Two Colombian sisters, one just 11, locked up for 36 hours at Logan

By adamg on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 12:43pm

The Globe reports their parents were only allowed to see them when the younger one was rushed to Mass. General with stomach pain. They were then transported back to Logan and kicked out of the country.

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thats what they get

By Scumquistador on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 1:00pm.

for coming to america

And That Makes You Proud, Does It?

By Elmer on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 1:12pm.

not particularly

By Scumquistador on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 1:19pm.

my parents are from south america & my (adopted) sister was born in colombia specifically

your whiny liberal outrage must be so confused right now though. turns out even people with ties to those that are being, really, victimized, can still shake their heads that people are even willing to attempt coming into this country at all anymore

here is a clue: not everybody, irrespective of background, is going to react the same to what is going on here. so yeah, if you're from south america (especially colombia) or the middle east and you're trying to come to this country now, frankly, expect this to happen.

That Happened.

By Jedidude on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 5:14pm.

I'm also the Queen of England.

haha

By Scumquistador on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 5:17pm.

ok, i've gone 'on record' here many times, when contextually appropriate, about my heritage.

you can elect to disbelieve me, but you're just sitting there intentionally deciding to be wrong :shrug:

You can't look at what people

By anony-mous on Sun, 04/02/2017 - 3:50pm.

You can't look at what people like Bannon, Miller, Gorka and Sessions believe and presume what Trump and his administration are doing with customs and ICE is just about public safety, it is also about privileging European Caucasians and discriminating against Muslims, Latinx, Black and LGTBQ.

No

By dmcboston on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 5:56pm.

Not gonna fall for your silly Jedi mind tricks. You may be a queen, but not of England. Maybe Liechtenstein though.

Why "especially Colombia"?

By anon on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 6:47pm.

Why "especially Colombia"?

Oh Elmer, you know scumq just wants to sound too-cool-for-school

By Jeff F on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 4:59pm.

Classic troll - just says whatever he thinks will get the biggest reaction. He never has any real insight, or even a consistent viewpoint. He's not even funny. Rarely if ever adds anything worthwhile to the conversation - a sad, lonely, not all that smart cynic who resents anyone who gives half a shit about anything - liberal, conservative, young, old, whatever.

Just ignore him.

hm

By Scumquistador on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 5:19pm.

take your own advice perhaps

and that is one other thing i frequently go 'on record' about here, is identifying as 'liberal' or 'conservative' and the damage it does to the political process and progressing society

so you're correct, i have a lot of irreverence for those two things

Lol k

By TommyJeff on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 5:47pm.

Careful, you'll cut yourself on that edge.

edgy

By Scumquistador on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 9:50pm.

you think it is edgy to acknowledge that a hugely partisan political system might just be detrimental to cultural and societal advancement?

if that is edgy then sure, i 100% am.

We All Know What They Are

By Elmer on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 7:16pm.

Of course, attempting to engage in a dialog is futile, but that doesn't mean their distasteful posts should go unchallenged. I don't mind hitting back with a sentence or two once in a while.
_{( and then, I usually get in the last word )}

An 11 year old

By Lee on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 1:32pm.

girl with a stomach ache held 36 hours without a lawyer and then sent away from her parents.
This is how we protect America?

yes

By Scumquistador on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 1:33pm.

by making it so unattractive that it becomes not worth terrorizing

Trump's Presidential Motto

By BostonDog on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 1:37pm.

If we can't fix it, we'll fix it so no one else can.

A little girl?

By Snuggles on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 4:36pm.

Poster child against inhumane policies?

You're Terrified By A Little Girl? — What A Whimpering Coward

By Elmer on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 2:35pm.

elmer, take your meds

By Scumquistador on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 3:49pm.

seriously.

Adorable!

By Elmer on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 3:49pm.

One can explain what the

By anon on Tue, 04/04/2017 - 8:31am.

One can explain what the government is trying to do without agreeing with the actions. Scum is pointing out a common mindset among the "fuck you, I got mine for the next decade until I die after which you'll all be fucked anyway" GOP. the whole "burn it down to fix it" mindset was all over the election - this is more of the same.

I don't think this had anything to do with terrorism

By Stevil on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 3:11pm.

Or the little girl who was an innocent victim.

Sounds like the older sister may have come here to work on a tourist visa.

Government isn't talking so we won't know from them, but there's definitely more to this story.

ahwaa now?

By anon on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 6:03pm.

how does it "sound like" that at all?

do you have information no one else does? do tell.

WBUR ARTICLE

By Stevil on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 9:47pm.

says the mom said border patrol claimed the older daughter told them that. Mom is denying it.

Um...it's a bit wierd, this story.

By dmcboston on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 1:40pm.

Don't you need a passport or visa or note from your teacher or something to get on an international flight? If not, well, what did they expect?
Here's the assumptions I'm going to make on the rather limited info in the globe article.
OK...are the parents here illegally? They didn't get picked up by INS. So, if they are legal (visa or whatever) then they should have been aware of the process to get the kids travel visas.
If they're illegal, then why weren't they detained? Not a lot of info here.
The kids were just here for a visit? Travel visa, no problem. I guess.

"“This is not like anything that I’ve seen before,” Yountz, who volunteered to provide legal assistance to the girls, said during an interview on Friday."

She's never seen anyone detained before?

" Given Laura Gomez’s age and medical condition, Yountz said immigration officials should have used “alternative practices” instead of detaining the sisters.
A process known as “deferred inspection” allows individuals to be allowed into the country, and allowed to return a few days later for questioning, she said."

Maybe 'alternative practices' have become more limited under the new administration.

you're making some assumptions too

By Scumquistador on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 1:43pm.

that the kids weren't already here to begin with and just visiting with family, and then came back

Problem here is the globe

By dmcboston on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 5:47pm.

The article contains little information. So, we're stuck 'reading between the lines', never the first choice for finding the facts. My assumption about their itinerary came from the article, "Dayana Gomez, 20, and Laura Gomez, 11, traveled to Massachusetts on Wednesday to visit their mother and stepfather."

Implication is that they, well, traveled to Massachusetts on Wednesday to visit their mother and stepfather.

Their lawyer is well versed in the field, but it looks like the game is changing.

Not sure it works the way you think it does

By lbb on Mon, 04/03/2017 - 10:15am.

Don't you need a passport or visa or note from your teacher or something to get on an international flight?

You do, yes, but depending on where you're coming from and where you're going to, you may need other document(s) as well. I've traveled to about ten different countries, with varying requirements, and I honestly can't remember at what point visas get checked -- definitely on ingress, but I'm not sure they do when leaving the country. I've flown through Frankfurt a bunch of times, for example, but never when I was going TO Germany. So how would they know what to check, or whether it was valid even if they did check it?

The only question I would have

By Waquiot on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 1:45pm.

Did they have valid visas to enter the US?

Not necessarily relevant

By Bob Leponge on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 2:05pm.

Citizens of many countries do not require visas to enter the US:

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visa-waiver-program.html

Somewhere it was said that these kids had Spanish citizenship, meaning no visa needed.

Very relevant

By Waquiot on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 3:24pm.

The only info we have for certain is that they were coming from Columbia, whose citizens are required to have visas in advance to enter the United States.

Maybe they were dual nationals of Spain and Columbia but presented the wrong passports or perhaps forgot to bring their Spanish passports with them. Or maybe they are merely Columbian nationals. Maybe they didn't have the proper visas, in which case they can be turned around and sent home.

My wife was once barred entry to the United States. She was born in the United States, as were her parents, and her genealogy goes back to colonial America. Why wasn't she allowed to enter the US? She made a quick trip to Canada and didn't bring her passport.

colombia

By Scumquistador on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 4:15pm.

they are actually very touchy if you misspell their country

Who cares...

By dmcboston on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 5:52pm.

...it's not like they're from Liechtenstein.

Dammit

By Waquiot on Sun, 04/02/2017 - 7:09pm.

I could have used the article as a spelling guide, too.

I'm blaming my iPad. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Ridiculous

By G-Dub on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 2:22pm.

Because 11 year olds from Colombia fit the terrorist profile... This is just absurd, young children should be able to visit their mother.

Tragic

By Refugee on Sun, 04/02/2017 - 7:56pm.

Because 11 year olds from Colombia fit the drug-mule profile. 36 hours is long enough to get a person to poop out something swallowed.

Citations needed

By anon on Mon, 04/03/2017 - 10:51am.

Citations needed

The 11 year old poses an existential threat to other

By bulgingbuick on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 2:44pm.

11 year old girls like Sheriff Hodgson.

Bad Journalism

By bannedinboston on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 3:13pm.

The article provides bare facts, no context, and seems to exist only to encourage speculation. It's not much more than clickbait and I regret being taken in.

this could have something to do with it

By anon on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 3:19pm.

http://colombiareports.com/trump-administration-tightens-visa-requiremen...

Maybe something came out in the interview, which the Globe has failed to report.

Except

By Waquiot on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 4:10pm.

The more recent version of that executive order said that all approved visas were okay (which was one of the big sticking points of the enforcement of the earlier EO.)

This so much. Let them do

By Candy on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 3:27pm.

This so much. Let them do their jobs. Journalists could do us all a favor by doing theirs better.

Adam this post seems to lack

By anon on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 7:04pm.

Adam this post seems to lack some very important details. Maybe wait until further details arise before jumping the Trumpland gun.

Er ...

By adamg on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 9:37pm.

Did you see "Trumpland" in the headline?

Hopefully they spread the word when they get home

By O-FISH-L on Sat, 04/01/2017 - 11:35pm.

Mass. General for a bellyache and quickly returned to Logan. Who is paying for that? God Bless our ICE officers and Boston EMS. Colombia has long been a source of U.S. drug activity so hopefully these migrants spread the word at home. There's a new President. If only one life is saved, we've won. Deport!

I can't view the Globe story since, like thousands of others, I canceled after the fake, anti-Trump, Globe front page last year. Will any of our media "critics' ask the Globe how many subscribers left that day? When I called the Globe's fake "617" Dorchester number to cancel, after a long time on hold, a lovely woman in Manila, Philippines, answered and told me "many, many" had canceled that day. It would seem to be a news story, especially with the Globe already failing and President Trump getting well over a million votes here, but crickets from the dutiful media. Nothing to see here.

"If Only One Life Is Saved" — Whose Life?

By Elmer on Sun, 04/02/2017 - 5:17am.

That's a pretty big if, and you're basing it on the baseless notion that if these children aren't swiftly deported, people will die — presumably people in your own community that look and think like you.

What if, instead of only one life being saved, no lives at all are saved by deporting the family? — That is, no lives in your own community were saved, because nobody there was going to die if the family wasn't deported.

And then, what if, after being deported to Colombia, the children and their parents are murdered by the violent gangs they sought refuge from, when they tried to immigrate to the United States?

How many lives would you credit ICE for saving then? If their actions cause the loss of four innocent lives in Colombia, do you score that as four lives "saved" in your own community? Does it make you feel like you've "won"? Do you actually think your god would approve of it?

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Positively disgusting!

By mplo on Tue, 04/04/2017 - 1:46am.

Deporting these two sisters is vicious. .

Two Colombian sisters, one just 11, locked up for 36 hours at Logan

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