ICE says screw Sanctuary Cities; conducts raids here

He didn't call Jeff Sessions a name, he quoted him.

The prosecution of marijuana and heroin use started in the Nixon administration for political purposes. Hippies and people of color were tricky dick's political enemies. For all his war mongering and criminalizing health issues for politics, he founded the EPA and Title IX.

Jeff Sessions lied under oath during his senate confirmation hearings three times, to Sen Franken, to Senator Leahy in writing and in his filing. He has acknowledged it by amending his testimony. He has not been prosecuted for perjury.

Sen Warren was reading Coretta Scott King's Letter to the govt about Jeff Sessions nomination for US attorney when she was shutdown by Mitch McConnell for violating senate rules. No free speech for the senator from Massachusetts on the question of Jeff Sessions suitability for the position of Attorney General and no debate on the merit of the ideas in Coretta Scott King's letter. But Milo spoke this week in Berkeley.

When you defy a supreme court order to integrate schools and call that 'states rights', it's not the same as telling the federal government you wont illegally detain immigrants for them-- detainer request-- or do their job for them-- ask about immigration status.

Congress has failed to do it's job. The senate passed an immigration reform bill, the house wouldn't give it a vote. Most Americans and lawmakers think the system is broken. The far right thinks brown people threaten the existence of white people. The Trump admin takes their queues from the far right freaks at heritage, freedom caucus, Rep. Steve King and on immigration, Donald Trump. By the way Mar-a-Lago petitioned the govt for more foriegn workers on HB-1 visas.

I looked up the government stats a while ago and there were more deportations under Obama's administration than Bush (43) and they had a stated focus on removing violent/dangerous criminals. If you listened to the right wing you'd think that the Obama administration was giving all of the illegals a welcome basket with a cell phone, housing voucher, and a job when they crossed the border.

If you want to talk about Sessions possibly having an ulterior motive for appreciating ICE raids you could add a comment without acting like a dick. On the other hand the comment I was replying to was specific about the "police" that Sessions controls and they are not ICE.

You make it obvious that you don't have a lot of friends.

In Baltimore, a citizen of El Salvador who entered the U.S. illegally on a fraudulent passport, and was previously charged with attempted murder/conspiracy to commit murder and convicted of first degree assault. She was previously released from local custody before ICE could assume custody.

In Boston, a citizen of India who entered the U.S. illegally and who was convicted of indecent assault/battery on a person over 14 and was required to register as a sex offender.

In Denver, a citizen of Guatemala with lawful permanent legal status who was previously convicted of felony menacing, 6 DUIs, child abuse, assault and domestic violence harassment.

In Los Angeles, a citizen of Mexico and documented Colonia Chiques gang member who entered the United States illegally. At the time of his arrest, the subject rammed multiple law enforcement vehicles in an effort to evade arrest. After he was placed under arrest, a search of his person revealed a loaded handgun in his pocket. The subject was turned over to local authorities and charged with assault with a deadly weapon, probation in possession of firearm, carrying a concealed weapon and carrying a loaded firearm in public.

In New York, a citizen of Ecuador with lawful permanent resident status who was previously charged with sexual abuse of a minor and convicted of endangering the welfare of a child, and convicted of sexual abuse of a minor under 14. He was previously released from local custody before ICE could assume custody.

In Philadelphia, a citizen of the Dominican Republic, who entered the country illegally and who has previous convictions for possession of firearms. He was previously released from local custody before ICE could assume custody.

In San Francisco, a citizen of El Salvador who entered the country illegally and who has previous convictions for sex with a minor under 16. He was previously released from local custody before ICE could assume custody.

In San Jose, a citizen of Mexico who entered the U.S. on a visa and overstayed that visa for more than 10 years. He was previously convicted of felony possession and purchase of narcotics, possession of a controlled substance for sale, and felony child cruelty with the possibility of injury or death. He was previously released from local custody before ICE could assume custody.

In Seattle, a citizen of Mexico who entered the country illegally and who has previous convictions for DUI, reckless endangerment and negligent driving.

In Washington, D.C., a citizen of El Salvador who entered the country illegally and who has previous convictions for possession of an unregistered firearm and unlawful possession of ammunition.

When Trump first announced ICE deportations he said they'd deport 'the worst of the worst' Later he said ICE agents would take a 'gloves off' approach (more indiscriminate enforcement I presumed.)

When we started to see it in action in Mass, he was deporting people for showing up at meetings to get their green cards (they were married to American citizens) and at the homes of an Irish guy who runs a contracting business, and a man who works at MIT nights and runs a business during the day. These are people who we do not need to be kept safe from and who should be on a path to citizenship, and whose kids would be part of first generation Americans who achieve in service of themselves, their communities and our country.

Maybe you should look at the front page of the ICE website before you try to patronize me.

"U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforces federal laws governing border control, customs, trade and immigration to promote homeland security and public safety."

"The HSI (Homeland Security Investigations) directorate is responsible for investigating a wide range of domestic and international activities arising from the illegal movement of people and goods into, within and out of the United States."

Gee, it's almost like federal agencies can have some overlap in their duties. So yeah, "inspect" might not be the best word but it's not like they're not doing more than looking for illegal aliens and human trafficking operations.

Trump proposed making the line 2x as long by cutting new immigrants in half.

When you're looking for work to feed your family waiting in line isn't an option.

Capitalism makes some people very rich and others remain poor and risk their freedom to purse work across the border.

Your grandparents are probably old and white. The newer generation of immigrants is more educated and diverse and liberal.

I haven't seen or heard any of that happening. Also have you met them? Do you know their story?

No, the line is made by the government. You could have a system where there is no line. I don't think that'd be a good idea, but the line is purely artificial to the government processes. Also, the length of the line is again purely artificial to the processes. Review one application a year and the line could stretch to infinity.

"Expedited" doesn't mean they get to leave the line. It means they get in a different line. That line might be shorter. It might be longer. It's just not the general line.

While the government controls how many lines are open, don't kid yourself into thinking that our current system is beneficial to us in any way. It's a waste of time, resources, and energy in its current form. It's under-optimized and over-wrought. It hasn't been reviewed in decades. It has never even considered the challenges of globalization nor even the greatly increased mobility humanity has gained in recent years.

People are stopped and/or thrown out of line all the time due to the arbitrary nature of the interview process at consulates all across the world. Sometimes consulates stop accepting people in for some perceived geopolitical slight from that country's government.

And to think you're better than someone else just because you're already "inside the park" is to have failed to learn the lesson of the star-bellied sneetches.

Cause yeah the sensible thing to do is to have "Are you here legally?" be the first question on first dates. /sarc

The question was "how is keeping these people in the local community a good thing?".

Do you think Mr. Illegal being deported is a good thing just because Ms. Legal took a risk by not knowing every intimate detail of our immigration laws and just thought that marrying the man she loved would make him a citizen? Your answer amounts to "the local community is better off because she knew the risks when she took them". It's a non sequitur.

Unless you're saying that the scenario as I described it would never happen. That every person who falls in love with someone born in another country would check their green card status before marrying them or having a kid with them. Because even if you're right, those people are still in love. But now they have a fucked up situation where when the tourist visa runs out, Mr. Illegal has to go home first...and now he has to figure out a way back that will let him continue a life with his lover until they can decide whether to have kids and/or get married (because you prevented that from happening by making her prioritize his status over their love). They're not far enough along in their relationship to get a fiance visa and yet if he comes back on another tourism visa and they do decide to get married soon after, it can actually appear like visa fraud and screw up his ability to get a green card then too!

And if you look at my scenario and want to nitpick any of the timing or details, just realize that reordering the story a bit (maybe the visa runs out before the wedding instead of after, or he gets deported while the application for status change he submits is still pending, etc.) suddenly leads back to the same point of having him deported and at MOST he got the raw end of a bad charge from a bar fight because of our fucked up legal system. Deporting him didn't solve anything and only created more problems for our society...which was the whole point of the original question.

So if in this instance ice detained 50 violent offenders and nobody else you are good with it?