Southie

No clothes store at K and 4th, only Fire Station, a Pub, bakery and housing. Maybe your thinking of K and Broadway. Its called Jones Department Store.

I'm writing a paper about Boston English. Does Southie have its own words or expressions that are different, say, from Dorchester, or other neighborhoods?

I was born and raised in southie. I miss all the people who use to live here. Wish they would all come back those were the days.

I just finished reading "All Souls", and it opened my Irish Eyes. I think everyone in Southie should read the book and learn from the experiences of those that lived there before you were a glint in your mothers eyes, and those that died long before they should have!

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The non-Irish can say what they will about Southie- and I'll admit that it has its negative sides-- but Southie represents the last true Irish neighborhood in the United States. Every irishman in the country aware of his heritage knows that the Irish experience in America flows through NYC and Boston, and southie is the only remnant of the old times. Non-irish-- if you don't like Southie, stay out of Southie. The irish in america love southie.

I went to school with a bunch of Southie kids and some are decent kids but for the most part you all think and act like your black, so u shouldn't be talking about Irish pride or any of that. Southie used to be a good place when the kids acted white and had true pride. Now i see a bunch of trash with straight brimmed hats running around listening to rap and acting like gangsters. Your neighborhood should go back to the way it was.

Southie is and always will be in my heart, I grew up in Southie from Old Harbor projects to City Point!..I'm not Irish, but Native American...Proud of it...Happy to be from Southie!!

"When are you coming to visit Southie? I will have a drink for you this Sunday. "Cheers, to Patti Paul, the only Mic-Mac friend I know who is Irish at heart and can drink with the best of us" - Wait a minute - you are the only mic-mac friend I have. Anyways, write me back - I love you.,"Danielle O'Brien...You See, everyone doesn't have to be Irish!!!...PaTTi`23

i am an irish catholic girl, born and raised in the boston area, and i have mixed feelings about southie. i am SOOOO PROUD to be irish, its such a huge part of my identity, and its great that my irish brothers and sisters are holding it together down there (im just north of boston, stuck in the suburbs). i read All Souls by Michael Patrick MacDonald, though, and it changed my views, because even though sticking together and having such brilliant irish pride is a beautiful thing, the drugs and gangs only tear us apart. its a shame to see good catholic boys strung out on drugs when they oughta be in school or out supporting their families; thats how the irish do it, and something went wrong in southie if proud irish families are torn down by crime and hate. love for the irish, and for what southie could be, but i dont want gangsters messing up my Little Ireland in south boston.

anyone know a kid from southie name ryan curtis

I'm an irishman from Braintree, but my family's all from Dot, and i gotta say i know a lot of good Southie kids but they should stop tryin to be black.

Hey, Mary please getta a grip. Southie is no more homophobic than the resta the country. Matta a fact, they ahr less homophobic than say Walla Walla, WA.My grandmother was born in Rock Chapel, Cork, Ireland and she had a thing about gay people. She told us that there wasn't any of those kind of people in Ireland. I guess she was wrong.

everyone needs a dose of southie...best place I've experainced yet throughout Boston. No one fake and uptight over there, 100% real soul and very down to earth.I come from NY, but I've adapted well right into Southie's armsone luv

hey i read the Book all souls by Michael Patrick MacDonald....dude i would like to live there..im 100% irish and i like how everyone got along and stood up for eachother..so the people writing shit in here are just jealous they cant live there

First of all I'm from southie and do luv it, but I don't like seein all you ganstas out there that think your black. U can listen to rap but do'nt go rappin about bein Irish or nothin cuz that just doesn't make make sense. Like a lot of other people on this page have said, most of you have money and live in good homes. Don't be afraid to be real. No offense but I really don't like kids who get all cocky and think there tough cuz they can act black. And don't get me wrong Southie is my home and i give it props but there's alot ofmisguided people in it.

I was in boston this past nov. southie was great and every irish and bostoian I met were very welcoming and helpful.IHAD A GREAT TIME AND WILL GO ASAP. The only people that rude were black who grew up there not immigrants.

To my homies.yo dont let outsiders violate our block and what not. the outsiders are the yuppies and anyone who is not irish. R.I.P liam

Hey im Irish American lookin to live in southie.How much is it for a apt in southie.

yo yall cant see what there doin they trying to get rid of are community to make it a middle class one so that means for us poor irish we will become home less juss like what new york did to hell's kitchen a irish lower class it's cause where white and boston dont want to look racist if they do it to a black or latin one.

I'm looking to move to southie... stuck in the suburbs for now, sick of this yuppie crap I was raised into... Half-Irish... any advice?

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Excuse me. Not all of us were born with a golden spoon in our mouths or handed everything to us by our Mommy's and Daddy's. I am a college educated student of an Ivy League school of Boston and earned my way there by hard work, a full time job since the age of 16, and have always staying true to my native home. There is nothing wrong with Dorchester, Southie, or any of the other neighboring towns around us. Grant it, we all have our feuds and town rivalries as you all do out there. Also, just to clarify, not all of us are Irish, though many are, and those who actually care about "street credit" are the ones who need to learn how to grow up. (And Southie is not the only place in which that exists.) How about you wake up to America and the issues that surround what is going on in our world today because of hatred, biggotry, and poverty. You should use some of your Connecticut money out of your "village" home, with your beamer in your driveway and golden retriever in your front yard which you pay others to mow, and put it to good use such as the education of this country. Thank you. Originally from Dorchester and proud of it!

i was born and raised in southie and i love it here to death but this town is dying away and so are the people. there is nothing to be proud of anymore and there is nothing to be loyal to. why don't all you kids go to school and get a job and have something to truly be proud of.

Ok I've lived in southie my entire life and listenin to all of these kind of makes me laugh. i recently had to move and it's killin me all I want to do is go home! Someone commented on how all Irish Americans think they are God's gift and how we're all white trash umm yea i don't think so! Being an Irish American i can say one thing I'm from American unlike this guy who says that he just grew up in Boston sorry but then you're not really a bostonian. give me a break we are absolutely not white trash! Southie kicks ass however!

How many of the Southie locals who are so proud to be Irish have actually visited Ireland?

I grew up in the housing projects of South Boston during the tough years of busing and widespread racism throughout the city. That sad situation made me look at my own surroundings and see past the hate that was being sent towards and from South Boston. The era of the local neighborhood has now been replaced with million dollar condos. Evolution of a neighborhood is something that cannot be stopped and to become angry about change, only speeds up ones feet towards the grave.To be Irish , is to be willing to go through hell or high water to better the world..anyone remember the book "How the Irish saved Civilization" by Thomas Cahill? read it....Dig down deep when judged...dont hate others and most important..dont hate yourselves....Southie may change and become another Back Bay....but....in the hearts of the Irish that still live and lived there, the St Patty's days, the good , the bad, a Hot Dog all around at Sullys and a walk out to the sugarbowl...that is where the spirit of the Irish live....the name calling. the insults, all are such wastes of time. Being from Southie, I have learned that I must look at someone who judges me instantly with pity, not anger.......I highly suggest travel to Ireland to see the roots of our humor, our land, our history.peace to you all......poi.

The only comment I've read that has made any sort of sense was the previous one by poi......my sentiments exactly. I grew up in the lower end and now live up the point. Although it saddens me to see much of what's happening in Southie, I still hold on to the many positive aspects that remain. Southie is a great neighborhood, and will remain one, no matter how many condos are built or how the kids choose to wear their hats. Ignorance, as always, is our only enemy. Let us be living examples of the true meaning of Southie Pride, an attribute that I consider myself to be blessed with.

im from ireland i live in dublin and i do be so proud when people that r only half irish say they are proud!!im only 15 and i am very proud to say im irish!!you cant beat the irish!!!IRELAND IRELAND IRELAND.

Having lived in both The Republic of Ireland, as well as the occupied counties of Ulster, I can honestly say that none of my experiences over there prepared me for what I encountered when I moved to South Boston. What swill. What trash. How dare you call yourself Irish? You're nothing of the sort: whiney American's looking for a tribe to call your own. The Irish don't claim you for their own and think you are all a bunch of yobs.Want to save your neigbourhoods and ways of life? Get an education. Get a decent job. Earn your right to stay in your neigbourhood(s) by playing the game. Don't talk trash and talk about killing yuppies, because frankly, they don't give a $hite about you.

Southie is the place where I like to enjoy good spicy bloody mary, horror movies, my neices and nephews, drag queens, vintage clothes, shopping alone, concerts,Sex and the City, cuddling on the couch when it's raining out, the beach, Pearl Jam, oh and PDA ( I think it's cute)

Southie is the greatest place in the world. Everyone there is sarcastic during thunderstorms, and that turns me on!

i hate people that dont know anything about sports and then recite word forword what was written in the herald but they will mispronounce someonesname.it's ok if you dont know much about sports really

Southie is wicked awesome, everybody knows they got the best aluminum cans.Editor's note: This message has been translated into English from my native language, Mutish.

I was born up on A street, raised up on B street, Southie is my home town!!!

I love southie 331 E street

Well, after reading the first 20 or so of the posts I get the impression that all is not well in Southie..wherever the hell that is, Boston Massawhatsit!Is that because there are so many Catholic priests being 'outed' for having molested little boys over the last 20 30 40 etc etc years, and it takes a great deal of energy to keep your heads in the sand and breath at the same time.Also I wonder what the Americans (NavahoMenominee, Passamaquoddy, Penobscot et al) think about your claim to their land?? Who the hell invited you in the first place? Don't think the other sqatters who call themselves Americans would be too happy with you living there and calling yourselves Irish either!!Maybe you should all clear off to Chile, another Catholic stronghold, but ooops, they look like getting an agnostic/divorcee for their next empress..oh my! Light them bonfires, quick.

I live in DC and am going to be in Boston for Patty's Day 2006 with friends. Should we hit bars in Southie for Patty's Day? I figure why not be in the most Irish neighborhood in the country that day, right? Any suggestions for good Southie Irish bars? Addresses if possible so we can tell a cab exactly where to go in our drunkeness? Also, how many T stops in Southie? any?

Change is inevitable. It's happening in Southie, as well as my own beloved Savin Hill. In the long run, it's a change for the better. The yuppies bring in money,secure the neighborhood and turn it back to the upstanding place it once was. You will have to adapt or move. Ecenomic DarwinismI read about the hardasses like Rooster, Sean Foley? Heh. I know a few of the older thugs, and you know what? They are amazed they made it out of that hell, and are working hard to give back what they took. Their friends? Dead, in jail or missing.The yuppies are here to stay. Their taxes make Boston a better city. You wannabe tough guys do not.You detract from your surroundings.It doesn't really matter.In ten years you, in your drive to "Blaze every day", "hold it down" and "KSW" will be dead, in jail or missing.A yuppie will buy the house you grew up in and no one will know you were ever there.

Hey i got some advice for you. If your not from southie then dont leave broadway on St. Patties day or you will most def. get your ass kicked.

Another Southie girl here. Grew up in D St. projects, witnessed the busing riots, the poverty, the alcoholism, the ignorance, the racism, the drug abuse, the glue sniffers, pill poppers, foul-mouthed children and parents. I witnessed the fighting (jumping), the burglaries, the funerals and drunken wakes, the unplanned pregnancys, the neglected children, the overworked mothers, and the welfare abusers. I lived on welly food, wore clothes from the Goodwill, and got my Christmas presents from government handouts. Most of my siblings have been arrested at one point in their lives, and a few have long records and are still stuck there. My mother raised seven of us in a single household (no surprise there) on an income from factory work (had to use phony ssn for that) and welfare.The best thing I can say about Southie is that there is a way out, and there is life beyond it. The experience made me appreciate soooo much of my life now. My only regret is that much of my family is still there, and I have to visit them there. Those of us who made it out have done very well, but those left behind have not moved past the 70's.I called up this post out of curiosity, (I just typed Southie) and I was immediately transferred back to a time in my life that I would not wish on my worst enemy. Southie will claim your very soul if you let it. If anyone reading this has ANY way out, please take it. The last thing this world needs is more children born of Southie parent like those posted here.Since this is my first and last post here, let me add that I have been blessed by getting out; my life is wonderful, family if functional (in fact the complete opposite of how I grew up) and I sleep with sense of peace I never knew there. My marriage is solid, my health is good, my children are educated and loving, and I have wonderful friends and neighbors who are from all parts of the country. I may not be wealthy, but I have love, compassion and respect for others. I try to make the world a better place, not "my" place. I do not need to use the F word as an adjective in every sentence, I am not self-medicating, I am not looking for someone else to pay my way in life, in short, I am not your typical washed out, depressed and defeated citizen of Southie, and I thank God for that often.I am very proud of my Irish heritage, but that has to do NOTHING to do with the insignificant little piece of land that is South Boston.Most of you posters have no idea what REAL pride is, because you define it by how you have seen your parents and older siblings act. (possessive,self-righteous, bullying, demanding and oblivious of what it is they are trying to hold on to)If you are a Southie lifer, you never had a chance, but believe me, it is never too late. Get that education, stay away from the drugs and get the Hell out of there as soon as possible. Do it for yourself, your children, and society as a whole.

Re: Posted by wjdavisMarch 4, 2006 02:15 AM:You are an example of what a "Proud Irish" should be....There were a few other quality posts too.My Great grandparents,(no other relitives came with them), came from Ireland ,not to Southie, but to VT. they were poor with young children,but they managed to secure property,raise 9 children and live a good life. Their children and they, worked hard, long hours,to achive what they had. They didn't get welfare,etc. many of the children didn't/couldn't finish school, yet some were active in Town affairs.Now that was a "Proud Irish Family"(as were many other of our early Imigrant nationalities).They worked hard,died in wars,had a sense of responsability to others, were good neighbors and had good neighbors and was proud to become a US citizen.As far as I could see, most of the neg. Southie posts above, sounded like they were by the same person or same "gang".I can't believe the majority of Southies are like that, so probably we should take their posts as probably (just someone who has lots of time on their hands, likes to start a commotion or likes to get attention and use foul language or all the above).

You can take the boy out of Southie but you can't take the Southie out of the boy. First, let's correct a few things.Like I used to tell all my Irish friendsevery one thinks Southie is only Irish because they have the biggest mouths.;-)Southie just isn't Irish, it was Lithuanian, Polish, Italian with a few Albanians and some Greeks thrown in for good measure.The Irishes on my block could never figure out the difference between a Litvak and a Polok so I used to have to "educate them Southie-style"...oh, by the way, back in the day, that was with fists and nothing else....Back during the busing days, every one idolized the Irish mob gangsters...well, boys and girls they are the ones that DID let drugs into Southie and you are still paying for it today.Southie needs change for sure...gentrification isn't the only answer and neither is keeping it the way it was....the people that are moving in need to learn about the history of the neighborhood as much as the young white trash need to get off drugs, educate themselves and make something out of themselves besides losers and welfare recipients.The old family homestead in Southie is still in my families' hands. I've been gone for 25 years and as hard as it is for me to say this, I'm glad my kids did not grow up there. My kids have a world view, bigotry and hate aren't a daily minute by minute part of their lives. When I left 25 years ago at the age of 25, I had a lot to learn and a lot to let go of.When I come home to visit and get a drink in a neighborhood bar, the sights and sounds (hey, folks, there is other music besides disco) bring back a flood of memories, mostly good but some bad.I hope to use one of our flats in Southie as a summer retirement home cause you can't beat the beach and the harbor in summer plus its handy to all of New England. Those of us that "escaped" all need to someday try to give back...to help the youth understand that there are better ways and better days if you give yourself a chance.....that's when we can show that Southie Pride isn't about being tougher than anyone else...its about love of neighborhood and being educated and smarter....

im 100% Irish and southie sounds like a great place to me, mass rep

I love southie, but we spend to much time fighting eachother when there are greater wars going on, if yuppies keep moving into Boston it want be southie anymore. We spend our time fighting with our brothers!we need to unite with places like Charlestown and somerville and take back our nieghborhoods, how funny that those are the ctiies of the irish Mob so lets return to our roots, and unite The Boston irish, just as the Irish want the North back. take back your hood......kill a yuppie

wake up yo! you cant get rid of the yuppies, you cant unite with other towns, and you cant reclaim your neighborhoods because you have no solidarity! any sort of vigilantism aimed towards rich people living in southie will get you beat down by the cops 10 times worse than any thing to do with the blacks might. stop blaming people for your own plight. try not hanging out on street corners 7 days a week. welfare is quickly begining to fade out and so are you.

born and raised up the point 6th street between i and k have a love hate relationship with it... ran those streets for alot of years had to get out .. has taken a turn for the worst there is alot of confused teenagers on those street corners.

i would die for southieFor souhie, For southieThy glory is oun own

alot of you arent even full irish, just part.

wattup ive lived in southie since day 1 and im now locked up at harvard street.I hope yobe home soon.

Three cheers to the boys from kerry and to the boys from New York, but the boys who beat the black n tans were the boys from county cork

Here is the opening excerpt from our film Danny Boy that's in pre-production in Southie. It sums up a lot of the posts here.------------Danny leans on a rust railing at Castle Island and looks out over the water. Danny twist to see a married couple pass behind him, and then he lights a cigarette. (Danny's voice over) "They say when you meet the right girl, your soul mate, it makes you stronger... a better man. But I don?t know if that was ever possible for me. You see, I was raised in Southie.Where cloths are green, and the junkies fein... ready to take your hard-earned roll.Where yuppies move in only to live in sin... to find they've lost their soul.Where fathers booze and beat kids with shoes... because love they do not know.Where bars are loud, and mother's proud... bury sons in a six-foot hole.

After reading All Sould I have full respect for SOuthie I just want everyone to be careful!

Whats is sad about all of these posting are they are from people who are never going to leave there. I grew up in "Southie" and was into all the bad shit like everyone else. The truth is I got out and the rest of my friends are all dead or dying. Its cool right now, lets get high, shoot up, cause trouble, jump people. Come 10 years from now when your friends are hanging themselves and ODing on herion, its not going to seem such a cool place to grow up. I have lived in 4 states all big cities and I have and probally never will see so much suicide in one small community. Here is some "Southie" advise, GET EDUCATED AND GET OUT!!!!!Miss you Sean, Roo, Dwayne, Kevin, PJ, Bill, Jay RIP!

Southie R.I.P-----I'm blessed to have grew up in Southie! Southie people aren't racist @ heart. Bussing divided, polarized, and demonized the town. Turned us into something we weren't/aren't. Segregation is wrong but the experiment they pulled with us (bussing), was wrong (to say the least). Most things forced are noo good!There is no more "Southie"! It's now "SoBo". Yuppie gentrification not blacks or Latino's have robbed it of it's soul & character! The "limosine liberals" played, black/white against eachother like pawns on a chess board. We have more in common with our brown brothers in roxbury than the souless yuppies! Michael MacDonalds book All Souls was filled with half truths and exagerations. He didn't tell it like it is or was. And his lies caused alot of pain to be relived!Toicfaidh Ar La!

I Laura here from Dublin Ireland Born and Bred. Not half not quater - all Irish. Can you tell me SAOIRSE what in MP McDonalds book was a lie? I am just intrested. Also juddging by the language of the boards some of you do seem to think you are black. Speak english correctly or is that no black enough for you.

My father grew up in southie. Does anyone know Frank Sances or sometimes he was called Bud or Buddy.I also have an aunt and uncle and cousins from there. Amy and Tav Capellano. does anyone remember these names.

Hello the Irish a friends,I am a Greek man living on a the South Side of Chicago and all I have to say is that a the some bozos clown up there said that there was no Irish place like the Southie and now that is a the yoopies that there ain't no Irish place like it no more. Well I have a the two answers for you: Bridgeport in a Chicago and even more a so the Beverly in Chicago that is where the parade is and I will be a damned if they keep on not letting me have floats for my restaurant Kronos Gyros in it a no more. Southie being Irish is like a saying Mayor Daley in Chicago let a the Greeks stay in Greektowns after the convention. To quote a the Hawk Harrelson of former Red Sock fame "We gone."Peace outs Outhie you have a nice run.

SOUTHIE IS THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE EVER! Its is the greatest place on earth. it makes you strong and skilled. fuck anyone who hates it. Love it or we'll kick ur ass!

I moved from Souhthie recently. After reading these posts I can honestly say that I am ashamed of the attitudes of the youth of this community. This is a different Southie than the one I knew.

i miss the good old days @connollys whatever happen to the old crew the foleys the selter girls billy brennick mikey t and pam sansone the leclairs ??????? we all know what eddie mac turned into

Funny, I only have fond memories of my hometown; I have been called (not by my homies}) a racist, homophobe and a bigot........ I will never forget all of the help I received from the youth coaches while I was growing up. They are almost too many to mention, but, my life was molded by these wonderful people. They were liths and poles and irish and like me Italians. South Boston is not a town it is a spirit. When I meet people, I know who I am and what I stand for. Fairness and being proud of my heritage..Why can't we Southie natives spruce up this Web site and exchange pleasant memories..

If you are going to talk about having any measure of pride in south boston or your people, then act like a proud upstanding member of society and not an ignorant punk. Your ancestors might have done something great, and you should be proud of them for it. Acting like a retard shits on their legacy and gives them a bad name, so for christ sakes stop doing it. Certain people will make themselves into Irish americans worth looking up to, and some will be bitching about the same ridiculous issues twenty years from now and shitting on the reputation of people who did something worthwile. Don't be a prick.

I was born in Southie as was my mum. My Grandmother passed away there. Every time I visit it's like a hug from my Grandmother. It's the safest neighborhood in the entire city. We take care of our own and outsiders don't get it. Its ok though. We don't need your approval and your opnions mean squat.Lithuanian/Irish girl who is paler than pale and wouldn't have it any other way.PS: FISH PIER #1!!!!

hey i was just bored. . readin some of there postings n i just wanted to say. . im from dorchester born & raised & was taught to hate southie by the people around me . . yea yea ive read all souls a million times and i kno about southies past n blah blah blah. . but a few years ago i started hangin around in southie & you know wat? its the best place in the world. . everybody helps each otha out n sticks up for each other & all the haters are onli talkin shit eitha cuz they aint white or bcuz they didnt grow up there n all they know about are the drugs n the stupid shit. . southies real . . n people need to realize that

I'm reading "All Souls" and have seen the acronym TPF a few times and was wondering if anyone knows what it stands for? Thanks!

actually "Sal" St. Patrick was WELSH not Italian, and what would you know about the mafia getting JFK into office. That is the most untrue thing i've heard. If all you want to do is insult the us Irish, say it to our face and don't hide behind the anonymity of an internet post.

I'm doing a documentary on what it's like to be a southie and I need info on what it's like to live there. I hear it's Americas most harcore hood? I don't start filming till st patricks day 2008 any info you can give me let me knowthanks

i was born in harbour point spent summers on carsson beach spent most of my life in southie with friends and family.moved to ireland where my dad is from and been here for 12 yrs.ireland is changing the same way as southie blacks and poles moving in by the thousands every week and getting the upper hand on us irish!!

I agree, South Boston is the greatest town in the world, E 5th & G, but it is not the only town. People from Southie think there world is huge but they have not been outside the city lines of Boston. I agree, when I come back Southie feels larger than life. It makes you feel important, safe and loved.I would Challenge the youth of southie to take it back the right way. Go see the world for free in the military and receive a free education (4 years fly?s by). After the military go to school for free. I never thought I would go to college and finish. Now I have an associate?s degree in fire science and a career as a firefighter. Only you can plan your future. Start now by making good decisions.I have read all souls. My best friend?s brother wrote it. There is so much character in southie that every person there has an opportunity to be truly great.

I'm not Irish, but I've lived in Southie my whole life. I'm not exactly a "Southie kid" because I don't wander around the streets and get smashed and all that because it's just not my thing. Most of my friends in Southie aren't the hardcore Irish pride type either, but I get along with the Southie kids when I'm with them and there's no tension.Most Southie kids are all "ksw" and as ignorant as everyone says in their teen years, but once they grow up, they get with the program more. The ones who don't mature end up as bums or die off from drugs. Then their kids become the same way, and that's the stereotypical Southie kid. But most of the Southie kids I know are tough on the outside, but really good people on the inside. Not to mention funny as hell.Most of this "wigga" stuff isn't Southie as much as it is kids being kids. The guys listen to rap and the girls wear Abercrombie because that's American pop culture being thrown at them no matter where they live- Southie or not. Give them a few years either at college or working a job, and they learn pretty quick and drop all the "wigga" habits. You don't see a 30 year old white guy from Southie walking down the street with baggy jeans and trying to be gangsta. It's just a kid thing that will pass.What makes Southie great is the sense of community. It's a town where everyone knows/is related to everyone else, and they're really loyal to their friends. Southie people know the community's their greatest strength, so no one's going to be happy when new people move in. Blacks have a different culture than white Irish Americans. So do yuppies. I have nothing against black people normally, but I think it's in everyone's best interest if the standing social structure isn't intruded on. There wouldn't be anywhere near as much racism in Southie if people didn't have to be afraid of compromising part of the community that means so much to them. Integration is usually a good thing, but Southie's different, at least for now.The whole busing thing was because Southie didn't want its traditional community threatened. The people back then had a right to be angry, but it evolved into racism. That's the racism that kids here see now- they just know that their parents are racist, but don't have the same justification for it as their parents did. That's not good.I think if you want to really know what Southie is, and could be, you have to listen to the Dropkick Murphys. Their lyrics capture the spirit perfectly. The same for All Souls. It's about people who are going through a rough time (usually poor) who spend their lives fighting to make things better. Sometimes they fail in the process, but at least they were real. That's what the Irish thing is all about- the drinking and the Irish pride are only parts of it.I'm still a kid (well educated, applying to some really good colleges at the moment, intend to make something of myself), but I have to say that the adults in my neighborhood understand Southie better than the kids do. Those are the people who sit on their front steps and talk to you when you walk by, just saying hi because they know you're from Southie. It's not about trying to be "from the hood," and the kids who are like that will figure that out sooner or later.Southie's got problems, but it's got a lot of good there too. There's hate and homophobia, but you just have to accept everything about the place whether you like it or not. I do, and I love it here.

I just moved to somerville and I've yet to come on down to southie. My Mums from Belfast and my dad is from Newfoundland and I grew up in hells kitchen. I just want to say to the people who are saying that Irish americans are racist your a little off. We are just trying to hold onto our ethnic identity. As far as the yuppies go keep them out, look what they did to the kitchen. As some other people on here have said dont try and be black thats their identity not ours! There will always be some form of gangsters in communitys that police themselves but at least ours dont do random drive bys. That being said dont think cause your irish your a gangster it is not a life you should envy. I have 2 brothers serveing life 1 doing 10 years one who od and one who was shot. My 2 sisters and I have worked hard to become something. My point is in that life style you dont do it half way. We must keep our identity ours and our streets ours, but youd be amazed what approching it with intelligence will do. Keep southie yours and dont let what happend to the kitchen happen to your streets! P.S Im proud to be a Narrow back!

It's over. Yuppies are not taking over Southie. They already have...and it's great!! Less crime, higher property valuees, safer streets, no drugs, pretty soon we'll have good schools also. More Yuppies Please!!

I've never even been to Southie and I love it. Read All Souls though.Cheers

Some yuppies moved in next door to my grandma's place. THey are mad cool. they look out for her and are mad nice. they help her with her groceries and what not. guess some yuppies are cool; some arent.

I have a friend that lives near the corner of E and West 2nd street. The area is nice and quiet yet only a 5 minute walk to the T. A few of her neighbors (who she is friends with now) are gay and they love it in Southie. I have been to her place a hundred times and I love it also. I don't see white kids acting "black". I don't see white trash. I don't see trash littered across the streets... so I am not sure what half these posts are about.

You all need a reality check. I only read about 2/3 of the comments here, but here's what I have to say.I've lived here for about a year, and all of you life long residents are straight up miserable. Get a grip. You complain about the yuppies, and I suppose you have your reasons. But the yuppies are the ones that are paying an arm and a leg to rent your mommy and daddy's condo. Do you have any idea how many places I looked at that were "the house I inherited from my father, and now we're renting it out"? Please... if it wasn't for yuppies paying the bullshit rent posted by you so called real Southie Irish, none of you would have a way out.You think you guys are hard down here. Come to the Bronx, where I'm from. Take a look at the people there who take the hard knocks with the good times and learn to love life without complaining about minorities, gays, or yuppies.I like it here, but your buses are for shit and you people don't give a crap about your streets. Come see the amount of trash that gets thrown over the fence and into my yard. If it wasn't for the regular street sweepers, you'd all be knee deep in your own mess.Talk all you want about Southie. I see you little white kids walking down the street acting hard, and quite frankly, black. You guys have no idea. Come to my world back in NY anytime you want and you'll realize how spoiled and ungrateful you are. Last bastion of Irish Middle Class, my ass...you all sold out a long time ago, along with your rat ass Whitey Bulger. Now he runs and hides... typical rat bastard.If it weren't for how this place is portrayed in Cinema, you would have nothing. Wake up...you're not gansters and you're not Boondock Saints. You're just a bunch of wannabe hard white boys (I am white, btw) who will bitch and moan but never do anything to change your silver platter lifestyles.

I am new to Southie. Well not that new; I have been living here for almost 2 yrs. Some would call me a yuppie because I am a "Young Professional" (whatever that means). I grew up in the rich suburbs of Massachusetts and I LOVE Southie! It is a great place to live in the city. You have your quiet parts, you have your "hustle and bustle" parts, you have a beach, running trails, you are no more than 4 miles from anyhere in Boston, you have GREAT public transportation and most importantly it's safe. If you are nice to people in Southie they are nice to you. What a wonderful place Southie is and I am glad to be a part of it.

@ Wolfman. Why is it that every New Yorker I seem to run into uses every conversation as an excuse to be like "I'm from NY and my hometown is better than yours!!!" 1) It's no better or worse and 2)No one actually cares. You think people don't take the "hard knocks with the good times" here? Congratulations, after a year, you still haven't managed to understand the community at all.Southie is actually a really supportive place to live if you belong in the community. There are bitch fights here and there, but anyone who's sitting here stereotyping everyone in Southie needs to actually look and see what they're talking about. Because honestly, half of you sound just as ignorant as the "ksw" idiots.

Southie is a great place to live. I have been here for 4 years now and the neighborhood has changed a lot. You can argue if it for good or worse..but there has been change. Young professionals have discovered Southie and they are not going anywhere. Especially when they tell all their friends how much they love Southie. I think it's good for the community. Having high salaried residents can only mean good things for the local businesses around Southie.

The young professionals are staying longer too. In other Boston neighborhoods they move out as soon as they get married or are close to having kids. But in Southie you see plently of young married couples pushing strollers around. In my opinion this is good - it feels more like a community.

In response to Steve.Yes. Having residents with more discretionary spending cash is great for local businesses. I am a local business owner and the yuppies have made my business. My family and I are very thankful for that. I just wish my friends and family didn't get priced out and have to move out of Southie.

MERRY CHRISTMAS to EVERYONE not just Catholics. It's up to all of us to move foward! :)

born raisd in southie i was there when all the bussing stARTED HALF OF MY FRIENDS DIED BEFORE WHEY WERE 21 MICHAEL MCDONALD DON'T KNOW SHIT A BOUT SOUTHIE THAT COLUMBIA POINT FAG JUST WROTE DOWN A FEW NAME OF PEOPLE HE DID NOT EVEN KNOW !! THE BUSSING DAYS HE WASENT EVEN THERE HE TOOK OTHER PEOPLES STORIES AND TRIED TO MAKE THEN HIS OWNAND EVEN MADE SHIT UP THAT NEVER TOOK PLACE I WORKED IN THE SOUTH BOSTON LIQUER MART AND TRIPLE O'S. SO FUCK OFF MICHAEL MCDONALD WRITE A STORY ABOUT SOME ONE YOU REALY KNOW. KEEP THE FAITH SOUTHIE.. MIKE MAHAR SOUTHIE FOR EVER

hey cj tpf stands for tactical police force.any thing else mike mahar keep the faith southie forever

Ed, do you have much vandalism on your store? I remember talking to a nice woman who said her family owned a theatre on/near Broadway and had to close because the local teenage bastards were always cutting up the seats.People get priced out of housing all over the place. I grew up in what was the boondocks. People from Malden and other similar places started moving in and before we knew it, we had to lock all the doors. In Southie, the more people who move in, the less you have to lock everything up, the less scratch tickets are blowing around, less dog mess, etc. It's a good thing.

2nd generation Irish Boy here and I will say Southie is better NOW than it has ever been. Yes, it is sad to see people have to leave because they can't afford it but gone are the drugs, gone is the hate and gone is the crime. We still have a close knit community and we have a safe neighborhood for our kids to play in. Now that I am a parent, I'll take those things any day.

Hey guys, I am doing a documentary on the busing riots in Southie. Any one that witnessed it or has pictures or whatever please get in touch with [email protected]

Hi everbody, I just read Michael MacDonald's book 'Southie' and I've been checking out all the sites. This one is quite interesting. I am Irish-American, however I did not grow up in Southie, or anywhere in Boston for that matter. I was born and raised in Washington State. After reading some of these postings I felt very sad. I don't understand when the government realized the bussing wasn't going to work, why did they continue it? Why didn't they just back off? It is confusing- neither town wanted it- both were willing to fight for it, and the government continued with their experiment. It kind of makes you feel sick to your stomach. Even though it happened so long ago- I understand why these kid's are so angry. The government never backed off. After all the suicides, murders, and drop-outs, Southie has had to endure, now they are changing their town again. What the fuck is going on here? You guy's need to fight in court- Get all the sh*t together- get lawyers and demand your town back. They get away with this kind-of sh*t in towns that are lower incomed, because they can!! Let them know that they can't anymore. My family came into America through New York and Canada and somehow settled in Washington- I guess it reminded them of Ireland- I am the youngest of 9 kids, I now have about 17 neices and nephews, we were catholic until our church got weird and then we became Lutherans. Just thought I'd throw that in. sorry....., anyways Keep up the Pride- and here's a tip: even if you dropped out of high school- you can still go to college- get into politics- save your town.

Hello!I've been reading this page with really mixed feelings about southie people! For a start,none of you southie born people are any way irish in any form, culture, we are a proud nation of people, who endured extreme racism and brutality for hundreds of years, the past is in the past now,the north of ireland is beginning to see some kind of peace deal take place, so please quit with I know this I know that about irish history (you don't know shit!! ( your schools don't teach you about our history, you people hear what you want to hear from others probably who've been telling you shite fables of ireland,as it's funny how galway is always the county that you people say your from!! where abouts? what area? who's the irish capatin of the national rugby team? what significance did the rebel countess have with british parliment? This one is to the idiot who thought there were no gay people in ireland..Oscar Wilde! to all the idiots who thought ireland didn't have any black people..Phil Lynott! You all act like you have a massive chip on your shoulder, well why? you people certainly didn't encounter hatred against the irish in your country, so quit with the acting all angry, your only angry because your all confused with your identity as your all really belonging to the pilgrim fathers, your just trying to claim our heritage, well I'm afraid you have to be born and bred in ireland, or at the very least both parents need to be born in ireland, because franky afer the 3rd generation you should just move on with your own american heritage, and be proud of that.Slainte!!

I was born in Southie, lived there for 14 years. We lived in "Old Harbor" or MEM projects. Problem is there is alot of pride and people from there are against change. I'm very proud to be from ther andeveryone should wether your a Yuppy or not, cause you know what?; Yuppies make good money and are sucessfull, I've become a Yuppy and I'm f'n proud of it...Southie rat for life....

It just goes to show how young these posters are. And how much they do not know about Southie.I asked a question on 12-3-06 about the old crew @Connolly"s BILLY BRENNICK /THE SELTER GIRLS ETC ETC and no one had an answer.For you kids out there it was a bar on the corner of E.STREET AND WEST BROADWAY. P.S DO YOU KIDS EVEN KNOW THE SOUTHIE SONG????? FOR THE OLDER GENERATION PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL AN OLD SOUTHIE BOY @[email protected]

dont live in southie but pretty much grew up there. all my famil is there and it is like a second home. fuck all the movies that are making it out to be a shit hole. great place to live and grow up.

THE ONLY MOVIE THAT SHOWED THE REAL SOUTHIE. WAS GOOD WILL HUNTING

In response to Amy;I knew Frank Sances "Budzo" He was a great guy...A really big heart

To all those dumb shits that haven't looked around your neighborhood lately.I don't know if you noticed but us Irish have spread out throughout Eastern Mass and now Southie is Puerto Rican, Black, Italian and all kinds of other races. There is also a huge difference between Southie (South Boston) and the South End (Boston). The South End is a gay community. Don't get me wrong, Southie is still mostly Irish, but not just Irish.

Why is it when any group prefers to stay together, your labeled as a racist. With anything there is shit. Low life's every where. We police our own shit. Southie was like any other place in that aspect, but thats not what makes me proud of where I am from. What does. I know where I come from. I can say My family has owned the same house for over 100 years. How many of you can say you walk the same streets you Great Grandfather and Grandmother did. Go to the same church you parents where married at. There are many good thing about it. I have a connection to the past. Many of the people from Southie feel this way. So how do we expect a bunch of carpet baggers to understand this. Reading through this really makes me understand the downward spiral Southie is in. The place I once knew is dieing. Its sad. I look back, It was a place where everyone knew your family, and you could not get away with shit. Everyone looked out for each other. This is what we are. We come from a people who lost their homes,and loved ones and our way of life to an oppressor. Many of our families suffered great loses. We come to America and at this time it was a place that was not very accepting to the Irish. We had to carve out a piece of America and call it home. We rebuilt what we lost. Regardless of the opposition. To survive this we had to come together. And we did it! We come from a long line of Fighters. What we gained, we fought for. Its the same thing the Italians did in the North End. And the other Ethnic Groups through out Boston. And this is what made Boston as a whole, Special, you could take a trip around the world in 1 day. As I said before, how do we expect any carpet baggers to understand any of this. Just remember they are the Offspring of the shit our Great Grand parents had to deal with. Still trying to destroy our way of life.

yo i was born and raised in old colony 49 burke street apt.569 i know what its like living there if ppl wish to talk shit about southie thats their choice if you think their a bunch of faggots walk into these projects and see if you dont get a fucking slug in your head pieces of shits who the fuck do you think you are bad mouth my neighborhood you get shot and thrown in a dumpster and set on fire believe me i witnessed this shit either that go into mary ellen mccormick and talk shit there theyll straight up kill ya bodied wuddup to my ppl in d st

Johnny...wow! Shot, thrown in a dumpster, THEN set on fire. That's thorough.I worked by the Fort Point Channel in Southie for a while. Some Southie kids broke into our warehouse one weekend and used it as a clubhouse. One of them was dumb enough to use the phone in the office. When the cops called the number back the kid's grandmother answered, denied everything and gave the girl an alibi. Hilarious.

i have to ask...and don't any harrrd core southie kids out there get pissed at me, but i really don't know...i was raised in southie my whole life up until last year, when my mother moved me to westie. she tried wicked hard to stamp the southie-ness out of me, but i have soo much pride from where i'm from and the place i call home.so i have to ask, what's the deal with the southie dot? where does it generally go on the wrist? i have a friend of mine offering to give me a tattoo free, and i feel like a southie dot would be the best to represent who i am and my hometown.the problem is, whenever i asked a someone in person, if they're not from southie they'd be like, why you want a tattoo? and kids from southie call me a yuppie (which i can understand why) and never tell me, and the oldtimers think its wrong for teens to be getting them.so please don't assume i'm a yuppie or anything, i'm honestly desperate to know.

I have sympathy for the people that have lived in Southie for generations and are being kicked out of their homes because their landlords sold the place to developers. However, that's what happens when you rent for over 50 years...someone can sell it because IT DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU.The people in this thread do not correctly represent the real people of Southie. The people that have lived there their whole lives and actually take care of the neighborhood. Those people are the nicest people in the world. The kids in here are just idiots.The streets, the buildings and the people of Southie have all been redone. That's life.My advice: move to Roxbury or Dorchester for the next decade, but consider a rent to own option...so you don't find yourself in the same situation 15 years from now.Times, they are a changin'.

I can't believe this thread is still going after 3 years. In 2005 I posted (under my real name unlike almost everyone else, including my critics):"By the way I was happy that the Boston Church was laid siege to by the victims of its pedophile priests. Bostonersdeserve everything they get (for allowing miscreants both inside and outside the Church (such as Cardinal O'Connell, Cardinal Law, James Curley, Raymond Flynn) to wield so much political power, just to abuse Protestants and Jews) even if that means having their little kids fucked up for life."I was accused by another poster who stated "[I] ... discussed the sex abuse scandal in the church ... [and] how *dare* you. Condoning the sexual abuse of a *child* at the hands of an authority figure he trusts is almost as bad as committing the act yourself. Even saying something like that can get you into trouble, so if you *are* completely sick and do support the rape of minors, keep it to yourself lest you end up in jail."Let me point out that, unlike Patrick Pearse, Archbishop McQuaid, and thousands of priests worldwide, I am not a paedophile. I was just pointing out that I was happy these children finally got their due and opened everyone (or almost everyone's) eyes despite the scandals ("laid siege"). Catholic integralism, like all forms of religious and/or political fanaticism, has a way of rebounding negatively onto those who choose to foist it on any society.For me the undemocratic and unhealthy political supremacy of the RC Church in Boston had to come to an end, for the sake of American liberty and all humanity, remembering the role that Irish Catholics played in keeping America out of WWII until Pearl Harbor, but happily dragging us into the quagmire of Vietnam.Unfortunately, it took this kind of child abuse to open the eyes of the priest-ridden people who chose to give these church leaders almost uncontrolled political influence (since the days of the pro-Nazi prelate O'Connell). That reflects on Bostoners and Southies, not me.R. M. Sieger

I was just wondering why everyone hates "Yuppies?" I'm not denying being one, I'm 26, have a job in the city, and I really do like living in southie. I probably know more about it's history than most of the 15 year olds on this site, but that's another story.I'm sorry if you think we are impeding on your territory or something, but what else are we supposed to do? The price is right, the area is fun, and it's right near the water. I've played pickup bball or stickball w/ some of the local kids and it's usually fine. I think mostly people are just trying to be tough when they say they hate the yuppies. The truth is, most of us like the same things if we are young enough. I like to get wasted and stumbled home just as much as the next guy, and I follow all the local sports teams just as closely. My grandparents are from Ireland, yet because I've only been here for 4 years and grew up on the south shore I'm this big intruder?I'd really be curious to hear what your major problem is? I've heard of a few of my friends getting jumped by a bunch of teenagers, and I think it's sad. The truth is, your dad probably sold me my condo and made a ton of cash on it, so how can you be so upset?Would like to see some responses that don't involve swearing or ignorance, let's have a conversation and see how it goes. Peaceee.

Yuppie,That's an interesting one. As you no doubt already know, many if not most of the yuppies in Southie are of Irish descent. I do believe that the problem for many of the locals is both that they are not able to cope with the same changes that are happening everywhere in the Western world. They are stuck in a time warp pining for the old days that weren't really any good in reality. They say their friends got pushed out...by whom? If you own a home, you can stay there until the coroner arrives. Then you can pass it to your children. The people who rented for decades are beyond help as Southie used to be really cheap.The second problem is that no one wants to be reminded of their own failure. There's loads of 5th generation Americans around you pretending to be Irish who have seen several new ethnic groups surpass them, hence the racism. Seeing an Irish American work hard and succeed simply makes them re-categorize you as a yuppie. That makes you easier to hate because you're a yuppie. You're not Irish anymore because you contribute to the world.It sounds like you did find some good people around you, but keep your guard up for the little punks. I'm one of the last people to get targeted by anyone and unlike the little punks, I did box and wrestle. However, walking home one day years ago staggering with the flu, even I got targeted by the little punks...a group of them of course.

So I have been living in Southie for 4 years. I know all my neighbors (who grew up here), they are very nice and friendly.The whole Yuppie vs. Old School thing is non existent. You have a few kids on here posting that's about it. Trust me. I live in Southie and I am a Yuppie. No one is giving me mean looks, no one is doing anything to me. People here are nice.

Southie is great, I like the place a lot.

The whole yuppie/townie thing isn't limited to Southie. It happens in lots of formerly poor/working class areas that become targets for yuppies. The answer is simple. You take working class people who have a tight-knit community and suddenly the housing prices are driven up and people can no longer afford to live where they grew up. Moreover, "yuppies" bring with them different kinds of businesses--places where good isn't good enough, fancy "upscale" shops, etc. and...the whole place changes. So....there's potential for tension. It's happened here, in NYC, etc. Not unusual.

I just moved to Southie. I am a yuppie and a good amount of my neighbors are old schoolers. We all get along great. We stop and talk every time we see each other. I go over their place for beers and they come over mine. We look after each other's place if we one of us goes away on vacation.Southie is a great place to live no matter who you are.

As someone who was raised on "L" Street and has lived around the world, be appreciative of the unique qualities - with all its imperfections - found on the wondeful streets and in the warm homes of South Boston. The lucky ones are those of us who did not need a few movies to learn about the Southie experience. From Mocha Mahoney and Father Joe LaPorte to Injun and Jocko, we have been blessed with some wonderful, real characters who truly cared about the neighborhood, its kids, and traditions we continue to hold dear even as they fade away like some old paint job.I had the best childhood possible...thanks Southie!!

I don't think the majority of people living in Southie dislike yuppies because they are intruding on our territory, I think most people dislike them because the vast majority of them are very fuckin ignorant. I was down the L St. beach today and there was a group of about 15-20 yuppies being extremely loud, swearin and just being the pricks they really are when native Southie people were just trying to take their kids to the beach. I'm 19 years old and the lifeguard had to repeatedly tell the yuppies to conceal their booze because they were flauntin it around spillin it everywhere and just carelessly dumpin their shit all over the beach. That right there, is why most REAL Southie people don't like the Yuppies.

Sully,I can see how that would be annoying. It's weird because usually when I'm at the beach its the 14-18 year old southie kids (especially the hooched out girls) who are being loud and obnoxious and bothering everyone. The guys are usually are throwing rocks, wrestling, swearing loudly or doing something else that makes them look "tough." Also, usually they will stare us down and make some comments even though we are just sitting there.Theres a big difference between the families with young children who are from southie, and the teenagers and extreme locals who have take up the crusade against yuppies.I have no idea who you are so I'm not judging you in particular, but do you not notice when the local southie kids loiter everywhere and are loud, spray graffiti, jump certain "yuppies"? I think that a lot of people are very selective about what they notice around town. Though I don't dismiss it as shitty, being loud at the beach is much different than 5 local kids jumping 1 25 year old walking home for no reason(as happened to a friend of mine), or throwing broken bottles in the middle of the street to get a laugh.I think some of southie is misguided in their hatred and of what the problem really is. Believe it or not, some southie people don't do the right thing, are obnoxious, and bring down the area. As do some of the "yuppies". I think a lot of folks are just bitter that there's someone else on their turf, and it's not that we are ruining it.What I'm saying is I don't buy into your idea that the yuppies are ignorant and rude and that's why everyone hates them. Most kids I know who have moved into southie are extra careful to be nice and courteous, especially around locals because they don't like the stigma of being a yuppie. Also, if we brought in 100 random people from another country and had them observe Southie for a week, which subset of people do you think they would pick out as being the most "ignorant" and obnoxious--local southie kids or the yuppies?

Like the natives are sooooo peaceful and never cause any problems. It's that kind of delusion that has held the area down. If you brought some outside observers into southie for one week to see who causes trouble in the area I'll give you one guess who they would say.

i grew up on f street neer to the gavin middle school best years of my life. i seen some bad things and met some bad people. i also some many good people and goodx things.

Sully,Take a look at the Boston police logs for south boston and tell me who causes the most trouble in the area...yuppies or local kids/drunks.

Yuppie,Try this one; take a look at the police log in Newton, a town with yuppies but no Southie locals. One funny thing is that many of the Southie cops are locals who are hesitant to arrest their childhood buddies. You can imagine what the real "Group of punks against working professional" crime rate is.The Whitey worshipping locals are the source of all the violence and other stupidity in Southie.Yuppies is just a hate word for people with a future. I remember talking to the poor old woman who had to shut down her theatre in Southie due to the local little punks who kept cutting up her seats with knives. She finally had to shut the doors. The locals couldn't stand to see even a nice old woman make a few honest bucks.

Yuppie,Dont get me wrong I'm not saying Southie kids are angels, but you can't say, or justify for that matter, that yuppies are either. And honestly, regardless of what you say, I still think that alot of yuppies are very ignorant. I completely understand that you all want to go out and have a good time, but before you move in to Southie maybe you should consider and realize that there are alot of kids living in this town that do not particuarly like you moving in at all. Its too bad to hear about your friend, and I wouldn't call you a liar if you said he got jumped for no reason at all. My whole reason for postin on this blog is to try and get the fact that not all yuppies are these kind, caring, and quiet people. I live right off Broadway and I see plenty of yuppies parading around at 2 A.M shitfaced leaving the Beer Garden or whereever they were. Sure Southie kids are out doing the same thing, and maybe they are even doing worse things, but my arguement is that most yuppies are loud pretty obnoxious and overall rather ignorant. I'll check this more often to see what people have to say.

I'm 24 years old and just moved into Southie from Winchester about eight months ago. I live near Broadway, and I can honestly say that there are very few weekends in which I do not get my ass beat or get severely harrassed by Southie locals. Being a "Yuppie" myself, I guess I can understand why some locals may be angry with us "yuppies" intruding on their territory, buy honestly, is there any reason for the Southie teens to be putting dog crap in my damn mailbox? I do not think so. Honestly, I'm pretty fed up with all the crap I take from these kids, but everytime I try to say something or do something I end up getting my butt handed to me, usually leaving me on the ground, embarrassed, and no more than ten feet away from my own damn condo. I just wanted to post and warn the ignorant that the kids living in Southie usually travel in packs, and for the most part will not hesitate to harrass or you. I'd suggest keeping your guard up at night, especially after spending a night out on Broadway, or wherever you may have been. I ended up fistfighting a local teenager just two weekends ago, one on one. I myself am a rather tall guy, about 6'2 and I expected to knock the little shit out in one punch, but I'll admit it, he got the best of me. All the MMA and Boxing gyms in Southie are making these kids machines. The combo I recieved two weeks ago, could not have come from anybody with no boxing experience. Seriously, how often does a 6'2 guy get put on his butt by a KID, no older than 18, no bigger than 5'8! I was ashamed. In conclusion, make sure you keep your guard up, and avoid confrontation with the damned teenagers.

Hi everyone I grew up in Southie between 4th and Broadway on M st. I remember going to the aquarium in Southie as a young child. It was very spooky it had a long white tiled channel that opened up to a circular area with platforms in it where the seals would swim and bark. Later as a young boy my friends and I snuck in there after it had been closed down....lolI used to go to the Strand theater every Saturday mattinee, god was that great 2 movies and cartoons along with The Three Stooges in between the 2 feature films for around a quater!Lets not forget SLOCUM'S TOY STORE,what a cool place.Great display's in the window. I remember seeing KLICK KLAX magic blocks there on a mechanical display. I couldn't wait to buy them. I have so many fun memories as a pre-teenager of course there are other exciting not so pleasant memories but i'll leave them for another post.

I love Boston and i love Southie!!!! Been there many times. I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada and work for an airline up here. Been visiting Boston all my life and think Southie rocks!!! From Canada i say Hallelujah to Southie!!!!!!

Chad,It seems like you and I are in a relatively familiar position. There are a lot of yuppies on here calling Southie a very safe place to live, and quite frankly I do not agree with them. I myself cannot deny the fact that I am a yuppie, and I am constantly harassed for it. I cannot stand the fact I can't walk up Broadway without getting pushed, punched, kicked, or body slammed weekend after weekend by teenage kids. I mean I'm not a big guy so maybe that's why they target me, but I've also seen some big guys get knocked out by one or two kids in various bars. I've never been jumped or anything in a dark alley, but I have a few friends who have been jumped and then had their money stolen from their wallets when they were on the ground. One of my friends actually had his sneakers stolen. It's a rough area so try and make sure your always with somebody at night.

Derek,That is amazing. I am a total yuppie from the burbs and I have NEVER even felt any type of danger at anytime. I walk up and down broadway and hit up all the bars all the time at all hours - NOTHING. I am pretty small too: 5' 5". Maybe just bad luck? I also heard most of the knuckleheads are from Revere and other places; they just come to Southie cuz its 'cool' to hang out here.Anyway good luck to ya.

Southie was the best place to grow up. The people are the best. People in Southie don't take shit from anyone. That's why people write in to dog us. They know we're the BEST.

Hi, My family lived in Southie...my Nana Sally has a brick commerating her outside Logan Way....my family's all gone now...my Dad passed in December '03. I have memories of playing in the water in my Nana's lawn on Logan Way. Please, I want to know about my family...Please contact me.Thank YouErin

Wow this thread is still growing. I wanted to add, a lot of the yuppies are old townies that bettered themselves. In some ways Southie is better than it has been in years. Southie has always had a thorn in its side. As for the glory days, you would have to be in you 60s to recall those. Some elements of the good ole days still linger. through the 70s 80s and 90s Southie hit a low. Drugs became all the rage. Our youth lost their way. Our kids became dummies and forgot about their Grandparents plight.They stole, assaulted their way to lower property values. they made our town shit. I am glad its on an upward swing. the old houses are being repaired and broadway is coming back to life. 10 years ago it was a freakin ghost town.Crime was high. Southie has been always better than this shit. These ass wipes gave the Town a bad name. But The old Townies coming back and rebuilding their old neighborhoods have made their ancestors proud.

Well i happen to be a teenage kid born and raised my whole life in southie and ya fuck yuppies we dont like you.yous need to go back to the burbs and stay there.Southie is the greatest anyone who disagrees can go suck a dick. SOUTHIE till the death of me!

so i'm writing a report seeing if the southie neighborhood has changed from the way it wuz described in the book All Souls by Michael Patrick MacDonald... Can any1 help me out and tell me how ur neighborhoods are?

Born and breed. I was a teen in the 80's. Southie has changed big time. Southie Pride. I was proud, and I am proud, but...Hmmmm.....I was sometimes a bit embarrassed to be from Southie, especially when I was outside of Southie.Often people would assume I was a racist or give me this weird respect from fear 'cause they thought I would crack 'em one. I'm not a racist. Never have been. "That word" was not allowed in my house. I'm also third generation Southie. I find it funny how some white suburbans were so quick to prejudge me by assuming that I hated black people. I'm sorry, who's the prejudiced one here?People from Southie are more xenopobic then racist. They don't hate black people or yuppies. They hate EVERYONE EQUALLY who's not from Southie.(Ha!) Now having said that, most people from Southie don't hate that way at all. It's just some ignorant percentage, like these "Southie teens" and other dumb asses claiming to be from Southie. (Some of them are clearly lying) yapping in this blog. ('Cept me 'course.) who need to stop embarrassing themselves, and the neighborhood they claim to love. It's these ignorant yappers that get all the press. I'll take the friggin' yuppies to you yappies any day. You only need a few bad apples to spoil the whole bunch. Southie pride my arse. You're a Southie disgrace!Now...ehem...in their defense, if people from Southie fear strangers, there's reason for it. They were made that way. Read the history. (No, before the forced bussing,) and find out how all of us Irish folks ended up on this small isthumus of land. Hint; INNA. Here come boatloads of grubby, starving Irish that no one would have, and they were creeping out the established Brahman. Fast forward, now these neobrahmans have decided that this land is too good for us, and "Southie" needs to scatter, and disperse. Why wouldn't the residents resent the newcomers? They've been trying to break up this clan since the 70's. Our resistance is just a normal human reaction when you think about it. If you beat a dog down, one of two things will happen; it'll become very timid and cowardly, or it'll become mean as hell. Either way, even the timid one will occasionally snap, and bite.I, and many others from Southie, hate the game. Not the players, and not the individual yuppy that moves next door to you.Southie has changed and is still changing. Gentrification is not a battle that Southie is going to win this time. It's over. It dying and it hasn't got long to live. At least not in the way it was. I'll remember Southie. RIP. The powerful sense of community and togetherness. A village. Goodbye to all of Southie's good qualities, and her bad.To those (few) teens who cling to Southie's dying reputation, please, just roll with the change. You're clinging to an image of Southie that no longer exists in the present. Get a job you clown. Stop embarrassing yourself.

NICK - I really enjoyed reading your post! Please post again.

South Shore is the new Southie... all the white trash from Southie sold their homes to Yuppies for 500K and bought a home for 300K on the south shore and now they are sitting on 200K.

born on southie a long time ago, moved to dorchester,then back o southie. there was a time when you could send your wife out at 3 a.m. and no one would bother her. those days are long gone. the movement over the past 2 decades to live in southie has destroyed the soul of the "real" southie. the outsiders have done thier jobs well. they have turned it inot a melting pot , consisting of all types of people, good and bad. drugs and crime rampant. in the good ole days, southie policed itself. sure , there was some problems, but nothing neighbors couldnt handle. the best years of my life were spent at what is now the post office at 446 east third street, the old IA restaurant (best pizzas), slocums. had every toy in the world, 2 diff delis at I and broadway.

Say what ya want about Southie, but there never was or never will be a place that had more pride in itself. R.I.P. good ole Southie

Hey,
Im 100% irish born and bred, lived here all my life and will die here. I love been irish and i also love the irish abraod esp the irish - american bond. i love reading the posts on here of boston irish been proud to be irish. keep it up, wouldnt mind visiting southie now to see how the irish way over there. bit surprised about all this racist stuff, not very irish.