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By cybah
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 8:17am
BikeGeek & Sock Puppet & Swirly are all correct. This even goes later into the 1970s, maybe into the early 80s.
My sister was born in 1973 and I was born in 1976 in Connecticut. However, our SSN's were not issued until 1985 because we didn't need it. Hers and mine are ONE digit off from each other (literally). But since by 1985 we lived in New Hampshire, my SSN reflects a NH number, not a Connecticut number. My father sent off the hospital-issued county raised seal copy to the SS Administration and got us cards without much of an issue. But then again, it was 1985 and state issued birth certificates were not required at the time.
To further prove that I was right.. in 1997, I lost all forms of ID due to a psychopath roommate who burned them all on the stove one day while I was at work (long fucked up story that contains sex, drugs,and rock n roll). This was including a raised seal copy of a birth certificate issued by the hospital in 1976.
My father sent me the hospital-issued county raised seal copy he had (we had two copies), but when I went to re-apply for a replacement SSN card, they would not take it. I was told by the Social Security Administration that I needed a State Issued birth certificate, and it had to be the full copy... identical to Obama's... and not the wallet card I ordered also with the full certificate from the State of Connecticut.
Which btw.. if you ever lose ALL YOUR ID.. it is a royal pain the in ass to prove that you are you. I had to have several letters from employers, friends, and what not notarized proving who I said I was, along with a signed affidavit. This whole process took MONTHS and had to be done in sequence. Birth Certificate First, then SSN, then Drivers License...
Of course this whole process took months... mean while, a few weeks after I started this process, I was pulled over in Kennesaw Georgia. (Yes hillybilly GA). I had no drivers license, except a valid one in NH which I had no actual ID for. I rattled off my SSN and the cop was able to pull up my NH license to see it was valid. My car was impounded and I had to pay a hefty fine (which I was able to get waived as my ID finally arrived so I could covert my valid NH to a GA license).
The cop NEVER once suspected me because my SSN was different than the state I was born in. Frankly the cop wouldn't have known anyways, since my SSN was issued from the state I had a drivers license in. Honestly I don't think the cop would have even known or cared what the prefix meant, as they only wanted the SSN to cross reference an existing drivers license. Nothing more, nothing less.
My point.. you're full of shit and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. And frankly are just talking out your ass. And if I didn't care so much about my privacy on here (to a degree), just to prove you wrong, I'd be more than happy to scan and upload EVERTHING I have surrounding this story because I saved all correspondence. (even though this was 1997, before the days of electronic filing online.. I had to use snail mail for everything). I really can prove you're full of shit on this one.
So stop talking conservative talking points. He's less than 30 days away from being out of office. Let it go.
SIL and BIL had a total loss house fire
By anon
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 9:33am
We had a day when members of the family went with them to various agencies to start to replace all their stuff, starting with birth certificates. I came along as I was not yet married into the family, but could notarize stuff because I wasn't technically related.
I've never heard the Obama SS issue.
By Pete Nice
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 1:53pm
So this means he got his at a CT SS office?
You mis-read
By cybah
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 3:57pm
His BIRTH Certificate was the same style as the one I had to present to the SSA for a new card.
I'm still wondering though.
By Pete Nice
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 6:20pm
Did Obama get his SS number at a CT office because before the system they have now, the numbers you got were from which office you ended up getting your card/number at.
Maybe he got it while at Columbia
By Waquiot
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 6:37pm
Perhaps on some break he was with a classmate from the Nutmeg State and decided to get his card. He has never posted a resume fom back when he was delivering the afternoon paper, so who knows when he needed it for the first time.
On the one hand, the SSN story could be a good one. On the other hand, there's no reason we should know anyone's Social Security Number. When I get cold callers asking for mine, I just make one up. Sometimes I only give 8 digits and say my parents got a low number for me.
It may have been a typo
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 10:33pm
SSNs were assigned according to the zip code where you lived when you applied.
In 1977, a lot of information was entered by hand. Hawaii was 96XXX and Connecticut was 06XXX. A clerk entering "96" could easily enter "06" by mistake. Thus Obama applied using his HI address, but was assigned a CT number due to the misrouting of the application.
This wasn't uncommon - someone I knew at MIT was given an Oregon SSN despite living in New Jersey (Oregon is 97XXX zip codes, New Jersey has 07XXX zip codes). The SSA wouldn't change it because it really doesn't matter anyway.
Apparently
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 4:18pm
And a small group of ill-intentioned people with no understanding of how the system worked forty or fifty years ago have lost their minds over it.
Way to prove me right
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 10:34am
You really have zero clue.
BTW, Reagan airport does not have customs for commercial flights, even if they did stamp passports for domestic travel.
Wrong on so many levels
By Bob Leponge
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 1:55pm
Back then, there was no such thing as "A social security number for a person born in Connecticut." Social security numbers corresponded to where the card was issued, not where the account holder was born.
I was born in Massachusetts. My social security number was issued in a different state, because that's where my grandparents lived, and they set up a bank account for me into which they deposited a gift on the occasion of my turning three or something, and that transaction needed a social security number.
(and, for whatever it's worth, this was not some trust fund thing, grandpa was a retired railway worker and it was a couple of hundred bucks.)
Uganda be kidding me
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 2:17pm
Of course that means you're a secret African!
Out of curiosity, did your
By Rob
Wed, 12/28/2016 - 9:19pm
Out of curiosity, did your grandfather have a social security number?
I remember being greatly puzzled a few years ago, doing some family tree research. I was online - the social security death index. Found death records and ss #s as expected for my grandmother and sister. Could not find any for my grandfather (whose lifetime did overlap the social security system).
My father (whom I would occasionally tease for being of an age to have a two-digit social security number) explained that Grandpa had worked for the post office (which I had known) which had an entirely separate pension system (at least during Grandpa's lifetime).
Were railroad workers in a similar situation?
Actually...
By Rob
Wed, 12/28/2016 - 8:18pm
Actually...
It was entirely normal for a long time for the "raised seal" to be the only acceptable document - raised seal original, no photocopies - for important identity matters. It was one of the most precious and guarded home/family documents - along with house deed, social security card, immigration/naturalization papers (if applicable), passport, and vaccination records. If it was lost or destroyed, you'd be making extensive communications with or pilgrimage to courthouse/hall of records where you were born to replace the original.
If people hadn't needed to replace it or use it for special id purposes recently, they wouldn't know how things had changed - that's why that was the way a lot of people still understood it at the time of the 2008 campaign, too.
It was Obama's own fault (or more likely his campaign staff's fault) for sending out a closeup photo of a modern printout and saying "Here's his birth certificate!" - leading reasonable people who hadn't put much credence to the birther question to say "WTF? A birth certificate from then wouldn't be like that!?" - and the Hawaii Secretary of State (or Registrar of Vital Statistics or whatever the official is called there) had to clarify "No, we keep the raised-seal original in our files. This form is what we certify and send out for situations like this."
If Obama's people had given the correct answer in the first place, they could have headed off some of the hassle - but they didn't. (The epitaph of many a politician from either side of the aisle).
Nope
By anon
Thu, 12/29/2016 - 10:33am
Anybody who has gotten a passport knows that "original" "looks like" birth certificates are not valid, and knows what the valid one looks like.
Many states don't take the fakey looking special fancy doctors signature ones anymore, nor do they issue them, either.
You would have to be living under a rock to not know better. What you describe is akin to people saying "where is his ORIGINAL driver's license - the handwritten paper one!".
So you believe
By Sock_Puppet
Mon, 12/26/2016 - 8:06pm
That authors write their own internal publishing industry marketing copy.
Okay.
I feel sorry for you. It must be hard to be so stupid.
Re: So you believe that authours write their own...
By O-FISH-L
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 1:04am
If I were a Harvard Law grad, shopping my book and paying for a marketing firm that "accidentally" said I was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia, even though I was born and raised in Hawaii, I hope I or a friend would catch on before 16 years. If not, I wouldn't blame my political opponents, honest historians and credible media for asking serious questions. Especially if some of my family in Kenya said they witnessed my birth there and I intentionally withheld my birth certificate until sued. Not to mention the very suspicious social security number for a person born in Connecticut but issued to Obama born in Hawaii with no ties to CT.
If authors don't write their own biographical info (they all do) then are the interns at the publishing company supposed to see a psychic or clairvoyant to make up the story? Did Obama not proof read his bio for a decade and a half? Of course Obama played the "born in Kenya" card until it wasn't convenient for the presidency. And the media blames the "internet" for its demise. Comical.
Would you
By ninjers
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 8:27pm
Would you care to comment on the dozens of inaccuracies pointed out at your above post, or are you going to continue to spout ignorance and rumor?
Also, since this seems to be such a hot issue with you, you must have directed a lot of outrage at Rafael Eduardo Cruz when he announced his run for POTUS since he shares identical birth characteristics as Obama, and I heard that someone witnessed him being born in Mexico, also I haven't seen his Birth Cert (long form) so I can't really be sure that he isn't an ILLEGAL MEXICAN STEALING MY JOBS AND/OR TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
One little quibble
By Waquiot
Wed, 12/28/2016 - 11:45am
If you are equating Cruz' and Obama's birth characteristics, you are for some bizarre reason conceding that he wasn't born in the US, as Ted was born in Calgary, where football is played on a 110 yard field, but only 3 downs.
Also, Ted's dad was Cuban, not Mexican.
You just lost that shred of respect
By Gary C
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 8:40am
Snopes is as non-political as you can possibly get. Simply because they get to the truth and publish it (and it happens to not agree with your fairy tales) does not in any way make them "far left". Jeesh!
All is relative
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 8:58am
Reality is far to the left of poor Fishy. But his fee-fees are just as valid, in our post-truth society.
There was an article in the
By anon
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 11:56am
There was an article in the NYT recently saying how everything that doesn't agree with the Conservative world view is now getting labeled either "liberal elitist propaganda" or "fake news". Even if it's non-partisan statements like "it's cold this winter"
Where were you born, fishy?
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 12/26/2016 - 7:00pm
Your parents?
Do you have paperwork showing that your immigrant ancestors were legal?
I have both my maternal grandma's and grandpa's legal documents
By anon
Mon, 12/26/2016 - 11:47pm
They both LEGALLY immigrated to the U.S., both were 'sponsored' by someone who vouched for them, and was responsible for financially supporting them if need be, but both had jobs. There was no welfare state and 'entitlements' when they LEGALLY immigrated to the U.S., so they never became a burden to the state. They also LEGALLY immigrated at a time when the U.S> economy grew at a much higher yearly rate than today, and when there was a need for semi and unskilled workers. In 2016-17, we (the U.S.) are a 'developed' post-industrial society with anemic job and GDP growth.
Tell all that to a Native American.
By anon
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 9:53am
You know, the people that your "legally here and not a burden blah blah" ancestors murdered, displaced, or profited from the murder and displacement.
So white you are!
It's almost as if at this
By SHABAZZ X
Mon, 12/26/2016 - 11:23pm
It's almost as if at this point, if there weren't a racist comment by our fishman here on anything political, I'd feel the need to call 911 for a welfare check.
Re: a racist comment by our fishman...
By O-FISH-L
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 1:09am
Please cite the racist comment. Quotes on Obama's "born in Kenya" biography that he either wrote or condoned, taken from far-left Snopes. His or his paid publicist's words, not mine. Your witness.
Far Left
By ninjers
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 8:30pm
Far Left snopes
Far Left Social Security Office (Big Government)
Far Left Dept Motor Vehicles (in on the conspiracy)
Corrupt MSM not properly reporting it
Middling Fox News is only truth, they have no agenda.
Editing error, typographical error, applied while at Columbia..
By O-FISH-L
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 11:44pm
So Obama's marketing team made an editing error for 16 years that he was born in Kenya? The Social Security office made a typographical error in entering a Connecticut birth social security number instead of Hawaiian? Or perhaps he waited to apply for a SSN until an adult student at Columbia in NYC while passing several Social Security offices in NY state to apply in CT? This while withholding his birth certificate until sued? Priceless.
This from a guy who accepts that Obama was born in Hawaii, it's just too late to care. He's almost done. The fact is, any rookie cop or arm-chair investigator would have to be suspicious of whether Obama is lying or merely promoted the lie when it was "cool to be Kenyan" before his presidential aspirations. As for SSN's corresponding to place of birth, I have relatives born long before Obama and their SSN's all correspond to a MA birth. Obama's connection to CT is specious at best. How does a Hawaiian kid get a CT SSN? Believe it or not, the only group that had SSN's that were not geographic were U.S. Railroad workers (series starting with 701-728). We had the chart at the booking desk, if a Hawaiian gave a CT SSN, he would be asked to explain. The media never dared ask Obama to explain.
http://socialsecuritynumerology.com/prefixes.php
Go away, Fraud
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 12/27/2016 - 11:49pm
Put a fork in yourself - you're done.
No, it doesn't matter where Obama was born
By anon
Wed, 12/28/2016 - 9:38am
It never did.
He was born to a US citizen. That makes him a US citizen. Period.
You don't
By Sock_Puppet
Wed, 12/28/2016 - 2:10pm
"I have relatives born long before Obama and their SSN's all correspond to a MA birth."
You don't, because their SSNs correspond to the numbers' location of issue, not the location of the individual's birth. The numbers for older folks were issued only once withholding became relevant. I doubt anyone in your family has ever gotten past the packie on the corner, so of course they're all MA numbers.
Many people have already pointed out this fact to you, with sources, so it's clear now that you are just a garden variety liar. But what should we expect from someone who pretends to be a cop online and boasts anonymously about things he never did? Sad.
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