Around 8:30 p.m. at Tremont and Upton streets. WCVB reports the driver stayed at the scene.
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Around 8:30 p.m. at Tremont and Upton streets. WCVB reports the driver stayed at the scene.
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Which American cities are
By anon
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 2:03pm
Which American cities are these mythical places you speak of?
no american cities
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 05/31/2017 - 5:21pm
no american cities
Not Aging Well
By Fitz
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 8:48am
“There’s a lot of talk about what the city is doing to make everything safer — pedestrians need to be safer,” Walsh said.
I see reckless, dangerous driver and pedestrian behavior every
By MC Slim JB
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 9:35am
day and night around the South End.
I'm particularly horrified by this one because I drive through or walk across that particular crosswalk about a thousand times a year.
We. Don't. Know.
By lalabonila
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 10:18am
Just saw this on Twitter and I think it's important to remember that the driver is a person too -- one who is probably feeling pretty shi*ty this morning. I saw a tweet that said: it's possible to "ALSO feel bad for the driver that hit the pedestrian."
Accidents do happen sometimes. I feel like it's a safe bet that this person didn't get in their car and say "Ok, gonna go kill some pedestrian crossing the street tonight!" We don't know the facts, of course. Maybe they had been drinking (it was a holiday...), maybe they were distracted (ban cell phones while driving, Charlie). Maybe the pedestrian was intoxicated and/or stumbled/fell into traffic. (Oh no! I thought of an instance when and acknowledged that both sides could be to "blame" -- what will the "victim blaming police" do now?!) We. Don't. Know. Unfortunately, tragically, there's only one person still around (alive) to tell their side -- maybe, hopefully there are witnesses or cameras that can help fill in that information.
So there's a lot we don't know. But we do know is that this is horrible, and we (humans) need to do things and make changes to prevent it from happening again. It's unfortunate that we have more evidence that the mayor's a whole lot of "saying what sounds good" and not a lot of "actually doing things that help."
Wake up
By anon
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 1:01pm
The fact is that negligent drivers kill people on urban roadways and are almost always at fault.
The fact is that excessive speed in areas where pedestrians have the right of way kills people.
Pedestrians have the right of way in any crosswalk without a light. All the time. Always. Ever.
The fact is that there are rarely such a thing as "accidents" - they are called collisions by the grown up professionals who investigate them. God or the Tooth Fairy or Fate or WTFever you wanna worship has shit-all to do with them - they are the result of ERROR, NEGLIGENCE or sometimes MALICE on the part of a motor vehicle operator. Thus they can be prevented or controlled or their cause removed from the risk pool if necessary.
Your thinking is dangerous, dated, and foolish. It contributes to the carnage. It kills people.
Here you go again.
By whyaduck
Wed, 05/31/2017 - 10:35am
There is rarely such a thing as an accident? Really? Hokey. Yes, sometimes accidents are a result of an error (either by the motor vehicle operator or the pedestrian and/or the cyclist), and rarely malice. Some accidents are collisons, some are not.
So, collisions can be prevented or controlled? Really? Hokey. I was almost hit by a pick up truck, last year, as I crossed in a Cambridge crosswalk. I had the walk light but for some reason the pick up truck driver "did not see me" in the crosswalk. I was smack dab in the middle when I saw the grill and had to throw myself to one side. Luckily, aside from a huge bruise, I was ok. So if the pick up collided with me, how could that of been prevented or controlled at that very moment? It was an accident where I just lucked out.
Your thinking is flawed.
accident?!
By Saul
Wed, 05/31/2017 - 10:56am
What the hell kind of reasoning is that? You had made it halfway through the crosswalk and you admit the driver did not see you during any of that time.
If he had hit you, that would not have been an accident.
Why did the driver not see you? Was he texting? Was he looking down at the radio? Was he just totally oblivious to the world around him, and therefore failing at the key job of driving in the city?
Its a crash. Not an accident.
By spin_o_rama
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 2:05pm
It doesn't matter if someone intended to get in their car and kill someone, it matters that they killed someone with their car.
When the overwhelming majority of crashes on the road are caused by cars and poor road design, how can one ignorantly say "gee, we just don't know."
It is an accident.
By whyaduck
Wed, 05/31/2017 - 10:26am
And, yes, it does. There is a HUGH difference between someone getting in their car and saying "Gee, let me kill someone today" and someone who is driving and is involved in an accident where someone is killed.
I know this is the current "in" verbiage with many of the cycle zealots but please stop. It is just semantic bullsh*t.
this is not a cycle conversation and this was not an accident.
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 05/31/2017 - 5:31pm
It is about responsibility. A driver's license gives a person to drive a car in exchange for taking responsibility for driving lawfully. The drive is responsible for making sure that an non-signaled crosswalk is free of pedestrians before they enter the crosswalk. If the view is blocked then you have to stop. What exactly is the improbable scenario where a driver was paying attention and didn't see and stop for a pedestrian? If the driver fulfilling their responsibility to be vigilant then it cannot be an accident.
Boston is a CITY. Cars should
By JJ3
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 11:28am
Boston is a CITY. Cars should always be prepared for someone to "jump out" (which I doubt happened here) and should always be going slow enough so as to minimize the damage of a potential collision. No excuse.
Agreed.
By Lee
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 2:03pm
You hit someone. You were going too fast. You are responsible.
Tremont St through the South
By cden4
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 12:24pm
Tremont St through the South End is a prime candidate for a road diet. It's the single biggest and easiest thing the City could do to make it safer for EVERYONE. Make it 3 lanes instead of 4: one lane in each direction with alternating left turn lanes and/or striped median for pedestrians, along with a bike lane in each direction. Left turns would be easier, pulling out of side streets would be much easier, pedestrians wouldn't have a "double" threat scenario to deal with when crossing, and bikes would have a safer place to ride. Win, win, win, win.
It took 4 deaths in CT to change a road, what will it take here?
By fietsdavid
Tue, 05/30/2017 - 6:15pm
East Hartford CT is narrowing one of it's busiest streets from 4 lanes to 2 lanes with bike lanes after 4 deaths and 164 crashes in the past 3-4 years. Four lane roads have no business existing in urban environments! Lets do the same on Tremont St.
http://burnsideave.com/
http://www.easthartfordct.gov/public-works/pages/%...
Want to see something funny
By Waquiot
Wed, 05/31/2017 - 12:13pm
Go to your first link and look at the EHPD Bike Lane Informational Guide. Do you know where the photograph on the cover was taken?
The grass is always greener, I suppose.
Is there an update??
By JenPen
Wed, 06/07/2017 - 2:30pm
Is there an update on this story? I haven't been able to find anything on the victim or driver yet...
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