannon fans who seem oddly fascinated by UHub: This machine kills fascists.