Orioles player says he was pelted with peanuts, racial taunts at Fenway

Remember Boston is 50% black, Hispanic, Asian, Latino..etc. when a racial incident takes place in boston in 2017 its usually ass clowns not from Boston.

- An Actual Boston Resident

ok

By Scumquistador
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:05am

you're full of shit, as always

- an actual boston resident, and not one that was imported here from some shit kicker mud paradise in the middle of the country somewhere

how?

By Formerly-SoBo-Yuppie
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:43am

My comment about the "50%" is true and my comment about non-Boston residents coming into the city and being responsible for the racist crap is also true.

if you reallylived in Boston you would know.

So you check people's ID's to

By anon
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 1:47pm

So you check people's ID's to see where they are coming from?

the space between most racist and not racist

By anon
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 4:37pm

'Most racist' is arguable; segregated, most income unequal, most wealth unequal, is not.

Rhetorical racism is a measure of public tolerance for expressions of racist attitudes. It is not a good sign. It signals consent and desire for social stratification by race, ethnicity, religion or any other difference. It's an insult, it's a privilege, and it makes the bully feel superior.

Kirk Minihane of WEEI’s Kirk & Callahan lambasted the mayor on Monday’s show, calling Walsh a “pandering fool” for failing to defend his city against Che’s characterization, which he called “made-up.”

Che's superlative-- most racist city-- is arguable but honestly both sides of the argument are losers. Being the most racist city or a racist city isn't a big distinction in my book, it's hair splitting.

Take rhetorical racism as a indicator of social tolerance of racist attitudes and put it aside. The real challenge Boston faces is institutional barriers to equity in areas like education and job opportunities. It also means more aggressively countering corporate abuse and business models that prey on low wealth Bostonians. It means recognizing the risks of relying on out of school suspensions and the affect on students pushed out of charter schools. It means a willingness to fund our public schools as well the highly rated public schools in neighboring suburbs.

Are their elements of Boston that your recognize as rhetorical or institutional racism? What are they?

So is Minihane a real or rhtorichal

By bulgingbuick
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 4:52pm

dick?

k

By Scumquistador
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 3:12pm

what you say about boston being 50% non-white is true

however what you ignore is that boston is one of the most segregated cities in the country and guess what people don't statistically live in tourist areas in boston

I beg to differ. Ever live in

By anon
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:03pm

I beg to differ. Ever live in Chicago? I did for abt 8 years. It's pretty similar to Boston in terms of neighborhoods.
Btw, the Orioles player got a standing ovation at Fenway tonight.

It's easy to remember

By JDawg
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 1:02pm

shameful acts of systematic racism by the Boston Red Sox. Owner Tom Yawkey was a known bigot, and subsequently the Sox were the last team to integrate 12 years after Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier.

It must also be conceded that this was not an isolated issue. There was the busing mayhem in the 70's and plenty of other shameful acts.

However, let us not be so quick to remember these transgressions that we forget the times when Boston was proudly unafraid of race.

While Yawkey and his policies brought shame to the Sox, across town, Red Auerbach was the complete opposite. The Celtics, under Red, were the first team to draft a black player, the first team to have an all black starting 5, and the first team of any major U.S. sport, to employ a black head coach.

We are at the terminus of the underground railroad. A city based on ideals. We are the cradle of U.S. democracy, and a bastion of liberalism.

I don't disagree that Boston has endured numerous racial missteps and embarrassments. We must remember that there are achievements and advancements that we must be proud of as well.

Go forth. Love each other. Be neighbours. Be an example. When critical instances pop up like the racism at Fenway, speak against it. The perpetrator will be punished, and we can call ourselves proud once again.

Love conquers hate!

Even the Bruins had a black

By Chris77
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 1:51pm

Even the Bruins had a black player, Willie O'Ree, before the Red Sox.

Dear So Bo Yuppie

By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 6:14pm

So that guy who can frequently be found near the Broadway T Stop and walks around with his shirt off and his Massive Swastika Tattoo showing commutes from New Hampshire just to bug you?

Okay.

I'll see your supposed Southie Nazi...

By anon
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 12:02am

And raise you a real William Lloyd Garrison.

I take the #9 bus every day. Never seen a tatted up Nazi.

And sorry, Boston was the cradle of abolitionism as much as it was the cradle of liberty. Anyone who knows their history knows Boston isn't the most racist city anywhere, sorry Michael Che.

And I have anecdotes too-
And bona fides-
Went to public schools graduating in 86. Had black friends in school and often had to fight when caught alone by black kids I didn't know.
Shit we fought the next corner back then.

Boston is plenty racist, like all of the US and I'd say the world.

Walk by the Broadway T at least twice a day...

By Formerly-SoBo-Yuppie
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 8:36am

...never seen him.

I agree with everything you post here...this may be the first time that i don't!

Other people commenting here have said the same thing I have been saying....these racist a-holes (usually sports fans) come from the burbs and new hampshire. they are not actual boston residents.

that is the point i am trying to make. maybe people have different views on what a "actual boston resident" is. it's simple; someone that lives within city limits. that's it.

if your granny and ma grew up in dorchester and now you all live in weymouth. you are not bostonians.

- An Actual Boston Resident

Looking forward to hearing

By Michael
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:27am

...about the Red Sox going before the city licensing board with the threat of having to suspend beer sales for a few home games

It is

By Kathode
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:25am

pretty much always a result of alcohol and male aggression.

Someone who is a racist awhole

By whyaduck
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 2:19pm

is a racist a-hole whether sober and after a few drinks, hokey? And what is up with the "male aggression" thing? There are plenty of females who rank right up there with the N word calling, peanut bag chucking jerk(s) at this game.

I've been sitting

By Kathode
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 5:06pm

in the bleachers for 30+ years. Fighting, as well as racist and homophobic insult hurling is almost entirely done by males.

Why?

By Kaz
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 1:51pm

Red Sox security handled all the related ejections and BPD wasn't called or asked to assist and evidently the inspectors weren't in CF at the time to witness it, so no violation was filed with the licensing board.

I mean, not every stupid thing that happens at every bar every night gets a bar put up in front of the licensing board either. Just the things that get caught or require BPD involvement.

Except that BPD has since been called in to "investigate"

By roadman
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 10:37am

these incidents. If they determine that alcohol played a factor, then it's possible that Sox management could be hauled before the Licensing Board to explain themselves.

Thanks, Trump.

By oddjob60
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:32am

Thanks, Trump.

sorry

By Scumquistador
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:47am

you piece of garbage.

pretending like this behavior & mentality is new ignores literal hundreds of years of the same exact shit going on.

http://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/index.ssf/2... massachusetts baseball fans, pre trump, doing more of the same? shocking

trump isn't helping the situation but what makes it even worse are people whining and crying about how he is the devil.

just lmao that you think trump is to blame for racism happening in boston, at fenway, of all places

sad!

E: sorry, i shouldn't have called you garbage. i should have said your post should be hauled away, as garbage. i will leave it in there so that i may be shamed appropriately for my unnecessary assault on your honor

2 thngs

By anon
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 9:19am

Acts of overt racism have definitely increased in the Trump era. Trump and his staft are overt racists and he enables and emboldens others.
And I disagree with you. Trump is the devil.

nope

By Scumquistador
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:03am

you should be considerably more concerned about the millions of people that put a person like that into office, as well as the lack of any viable candidate that was able to beat him.

trump is a symptom of something far more sinister than his comic book bullshit

Nope/nope

By anon
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:15am

There was a viable candidate, and she got 2.9 million more votes than Trump.

Hillary is the greatest candidate of all time

By Doug1001
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 1:44pm

Full of integrity, extremely likable, etc. Let's impeach the bastard.

If we get a rally going, definitely count me in.

Than how come she could not win?

By whyaduck
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 2:21pm

n/t

Liberals all say she's the best - so she must be....

By Doug1001
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 6:13pm

If we all band together and work to impeach Trump, we can then hold a do-over election since we all know Russia interfered......then Hillary will be in office.

It's a great plan.

The majority of voters in the 2016 election

By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 6:19pm

Maybe they didn't think she was the best, but they thought she was the best for the job.

Had she lost the popular vote and won the electoral mirage, there would be loosely organized shooting of guns at everything to be sure.

Let's switch to the popular vote..

By Doug1001
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:16pm

NY and CA liberals know best - I'd prefer they pick the President for us going forward.

We can make signs about this at the next rally....let's do it.

She did win

By BostonDog
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 6:18pm

More Americans wanted her as president then wanted Trump.

Trump won because we live in a backwards country where the size of your plot of land determines how much your vote is worth.

Trump won because the larger landowners wanted him, not because he received the most amount of votes.

Did they both win?

By Doug1001
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 7:42pm

You said she won and also said that Trump won... I'm so confused now...

Does not matter.

By whyaduck
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 2:21pm

She and her team did not convince enough people to vote for her over Trump. She lost.

Actually she did

By Scauma
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 3:22pm

Unless you believe 3 million illegals voted. The reality is republicans can never win the majority again but win the election every time thanks to the racists in middle america.

Illegals did vote....

By Doug1001
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:18pm

I don't know if the number is 3 million, but it's not zero either.

Prove it.

By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:11pm

Prove it.

Thoughts? Probably just a coincidence

By Doug1001
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:24pm

Nothing to see here.......

"The Detroit News found voting scanning machines at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts — 37 percent — tabulated more ballots than the number of actual voters counted in the poll books.

“There’s always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn’t expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn’t normal,” Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, told the paper."

Fake news

By Scauma
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 2:26pm

And alternative facts

Why don't you show me some real facts?

By Doug1001
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 5:03pm

Where are the quotes/links in your reply that refute this? You must have hit "save" too quickly....feel free to "edit" your reply and put some in there.

Otherwise, GTFOH.

Thanks

[citations needed]

By anon
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 3:29pm

[citations needed]

[elementary tip if quotes are provided instead of citations]

By Doug1001
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 5:19pm

You can enter the entire quote or part of it into google and it'll find the article for you. I was going to cite the article, but I want you to try along at home.

Let me know how it goes.

Look up the history of "more votes than voters"

By anon
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 3:43pm

You will find that this is almost exclusively a Republican phenomenon.

Just you saying it is so does not make it so.

Maybe we should all vote with plywood ballots?

Great point - Detroit is a known Republican stronghold...

By Doug1001
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 5:17pm

On the flipside, your comment that the "more votes than voters" phenomenon was almost exclusively a Republican thing, and therefore it most likely happened the same way in this instance, does not make it so either...did you know that?

I provided one example by the way - use google to find more....although, now we know that any voting irregularities are the work of Republicans.

You should be a detective on the side (if it's not your full time job already).

Maybe we should all vote with

By roadman
Wed, 05/03/2017 - 7:02pm

Maybe we should all vote with plywood ballots?

Why? Is Doug Bennett running for (insert name of ANY low level local office here) again?

k

By Scumquistador
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 2:44pm

she lost an election to the reality tv star inbred son of oompaloompas

she was immensely qualified but a terrible candidate for an election

Somethings never change in

By anon
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 11:10am

Somethings never change in Dirty Old Boston.

Had Andrew Jackson not died the Yankees would never

By bulgingbuick
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 1:16pm

have won and we could have avoided the Babe Ruth trade.

but all the

By Marco
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:51am

"Thanks Obama" comments of the last eight years for anything gone wrong were fine though right? I'm sure you typed it out countless times when you were sad that the gays got some equal rights or some such nonsense.
Also LOCK HER UP cuz #Bengazi!!!!111!!!

That Trump unleased the silent bigotry of many white Americans is no secret. Yes, these types of things happened before, as always, but there are definitely people emboldened by the fact that their glorious bigot leader was elected to the highest office in the land, so now their bigotry is ok too. Take my boss for instance, who now all of a sudden has no issue insulting immigrants while I, an immigrant, am standing right there. Never happened before Trump. While that's anecdotal evidence only there are tons of similar stories out there.
Between the dems, Independents, and a whole swath of Republicans, MOST of the country dislikes the guy, so you're gonna have to deal with people giving him shit for the next 4 years. Be prepared.

? thanks obama?

By Scumquistador
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 2:55pm

why do you bring that up like i care lmao

i'm a pretty staunch supporter & fan of president obama

like yeah, that was stupid and petty too, i didnt realize i had to make a list of stupid and petty shit when i was talking about other stupid and petty shit

This was a Boston standard

By anon
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 11:11am

This was a Boston standard long before Mr. Trump.

I've heard plenty of people throw out slurs.......

By Pete Nice
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:41am

But I've never, ever seen anyone hurl them out at a sporting event in Boston (out loud where others can hear you), especially the last few years where cell phone cameras will usually put people on blast for saying stupid things and doing stupid stuff.

I'm wondering if these slurs were before or after the game?

(I've worked and gone to about 15-25 Red Sox games a year)

well pete

By Scumquistador
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:46am

slurs no, i haven't heard them explicitly shouted at games either, but you'll hear plenty of white suburbanites talking about ~*reasons*~ they avoided the orange line, none of which have to do with valid reasons one should avoid the orange line lmao

Scum, I've heard it all.....

By Pete Nice
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:48am

I'm talking about people yelling slurs out in front of other people that have cell phones. (Not your average veiled racism of your average white Bostontonian.)

I should say that sounds like a lot of ejections for a Red Sox game, so it may have been bad out in the bleachers, but I still can't picture it.

Bostonian, in context

By Scauma
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 8:57am

I agree most Bostonians tend to not be so blatant but there are a lot of folks from surrounding towns who aren't as liberal.

Don't know how far you go back, Pete

By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 9:52am

In the late 1980s, slurs thrown around the bleachers and out into the bullpen or field were as much a part of the noise as the hot dog vendors and inflatable sexdoll volleyball.

Never say never. But the park cracked down in the 90s and in the 2000s, you no longer have all the high school kids skipping their last class or two and driving in to get cheap bleacher tickets.

Yea I'm talking about the last 10 (maybe even 20 years Swirly...

By Pete Nice
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:11am

I was younger then and didn't go to as many games.

Well, sure

By erik g
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 9:03am

For one, the Orange Line goes nowhere near Fenway, so you'd have to change at DTX and walk to the Green Line underground, which is a huge pain in the ass but less so than going all the way to Haymarket, and--

Oh. ~*reasons*~ Indeed.

Back Bay and Mass Ave

By anon
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 9:17am

I regularly use either Back Bay or Mass Ave stations to go to and from Fenway Park. It's only a 10-15 minute walk. The green line is a mess on game day.

Or Ruggles

By Ron Newman
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 2:50pm

About the same length walk as to Mass Ave station, and much closer than Back Bay station. The Red Sox ran shuttle buses to Ruggles before and after games for a few years, but I don't think they do it anymore.

I have

By Formerly-SoBo-Yuppie
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 9:06am

But I've never, ever seen anyone hurl them out at a sporting event in Boston (out loud where others can hear you)

I have several times. go to a bruins game where the opponent has a black player.

Go Sens, Go Habs.

You are a fraud and a troll SoBO yuppie.

By Pete Nice
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 9:39am

And no, actually Bruins fans are probably the best behaved out of the major sports. It's probably your family members/friends making those slurs and was only you hearing them.

I work and go do about 10 of those games too and have never even heard fans say that to one another.

Lying Troll.

Go ask...

By Formerly-SoBo-Yuppie
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 10:14am

Joel Ward or PK Subban.

You've done literally zero research on those subjects...

By Doug1001
Thu, 05/04/2017 - 2:39am

Although that goes along with everything you've ever posted, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Troll away, weirdo.

You are a troll and a fraud SoBO yuppie.

By dmcboston
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 11:08am

"I have several times. go to a bruins game where the opponent has a black player."

Bullshit, sobo.
Bruins brought up Willie O'Ree in 1958, he played 40 or so games in 1961. Oh, fun fact...he was almost blind in one eye the whole time.

Our dislike for PK Subban is because he's PK Subban.

Malcolm had a rough start and is back in Providence.

But you already knew all this, right?

Here's the problem

By Kaz
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 2:02pm

Yes, we hate PK Subban because he's PK Subban. But how do we get at him? How do we 7th man him? He's a professional and is used to hearing all sorts of things his mother has done (allegedly). So, what else can we say about him that might get under his skin?

Eureka!

These days, the majority of morons will make racist comments, not because they actually have any particular feelings about someone else's race...but because it's a mean and hurtful thing to say and it's the fastest way to verbally knee a person in the crotch. If Adam Jones had just lost a newborn son, you can bet that the moron in CF last night would have been making dead baby jokes as easily as using the N-word.

There's probably a discussion to be had over whether someone using a racial epithet purely to get a rise and not because they actually believe what they're saying is still themselves racist in some way or an enabler of racism or however else you want to frame them. Any way you slice it, they're a shit person. But at a sporting event these days, you're much less likely to find a racist and more likely to find someone using racial animosity purely for vulgarity and antagonism and not in the old-school way that Boston has never quite fully shaken the identity of.

Good point Kaz....

By Pete Nice
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 2:29pm

Plus these were Twitter rants (most from non Bostonians from what I recall), which further proves that So-Bo is a lying sack of $@@$.

the twitter thing

By Scumquistador
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 4:23pm

was absolutely a sack of BS

I'm a Boston cop as well and

By anon
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 9:26am

I'm a Boston cop as well and have worked countless Sox games throughout the years. I usually like to hang out in the bleachers because people are more likely to approach me after a couple beers, and I usually enjoy speaking with the crowd.

In all my years I have never heard any racism whatsoever directed at me or the players. I'm a minority myself.

This honesty caught me by complete surprise. Doesn't meant it didn't happen, but still extremely surprising.

People don't act up in front

By Scauma
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 9:41am

People don't act up in front of cops.

lol probably largely true

By Scumquistador
Tue, 05/02/2017 - 11:34am

but not so for the guy that decided to get reaaallll aggressive with me and try to use my bicycle as target practice a couple weekends ago on rt 28. i was ready to throw down but a cop happened to be right there and nailed the guy.

i exercised both my legs & better judgement and made my exit

but damn did it feel like a great way to cap a 40 mile ride watching somebody get immediately pulled over for being a shitty deranged driver

Orioles player says he was pelted with peanuts, racial taunts at Fenway

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